There were hints that these were going to be in a DLC (since canceled), and now their pics are on the Intrigue spash screen. Could there be good news coming? (well it might be bad news for edible aliens ... )
I would love to see them added too. I was looking forward to that dlc.
Canned like the so called minor race mechanic update.
They are in the splash screen. This gives me hope. Also bumping the post so others can chime in.
I’d love to see more DLC like that added. But we take a lot of negative reviews of the game for merely having DLC so we’ve canceled most of the DLC projects we had.
We are focusing on yearly expansions rather than periodic DLCs.
I truly wish that were not the case. I have found most of your DLCs worthwhile. Is there any chance of the aforementioned races making an appearance, perhaps in next year's update?
It's unfortunate to hear that the work you guys put into the game isn't appreciated. I think the problem is that for the rest of us you've created such an addictive game that we forget to thank you for your efforts!
i'm fan of your dlc !!!
give us some black-market DLC, pretend the Korath made you do it. I'll pay an arm and a leg (someone elses arm and leg, I'm not stupid)
Come on Frogboy, I love you but you can't listen these loud mouthed curmudgeons who represent a mere vocal minority. I see these types all the time in every game community. I know, I know, Steam reviews, Steam's weird rating system, yadda yadda yadda, I understand where you are coming from. But your fans are the ones that will actually buy this. Besides, do you want Gal Civ III to go down in history as being less than what it could be just because of some jerks? These people will forget their complaints the day, but your fans will always cherish having this content. Besides, the Drath are my favorite civ,, we need them badly. Also, just from a business perspective, I think it makes sense to have periodic updates to give players another reason to start up a game. Look at some of your competitors in the strategy game sphere, Paradox has the best DLC model I have seen, with frequent DLC releases, both big and small, along with some generous free updates to the base game, subsidized by the DLC model. Stellaris has in particular has benefited from multiple smaller DLCs between their major expansion releases. Civ VI has also had a lot of DLC civs before they had Rise and Fall, To a certain extent, Gal Civ may have had more of a curmudgeeon issue than these aforementioned games, but if so, it was probably tied to a general sense of curmudgeonry regarding the game rather than necessarily DLC in particular (DLC may have just been a convenient topic to latch on to). I think there has been a sea change in perception on places like Reddit after Crusade (and Intrigue has really put it over the top).I think the community in general is really happy and positive right now, which is great to see of course.
OK, all of that said, can anyone link me to this splash screen? I tried searching for it and can't find it. I can't believe I haven't seen this yet!
GalCiv's somewhat tumultuous design history really hurt it overall in terms of player opinions and reviews. Brad's making the right call avoiding small DLC right now. If we had a time machine? Sure, combine like three of the DLC into a single pack or two and maybe that would have gone over better and people would be happier about smaller DLC, but we can't.
Best reason to release an upgraded version of GalCiv with all the DLC and expansions would be to call it "GCIV" and reset the Reviews on Steam.
I'd personally love some more DLC since half the people complaining about the DLC are I can imagine people without a job or 14 year olds without one, albeit not their fault but still. So please do give us some more DLC like 2-3 races or 4 in a DLC since that would be quite fun. Paradox has one of the best DLC models in the Industry so I can imagine even the people who won't buy the DLC will at least get a nice patch to add some free content into the game.
I love DLCs and bought every in that second it came out.
I hate the possibility that lot of short term player are able to change the dlc policy. Those player you can find in every forumof every game with dlcs and they write ever and ever bad reviews for all those game with dlcs....
The fans and already the round about 900 player which play the game ever and ever are mostly the player which buy thedlcs and they will also do it in the future i think so
So i'am still hopefully
The Drath old ship-style is available through one of the DLC packs. There are also a few examples of this race that other players have created up on Steam. So what's left, just the special abilities, right?
I think a fairly easy to mod/implement special ability would be privateers. The mechanic is already in the game for Commander upgrades. What if the Drath had the ability to change any ship to a privateer ship? That fits into their shady characteristic and adds a new element to the game.
I'm no modder, just spit-balling here....
It makes me sad that the Gal Civ devs seem to universally consider their DLCs to be a "mistake". The vast majority of the Gal Civ community enjoy them and are happy to have them. We certainly don't consider them a mistake, and hope that our opinions count as well.
Define and validate "vast".
Define who is and who is not part of the "community".
These are impossible to validate or verify, its very well-meaning hyperbole.
