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Windows 10 Pro 19045.2075; using the Start11 Windows 10 Style menu
I installed the Start 11 ver. 1.26 beta over 1.25 Stable today. After the reboot, half of my Start Menu icons were missing and I was unable to re-pin them from the All Apps section of the start menu. I had created a Restore Point before the install, and after restoring to the previous state before the 1.26 install, the same Start Menu icons were still missing, but I now was able to re-pin them.
I will try to figure out what happened when I have more time to try the install again and update this thread.
pelaird
Same issue here! The icons came back when I reinstalled 1.25
Hello,
The taskbar thumbnail preview does not hide when minimizing the window
You can see here: Taskbar thumbnail preview does not hide when minimizing window - YouTube
And can you add an option to disable the "Taskbar Thumbnails Preview"?
Information about my Windows:
Edition Windows 11 Home Single Language
Version 21H2
Installed on 9/23/2022
OS build 22000.1042
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.1042.0
Which icons in particular went missing?
So the icons all came back without any action from you having reinstalled 1.25?
Do you know which icons were missing?
Are you able to export the contents of HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\GroupContents if you were using a Win10 style menu or HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\GroupContents11 if you were using a Win11 style menu and host the file somewhere and send me a private message with a link to it please along with information on which ones went missing.
Many thanks.
Okay. The second time I attempted to install 1.26, not as many icons were missing, some of the icons that were missing the first time were not missing on the second attempt. I was still unable to re-pin any icons from the All Apps section of the start menu. Before I attempted to try again to install 1.26 I made sure the Windows 10 Start Menu was identical to the Start 11 ver. 1.25 menu.
I exported the Registry location you suggested before the update and then tried to install it after the 1.26 Install. I didn't help. I had to re-install 1.25 again because I couldn't pin anything.
Here are before and after screenshots of the Start 11 Start menu page 1.
Here are before and after screenshots of the Start 11 Start menu page 2.
I sent the before and after Registry entries you asked for by private message. Upon inspection, they appear to be identical. I believe that Start11 thinks the missing icons are still pinned and that is why they cannot be re-pinned. Something in the new code seems to be preventing them from being displayed properly even though Start11 registers them as being pinned.
Why in the world can I still not drag a program from the Start11 menu and drop to my desktop? Am I missing something? I have to disable Start11, drag/drop through the Windows 11 menu, then reenable Start11. Not really ideal.
In Windows 10, if we open 2 Chrome application, we can right click to taskbar icon and select to close one by one.
Can you support this for Start11 (at this time, only option “close all” when right click)
Thank you.
I installed Beta 1.26 on my Windows 11x64 Pro (21H2 (OS Build 22000.1042) system. Start11 is set to Windows 10 style menu. About 20% of my icons were missing and could not be re-pinned. I tried re-installing 1.25 but the icons were still missing. I had to restore my system using Casper 11 backup.
The attached pic shows my Start11 menu as it should be (Windows 10 style).
i don't expect support i saw the message, as i'm on the win11 insider beta, but i got the same issue that everybody else, more than half of the icons disappeared...
the biggest issue is the inability to ping app again, i see no other choice to go back to 1.25, but just read that a restauration is better
In your video, you never move your cursor off the taskbar icon. If I had to guess, this is why the thumbnail does not minimize. I tested this on my machine and indeed if I leave the cursor over the taskbar icon, the thumbnail does not minimize. Once I move the cursor away, the thumbnail minimizes.
I installed Beta 1.26 on my Windows 11x64 Pro (21H2 (OS Build 22000.1042) system. Start11 is set to Windows 10 style menu. About 20% of my icons were missing and could not be re-pinned. I tried re-installing 1.25 but the icons were still missing. I had to restore my system using Casper 11 backup. The attached pic shows my Start11 menu as it should be (Windows 10 style).
Thanks to some customers sending over the information requested I am pleased to say we have identified the problem and hope to put out a 1.27 update later today which will ensure items do not go missing.
Please note that if you have altered your pinned items you will not find them restored automatically but if you have not changed anything then I believe they will reappear once the update is installed.
For now it is best to avoid installing 1.26 in case you have applications pinned which experienced this issue (not all apps do, only a specific class of apps)
This thread was updated with a fix for the pinning issues reported in 1.26. The build was updated to 1.27 and is available via either account link:
http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval
And in Object Desktop Manager.
Thanks for the quick feedback on this.
Sean DrohanStardock Product Lifecycle Manager
Thanks for the quick fix! I am able to pin the icons properly again.
Fixed!!!! Thank you for your quick attention to this issue.
Thanks!
I tested on a real machine installed with Windows 10 (no install Start10 or Start11) and The taskbar thumbnail preview is hidden when minimizing the window.
Hi,
But now you are talking the difference between Windows 10 and Windows11.
Your first post you said Windows 11, and like pelaird said, the preview stays longer than it does on Windows 10. Yes on Windows 10 it does go away immediately, you shouldn't really expect everything in two different version of the OS to work the same way in each
Paul ScrogginsAssociate Technical Support Analyst
Hi,But now you are talking the difference between Windows 10 and Windows11. Your first post you said Windows 11, and like pelaird said, the preview stays longer than it does on Windows 10. Yes on Windows 10 it does go away immediately, you shouldn't really expect everything in two different version of the OS to work the same way in eachPaul ScrogginsAssociate Technical Support Analyst
Hello Paul,
I tested on Windows 11 and you can see the difference when installing Start11 and not installing Start11:
Windows 11 not install Start11: Windows 11 (not install Start11) hide preview when minimized window - YouTube
Windows 11 with install Start11: Taskbar thumbnail preview does not hide when minimizing window - YouTube
I am not getting the same results as you on Win11 with Start11
https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2022-09-23_11-42-45tpscroggins.mp4
As you see there is a delay, it's not the instant disappearing that it does on Win10
Same version of Windows as you, running S11 1.27
Do you/ have you ever had a similar product to Start11 installed on that computer?
I am not getting the same results as you on Win11 with Start11https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2022-09-23_11-42-45tpscroggins.mp4As you see there is a delay, it's not the instant disappearing that it does on Win10Same version of Windows as you, running S11 1.27Do you/ have you ever had a similar product to Start11 installed on that computer?
I think the problem happens when we open Settings.
You can see here: Bugs - YouTube
when in "combine always" advanced taskbar mode, no progressbar indicator is shown under icons when downloading or file copying or any other progress related, actually showing the icon of the app out of focus as if the app is closed
when in "combine sometimes" or "never combine" advanced taskbar mode, when launching a edge web app, the icon on the taskbar disappears and reappear after a page refresh in the ewa
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