I am building a computer, any suggestions for the best computer for the price using an AMD processor??
This is what I've come up with to this point
AMD 4.0 Ghz 8 core processor
Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB
16 GB Memory,
3TB HD
Now mind you you can jump up on processor, for $50 more, give or take to 4.2 Ghz, 7870 video card for $20 more, 32 GB memory is $250 more, storage for cost is about the same per TB up to that point.?
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
Best guide I've seen for PC builders. Just FYI in case you want some more resources for research.
Honestly Seilore, you're best off using a low-end Intel and not an AMD
Give me a performance per cost reason on why I would want Intel over AMD, the FX8320 is $100 less compaired to the i5-4670 and the AMD FX8320 is rated faster?
What is your price range, firstly? Because Intel chips this year really trounced AMD
EDIT; Intel is traditionally 'better' but less cost-efficient, while AMD is 'worse' but more efficient. I can see what you mean about $/Performance, but Intel is better if you can afford one of the better i5's
per http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
AMD FX 8350 8 core 4 Ghz benchmark 9075 I can get for $185
versus any Intel i7 or i5 with comparible benchmarks
Intel i7-3820 4 core 3.6 Ghz benchmark 9005 I can get for $290
again it's cost versus performance, I only have about $1300-$1400 for the system before monitor/s
that needs to include things like optical drive blu-ray writer
/HD which prefer 3 TB +
prefer 16 GB memory
speakers/keyboard/mouse
So again I don't see the advantage to Intel, AMD looks better here with a better benchmark rating and quite a bit lower cost...
What about failure rate? Are there any comparisons on that?
I'm really sorry, but I'm not so sure on how to respond correctly given that English isn't my first language, but here goes regardless;
If you're building a gaming computer, what are you doing with so much Random Access Memory and eight cores? Games today aren't even capable of using them effectively, barring a select few outliers; you future proofing? Graphic/video design? Four cores and dual 4GB RAM sticks should suffice for almost everything you can play today, unless as I mentioned you're doing more intensive things like making High definition videos and stuffs.
To tell you the truth, I just put an Intel i5-3570K clocked to 4.5 GHz in and it beasts everything. It's a bit expensive, but it's a really solid, very good chip that can handle anything a game can throw at it. It never overheats, it meshes well with a variety of good motherboards and the like. It also has a really good built in graphics package.
I was contemplating going to Haswell, but this is a really good chip regardless.
Right now it's $230, but on black friday and boxing day it should be really cheap.
This is just my personal recommendation based on my own experience with computers, which goes back to the late 90's, so put as much or as little stock in it as you like. Best of luck making your computer :3
I concur and agree with Paragon renegade. Intel Chips continue to beat AMD chips for gaming. See the recent review over at Toms Hardware or PC magazine.
I too have a I5 3570K. I also have my Overclocked to 4.2 and it is outstanding. It remains the best gamers chip (for price/performance) as of this month in PC magazine.
Post a link to an article, I couldn't find any published failure rate from a credible source, in fact several places even say that most failures are user initiated broken pins ect...
This computer I'm building I'm hoping to last for several years and be able to be a viable source for my gaming needs
If he has the cash for it, why not? Certainly he will have less problem with page faulting than with less memory.
While this may be true today, I am betting that by the time GC3 ships, this will have changed. If not because GC3 will be the first (and I really believe they will use multiple cores very effectively), then because the other game producers will hear that GC3 is going to.
One Reason --> Star Citizen
Here are some comparisons..
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/computing-components/processors/intel-vs-amd-which-processor-is-best-936589
and of course Toms hardware
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html
Hope this helps.
Don't let the Intel boys scare you. I've always run AMD, and never had a problem. I just upgraded to the 4Gz 8 core chip myself, and it works great.
For gaming, get a good video card. That makes the bigger difference in playing games nowadays anyways.
One thing I would suggest though, is to get a good aftermarket cooler. I got the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. Quite a large one (only has maybe a half a centimeter of clearance with the side of the case), but it keeps the chip cool all the time, and it's very, very quiet.
Thanks impinc, I was thinking of a PowerColor AMD Radeon HD 7870 GHz, 2GB, thinking that if I'm going with AMD, I should stick with AMD for the video card too? Thoughts?
It doesn't really matter as far as I know. Only thing I can think of, is that it all depends on the motherboard you get, and only if you plan on running more than 1 video card. If you get a MB with crossfire, then go AMD. If it has SLI, then go Nvidia. I admit, I'm not one who knows the best video cards out there, as I usually am 5-10 years behind (it's always the thing that gets left out of an upgrade for me).
The motherboard I got was an Asus M5A97 Pro 2.0. I'm running an Nvidia card in it now, and everything runs fine. Though I have to admit, that the video card is severely lacking (GeForce 210). That with the new CPU ended up being the most painless PC build I've ever done. And I've been building them for over 20 years. First time I did a build where I didn't have to re-open the case afterwards (granted, that's usually my own fault in forgetting to hook up a cable).
I spent $400. I got the MB, the chip, the fan, and a refurbished 60GB SSD. I already had the case, 3 other HDD, and a DVD burner. I never really even use the DVD, it's more used to burn CDs for my car .
Again impinc thanks for the advice, I'll keep that in mind about the MB, This will be the first PC I've built in the last 15 years lol, I just hope when I order everything I don't forget something, mind you most of the cables you can purchase at any store but, usually way over priced at the local box stores.
Another thing I discovered (much after others had) is that good monitors of temperatures of the CPUs and GPU is an excellent idea. Manufacturers have become defensive about overheating, so they typically build into these devices mechanisms that will reduce clock speeds, if necessary, to ensure that their temperatures do not exceed designed safe maximum. As an example, my Intel i7-4770 has a maximum temp (Tj-Max) of 100 degrees centigrade (212° farenheit) but will try to prevent the temperature from rising above 80° c by reducing clock speed.
Not an optimal build for a gaming computer. Buy 8 GB of RAM instead of 16 GB. Buy a better graphics card with the saved money. I would buy Radeon R9 280X. Or perhaps wait for 290X with non-reference coolers to appear.
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