With the Start11 2.49.5 (eventual final release will be 2.50) beta release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.
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UI: 2.5
Start11Config.exe: 2.5.0.0
Stardock and Steam
NEW Adds experimental vertical taskbar support Windows 11 (23H2+ only)
NEW Centred taskbar buttons mode in Win11 now works on > 2 monitor setups
Fixed issue with dragging taskbar buttons to the left of the taskbar when centered
Fix for DisplayFusion issue
Tweaks for changing the size of taskbar icons etc
Fixed an issue with Microsoft Loop and a resource leak
Fix for position of jumplist on mixed vertical and nonvertical setups
Fix for config having a nonfunctional indicator on the left causing an odd blank box
Fixed 1 en-us localization issue
Detection of 23H2 as we were detecting beta channel only
Added UI options for icon size, button width, and height to advanced taskbar settings. Only properly apply when not using OS autohide
Fixed issue with Win+X menu going away when you mouseover a vertical taskbar
Resolved issue with touch long press to get a right click not working on vertical taskbars for items
Resolved flicker on custom start button when mouseover on a vertical taskbar
Removed excess slider on advanced taskbar settings
Fixed issue with Win+X menu appearing in the wrong location when taskbar is on the right depending on the screen scaling factor
Resolved issue with on-top secondary taskbars causing a hang issue.
Fixes for Directory Opus taskbar docked bars
Added a registry key to make S11 on Win10 using center mode delay before updating : S11_DelayCentreUpdateWin10value in msRegistry location for values:HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8
Removed excess All apps item on Win10 all apps list
Tweaked color of the taskbar when using color on the taskbar and also resolved accent color choice being wrong sometimes on the taskbar.
Fixed Win10 style on vertical taskbars not correctly painting buttons for > 1 window open when in combine mode.
Fixes issue with top aligned taskbar getting misaligned horizontally
Fixes issue with combined mode taskbar buttons not performing correct action on click when having a monitor in negative coordinates and also not working for vertical taskbars on the left
Fix for having a monitor with negative coordinates stopping combine mode window switch popup always showing when clicking on the taskbar. Note that newer insider versions of Windows no longer support this and will switch between windows on click rather than show the popup. This may be a bug in insiders and fix itself in the future
Fix for juddering jumplist when on top and using a rounded taskbar.
Fix for win+X menu when using on top and autohide having the submenu misaligned when not reserving one pixel for the taskbar.
Fixed overflow taskbar system tray icons not showing correctly when not using enhanced taskbar but with a top of screen taskbar.
Fix for top taskbar thumbs on insider
Rounded taskbar settings no longer impact taskbar items on vertical taskbars
Fix for thumbs on Windows Insider with autohide left aligned taskbar
Fix for blank taskbar after rebooting or log off \ on
Further login tweaks for vertical taskbars
Fix for >2 monitor taskbar center mode
Clock text on the vertical taskbars is made less small when wider
Fixes some secondary monitor issues with autohide, vertical and screen workspace
Fixes a case of no settings showing in search
Removes - File explorer from taskbar buttons
Resolved issue with clicking on pinned taskbar items in combined mode causing a new instance of the app to launch sometimes
Resolved an issue found when fixing that to do with clicking doing nothing on newer OS builds sometimes if the thumbs window was open.
Resolved thumbs placement issue with beta channel update
Resolved jumplist not showing when taskbar is on top on secondary displays and now with enhanced taskbar off on primary too
Removed hyphen from ‘Task Manager’ in the supported languages.
While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.
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Thanks for the update. Hope that resolves the issues I posted in the other thread.
Just run the installer over the old one?
Thats fine, yes, just to be sure to reboot as that is all-important post-install.
Sean DrohanStardock Product Lifecycle Manager
It still takes 2-3 seconds for the taskbar to reposition from the bottom to the right side of the screen, but all icons immediately loaded and ready, so that's a BIG improvement to me.
After I rebooted I first logged in on my admin account, log out and log in my daily user account. Last version gave an empty taskbar and unresponsiveness when I switched users, but that has now also gone
I will later check to maybe reproduce the problem of rebooting and not immediately logging in but later, which also triggered the empty taskbar in the last version.
Unfortunately the empty taskbar and unresponsive system persists when not immediately logging in after a reboot.
The system tray icons and their respective programs took my firewall control 2 minutes to load, Sandboxie 3 minutes and my VPN 3,5 minutes
Update Jan. 3: Same happens when pc is powered up and not logging in immediately.
..... none of which happens if I sign out, leave the os on the lock/login screen and log back in an hour a so later.
< Windows 11 Pro 24H2 build 26100.1742 >
This beta resolves the issue I saw about the hidden icon menu not displaying with a top-aligned, non-enhanced taskbar. Thanks for the fix!
However, the issue I saw in the Win+X menu where the mouse cursor doesn't track with selections, also with a top-aligned, non-enhanced taskbar, is still there.
Have you been able to check why I see no thumbnails at my vertical taskbar? Nothing resolved with the latest beta.
My Windows version is 23H2, 22631.4602.
Why something that it working for others but not you is not enough to work with. While you may have detailed it in another thread, please try to detail the steps to recreate your issue, screenshots \ video are always welcome.
It would also be prudent to export \ upload your S11 settings to a cloud drive service of your choice and post a shared link to it in a reply.
Hello there, just installed new beta (uninstall previous - reboor - install - reboot) and here is the situaion for the 2 bugs I reported in previous thread:
TREMBLING RIGHT-CLICK MENUS ON TASKBAR ICONS:
Still present if this option is active:
MISALIGNED CHILD MENU ON START BUTTON:
Solved!