Brad is making the best possible business decision he can, and he has more access to the actual information required to make these decisions. If anyone could really quantify the popularity (or not) of a given DLC, its him. A lot of the sentiment here, I share, but we should all be careful not to make assumptions. Forum goers are a incredibly TINY percent of the total consumers.
The reviews have spoken, if the "vast majority" love the DLC, unfortunately the "vast majority" are also irrelevant, because they have not written reviews or so overwhelmingly bought additional DLC to convince Brad its worth pursuing over the negative reviews.
Personally, I have no problem with the DLC or the expansion model both have pros and cons... but I don't think rose-colored glasses help either... the expansion model of Crusade and then Intrigue have been far better for the game's reviews to date and apparently that's VERY important to Brad... he's a pretty smart guy, so I'm going bet on him.
Griping about his perfectly logical and reason-based decision strikes me as ... well... nothing good.
Hi Frogboy, if you are focusing on yearly expansions, I assume the next one is for spring 2019. My vote is for a focus on War/Fleet battles/Battle Viewer/Ship Roles Expansion. I know you have thrown around the idea of letting players control ships in combat and for me that is my biggest request. Perhaps something like Sword of the Stars combat style with your own take on the system. Wanted to get the vote in early since I assume it is a long process to plan and develop yearly expansions.
While I suspect the answer to having any tactical battles will be a "no X infinity", a review of the combat mechanics, the roles, and such, is desperately needed!
I don't know how many since first-Windows Gal Civ folks like me are still around, but I've bought almost all the GC3 DLC. And I avoid Steam whenever I can on account of the noxious gases emitted by the mobs.
The best thing about the GC series is that the devs, even when experiencing a moment of "somewhat tumultuous design history," are engaged directly with people on these boards. Brad et al can be quite tenacious when sticking to design choices, but they also have regularly shown the ability to move in a new direction after enough fruitful discussions with us peanut gallery folks.
Even adding a "Retreat" button would be good. Saving a percentage of the faster ships seems plausible in space combat.
Or pre-combat, add a 3rd option Quick Battle, View Battle or Run Away (with consequences of course).
You could tie the chance for the fleet to retreat unscathed to its overall sensor power. Detecting the enemy at far enough range to make fleeing viable.
If you do what Microsoft did with Halo 3 and have a different studio make your DLC, perhaps you could have the reviews separate on Steam. Of course the company would be run by someone like you with a contract from stardock inc.
I wouldn't necessarily put such a strong bias on reviews. While they are important of course, there is a certain negativity bias when it comes to user reviews. If someone is happy with the product, they are more likely to spend their time enjoying it rather than seeking out an avenue to express their opinion. I would look at overall sales as a factor as well, which I believe Brad has mentioned in one or more of his posts that the sales for these DLCs were strong. I think other companies that have a similar market have made a DLC model work extremely successfully, even when the occasional item gets weaker reviews (e.g EU IV's expansion Mare Nostrum has a terrible user rating, as does some of their small $2.50 unit packs and such but subsequent DLC did not seem to suffer for it). FWIW, I have tried to leave a bunch of positive reviews for various Gal Civ items, per Brad's request.
Of course, I am not really in any position to argue the finer points of Brad's strategy since the last two expansions have been amazing and extremely well-received. So perhaps he is on to something here. But, regardless of what the DLC policy is, I just hope we get the Drath again someday.
I really think the reviews over all would much better if there are less posts in every forum ( there, steam, anywhere) which discripe bugs or problem in the game which should have fixed for month or years.
There things the devs are not able to fix or they want not to fix it.
The best example is the galaxy creator. Since crusade it don't work anymore. No matter what settings you choose you got against zero habitable planets or a mass. You get never that you choose in the options...
The forums are full of posts in this reference but nothing happens since month! It also looks like the devs are not really interested in those problem. Because the feedback in fact doesn't exist For many player that's very disappointed and that was only one example. I think there are much players there stop playing because of this or even don't begin playing.
With more interesting and fixes in this direction the reputation of the game would get a big push in my opinion...
At the moment it feels like as a fan you are alone with this and there is no interest and no change that this will ever change!
So in this reference it isn't a wonder that the reputation still not so good..
I would love to see the Kortah and Drath in the main game as official races. Despite the incredible amount of customisation that GC3 allows I do like jumping into the world created by Stardock.
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