I'm playing as the terrans, and there's this bizarre spur of Altarian influence that shoots right at my planet without any starbase that's obviously responsible for it. The planet itself has a consulate, and the starbase two tiles from it has two influence upgrades. What could conceivably be on the Altarian planet that has such OP influence at such distance? And why didn't they take over the intervening tiles first?
the ideology tree has a lot of influence modifying things
Hey 5myosin,
I had exactly the same mysterious experience. I posted this below yesterday.
Hi all,
With the release of the new beta I've decided to take the plunge and get to grips with this game.
Now, I started a game and well.. rage quit
I was playing on beginner on a small map and I had built 2 x cultural starbases, various consulates with the stacking bonus for adjacency in a single system. My borders were slowly pushing back the borders of the only AI I was playing with when suddenly, in the middle of my territory, a "strip" of AI influence appeared. This strip then proceeded to cause one of my primary worlds (filled with consulates) to become annexed.
The result was.. messy. The influence that system was providing essentially wiped out my entire territory. I even attempted to build another cultural starbase to prevent what I knew was coming...
I thought I was safe from this as my borders were pushing the AI's back...
Any ideas as to what on earth happened?
It makes no sense to me at all.
I haven't had time to actually play but have some soaks to see how much my machine can do before I get the infinite wait. The Altarians seem to be way overpowered in influence, haven't looked into why yet but they seem to have just ridiculous influence bonuses.
neotrout seems to have had the exact same issue.
I don't think that this is a question (necessarily) of excessive influence built up, since the movement of the borders is so weird. If the altarians just had OP influence then I'd expect to have lost all the territory north of my soon-to-be Altarian planet as well. There's no space station that could account for the pattern that neotrout and I are seeing. Seriously-- look at the link for the screenshot I posted and tell me if that makes sense to you.
I have planets swamped with influence buildings getting taken over. I'm Krynn and losing to Yor. I even have one of my planets influencing a Yor planet but it is getting influenced back by the Yor planet. That seems a bit stupid.
nearly every post ive read seems to mention the same thing (i have tons of influnce buildings/buffs on this planet) i wonder if there is something wrong with the influence buildings.
I doubt it's the influence buildings themselves-- it's only natural for the players to try to build those when they realize their colony is under threat.
The issue must have to do with the calculation of influence over the intervening tiles.
I've experienced the same thing with current game I'm playing. The influence borders are not reacting as they should. Seeing as that game now crashes out everytime I start it, I'm going to go with this beta being more buggy than the last.
I managed to do a reversal against the AI. For 2 of my planets that I had near the AIs, I made them influence worlds from the very first moment my colony ships landed on them. I eventually culture flipped every world that 2 civilizations had, one of which were the Krynn (which are supposed to have good influence). I didn't get much wonky culturing borders going on. I did go out of my way to build as much influence planet improvements as I could, and made sure to research the required techs to upgrade them, so you might want to keep that in mind.
If anyone can supply a save of these odd influence issues I would love the check them out. The screenshots are great, but we want to dig into the influence numbers on those situations and see what is happening.
Thanks!
If you have save files please send them to support via the link below.
Link to forums for explanation:
https://forums.galciv3.com/452855/page/1/
Link to support tool:
http://sd.stardock.com/Support/supportToolTest/SDSupportTool.exe
I posted a save with a ticket: WXN-147-98064.
The save from the game in my posted screenshot:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cti8mozjrgioqbh/bs.GC3Sav?dl=0
See ticket #GCM-683-94886
I submitted a ticket too. Here is an image of the issue in my game.
The weird thing is that my borders were pushing the AI's back. It may be that I just suck but I'd love an explanation
My message back from the devs suggested that the immunity to assimilation that Malevolent Ideologies have is not working correctly. Clearly the calculation of influence effects is broken, they are on it but my message said they have no ETA for a fix.
As long as they fix it before release that's fine by me
The AI influence is skipping over the borders, and then changing influence behind enemy lines. This should not be the way it is. I should push back your borders, and nothing else. Also, there should not be a way to build a more than a few influence structures on planet. Just like a space station would be limited. Influence is very powerful, and I for one do not like what is happening in my game as well. I lost a very good planet that is 8 hexes away from the boarders. This is a bug that will really mess up gameplay.
I think this is happening when you culturally or physically conquer planets from another player, either leaving behind residual culture or cultural borders are not being reset properly within a Zone of Control.
Yep the influence is quite weird in this version.
Played Altarians.... rushed on benelovelent and Culture even Drengi was better than me
It feels like there needs to be DECAY of culture away from your home-world, and getting "boosts" as you hit planets and Star Bases. Like I said before, culture is something that happens civilization wide, and there are plenty of boosts to it. There Is no need to allow more than one main cultural building on a planet and 2 for space stations. This should also prevent AI spamming of those buildings as well.
I tried to submit a ticket but kept getting errors about cross-site forgery?
You are getting this at the support site? https://esupport.stardock.com/index.php?/Tickets/Submit
Alternatively, you can email support@stardock.com.
Yes I was at the support site. I'll do an email later on.
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