Thanks as usuale for your support!
Baio
Why something that it working for others but not you is not enough to work with. While you may have detailed it in another thread, please try to detail the steps to recreate your issue, screenshots \ video are always welcome.It would also be prudent to export \ upload your S11 settings to a cloud drive service of your choice and post a shared link to it in a reply.Sean DrohanStardock Product Lifecycle Manager
After I had posted the issue the first time, there was a 2nd user who confirmed the same problem. I am not a passionate supporter of vertical taskbar, I wanted to see if it can improve my workflow, but under the current condition it does not. I will give it a try with a backup laptop of mine and start progressively adding my settings. If I can reproduce it, I will send a detailed report, but currently I don't have much time.
Thanks again for the great work and happy new year.
Thank you for the effort and update.
Hi m-eel. I haven't been able to reproduce this, though there may be some differences. (For clarity: I tried your steps with both a vertical Left Aligned, and a vertical Right Aligned taskbar)
Please try the following to see if this helps:
Thank you,
Adam McGuinnessStardock Customer Support Specialist
Thanks Adam, I will try that a little later.
Thanks for all the help and follow ups, Adam & Sean
Post removed. Violation of Stardock TOS.
Jan Oscar, moderator
Hi Adam/Sean,
I did as instructed, but unfortunately.....
I uninstalled, did not keep settings, reinstalled, set my preferences (did not import old settings) and restarted. First I immediately logged in to see if Start11 had kept all settings, and then I restarted and logged in after 20 minutes.Like I said: unfortunately I then still get the empty taskbar and unresponsive system (nothing happens when right-clicking or ctr-alt-del). Start11 menu is still functioning and enabling me to sign out and in again, after which all is well.
Randomly no start menu icon on secondary monitors and Windows Explorer always trying to open the same instance and other problems
Hi. Windows 11 24H2 26100.2605, Start112.49.3 video Working with 3 monitors
The start menu icon shows in only 1 of my 2 secondary monitors and most of the times even in none, the option to hide it in secondary monitors is disabled and I already tried to enable it and then disable, it keeps occuring. I have the centered option selected, if I select the option to align to center this doesn't occur.
Windows Explorer always tries to open the same instance even if it's in other monitor and even if I shift click (as seen in video); I disconnected all my monitors and tried to shift click and the same happens, it won't open a new instance.
I was able to change the taskbar size but I had that option disabled, after enabling and disabling it, I'm not able to change it (that's the expected behavior) right now, hope this doesn't change on reboot.
I have the option to show my pinned icons in all task bars but they don't show up when booting Windows, I have to go and click in the task bar for them to appear in other monitors.
Thanks!
P.S.:
I just found out that if I open a Windows Explorer Windows, open another folder that isn't the starting one, then shift click works once, meaning: if the starting folder is open in any monitor, shift click won't work. Even then when it works, it weirdly always loads in the same monitor and the same position and size, it doesn't remember its last position, size and monitor.
Reporting 5 different problems with the beta (not only the one with the shift click problem, please don't delete)
Windows 11 24H2 26100.2605, Start112.49.3 video Working with 3 monitors
Installed Groupy, Fences and Start11 v2
1. Search is not centered video
2. I was able to change the taskbar size but I had that option disabled, after enabling and disabling it, I'm not able to change it (that's the expected behavior) right now, hope this doesn't change on reboot.
3. I have the option to show my pinned icons in all task bars but they don't show up when booting Windows, I have to go and click somewhere for them to appear in other monitors.
4. The start menu icon shows in only 1 of my 2 secondary monitors and most of the times even in none, the option to hide it in secondary monitors is disabled and I already tried to enable it and then disable, it keeps occuring. I have the centered option selected, if I select the option to align to center this doesn't occur.
5. Windows Explorer always tries to open the same instance even if it's in other monitor and even if I shift click (as seen in video); I disconnected all my monitors and tried to shift click and the same happens, it won't open a new instance. video
I found out that if I open a Windows Explorer Windows, open another folder that isn't the starting one, then shift click works once, meaning: if the starting folder is open in any monitor, shift click won't work. Even then when it works, it weirdly always loads in the same monitor and the same position and size, it doesn't remember its last position, size and monitor.
I also still am not getting preview thumbnails when the taskbar is left-aligned.
Video showing this and also how the start button disappears for some reason
Quick question for you.
If you set the taskbar to the top or bottom do you get the correct thumbnails then?
Yes, when set to top or bottom aligned I get the expected thumbnails.
Is it possible to have systray icons in multiple columns if the (vertical) taskbar is wide enough? That's possible on Windows 10 and is quite useful.Also the clock's font is a little too small with the vertical toolbar (4K display with 150% scale).And it doesn't auto-update and says it's up to date when manually checking in the About menu, when it's not. Didn't realize there was a newer version until I went in my account and manually downloaded and installed it...
Hello,
Thank you.Basj,Stardock Community Assistant.
Hi, quick question about the monitor layout above:Monitor 1 is the laptop own screen physically situated per the layout aboveMonitors 2 & 3 are a Samsung C49RG9x 49" monitor configured as 2 x 2560 x 1440 monitors (Samsung "PBP" - "Picture by Picture" mode).Monitor 2 is configured as the main display with Start112.49.3 configured as a vertical taskbar on this monitor only.
When accessing (right clicking) the taskbar tray icons (bottom left of monitor 2) is there a way to bias the tray icon dialog to appear in monitor 2 only?Currently they appear in monitor 1 where the borders of monitors 1 & 2 overlap.
I guess a workaround is to position monitor 1 to be below monitor 2 in display settings but then the mouse pointer tracking can get confusing...
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