We’ve opened up the doors to another section of the Galactic Civilizations III website: the Civilizations page in the Databanks.
Curious where the Torians are at? Want to spot-check your knowledge of the wars that shaped the Drengin? Read up on them and the rest of the major players in the upcoming crusade right here.
I need MOAR Stardock!
Don't tease us like this!
Two things I noticed;
- Only Terran heights are given in metric and imperial.
- In the menu on the left, it says Torean instead of Torian.
Otherwise YAY!
So exactly who's perspective are these bios written from? How is something 'not known'?
Torians got a rough deal.
So if the Terrans are hidden behind a forcefield on Earth, where did that Terran fleet come from in the trailer?
Poor Torians...
"Para pa pa pa. I'm lovin' it!" - Lord Kona.
It seems that for this game, I lose two of my classics/staples. In addition to the unmentioned Drath?
From the pocket universe, where the Dread Lords were trapped in. Didn't you play the DL campaign (or at least read the story part of the databanks)?
Edit: All those new informations lead to a lot of questions.
Why are the Yor no longer a Collective, and what is the meaning behind calling them Singularity?
Since when are the Altarians a Republic again, and why was it never mentioned, that Altaria is so dangerous for other races?
When did the Thalan change from Empire to Contingency, and why is their 'homeworld' called Thal now, instead of Thala?
Why is it suddenly unknown what the Krynn look like, when it was said in GalCiv 2, that they aren't one singular race, but a religious group, consisting of several races, all originating from the same world? Why was their background changed so much, for that matter? I didn't like those religious zealots that much, but I found their background pretty unique.
Have the Arceans been reduced to minor race status? I hope not.
If Toria is only 20 light-years away from Drengi, then why did it take the Drengin 70,000 years to transport the stargate there? I never understood that part.
Have the Korath been wiped out by the Drengin and Yor? Please, say "yes"!
Yes, but it was many, many years ago on the campaign.
So Thala became Thal?
We can still make our own faction correct?
Krynn Syndicate? Eeeeenteresting.
I like the name.
Let's hope Ynrhed Eidden hasn't gotten assassinated or anything . . .
From context, I'm assuming the Terrans.
Other thoughts:
"the Arceans are not a major force in galactic affairs as of 2247."
"[The Thalan] population is extremely small and their technology seems advanced even by the standards of 2242"
So I'm guessing that one of these years is the new starting date, and the other is a typo.
I wonder if the vaguely fish-like Krynn image we saw in GalCiv 2 is now supposed to be what their "confrontation suits" look like.
I don't think the Torians and Arceans are going to be made non-playable civilizations, based on the fact that they've already made it in here whereas the Drath and Korx have not. I'm more interested in why the Korath are totally absent (I'm guessing the baseline Drengin wiped them out?) and what the all-new civilizations mentioned elsewhere are.
I can answer a few of those :3
They probably achieved a technology singularity in the time since Galactic Civilizations 2. Basically an exponential increase in processing power and technical ability.
They're talking about the baseline Krynn who look like Ynrhed Eidden. You know, really strange eyes and jaw guy?
Depending on the speed the Drengin were capable of, then it could take anywhere from millions of years to around twenty exactly.
You activated my OCD and got me thinking, so I was forced to do math:
20 Lightyears = 1.892e x 17 Metres
1 year = 31,556,900 Seconds
Time elapsed = 70,000 Years
So;
31,556,900 x 70,000 = 2,208,983,000,000 Seconds
1.892e x 17 /2,208,983,000,000 = 85650.274357 m/s
That sounds fast, but the Drengin aren't exactly hustlin'. I chalk it up to having to carry a stargate the size of a small city with them, but meh.
Actually, according to the information up there now, the Yor already achieved a singularity event in the form of their "upgrade" by the Dread Lords. Of course, nothing limits them to just one (and we know it's their end-goal), but I'd guess more that this is an external rename to play up the Kurzweilian elements of their civilization more and play down people associating them with, say, the Borg.
The baseline Krynn consist of multiple races from the same world. Ynrhed is a representative of only one of those races. Also, everybody can be a Krynn (even that Drengin over there), because they are a religion, not a race.
I still find it pretty slow, actually. The Drengin used fission power for propulsion, yet they weren't capable of achieving even 0.03% light-speed? Also, carrying the stargate shouldn't have that big effect on the speed,anyhow. The Drengin only needed enough power to start moving the mass. Once that was achieved, they would need the engines only for occasional course corrections and slowing down, once they got close enough to Toria.
Possible.
Actually, it reminds me more of the Borg, or rather, the failure they were in ST. Their technological progress was not what it should have been. By the time of Voyagers Endgame finale they should have had far more powerfull technology. Dare I even say, they should have been unbeatable by that time.
Additional CivilizationsComing soon!
Tease.
I'm saddened by the lack of the Dominion of Korx and the Drath Legion. So the Altarians are a republic again? I preferred the Krynn being religious zealots. I'm not bothered by the Korath Clan missing, although it would be nice if their destruction was mentioned.
What does 'Major Civilizations Unaccounted For' mean, that it will not be playable or something else?
I know, but the "baseline race" of their leader is completely different from the others we've seen. That's probably what they're talking about.
Maybe the Drengin were so busy enslaving and brutalizing that they forgot how acceleration works in a vacuum? lol
Nah, the Drengin may be unbelievable cruel, but they're not stupid.
I find it more likely, that, whoever told that story, embellished it a lot. You know how that goes. The more a story gets retold, the taller it gets. It could also be, that it was just a clerical error. The stargate actually arrived after 70 years, but somebody accidentally wrote down that it would arrive in 70,000 years instead of 70.000. Now that would have been funny.
i always perceived the borg as lacking creativity meaning if they acquired a technology they could improve it to a point where most races would have given up due to diminishing returns but they could never have that AHA moment of going to the next step.
The only difference between acceleration in a vacuum and in an atmosphere is the air resistance. The object's inertia is still there. The amount of power to increase such a huge mass even to 0.0003c is immense, and another enormous expenditure of power would be required to slow it's speed to 0 relative to the target solar system. Add to that the power it takes to overcome the immense mass of the fuel the engines would require, and you can see how you would quickly reach a point of diminishing returns, that is, no matter how much more fuel you carried, you could not increase how fast your peak speed was. This makes me think that a 70,000 year trip could very well be the quickest they could move such a monstrosity that far with the tech they had at the time.
We're talking about 0.0003c here, not 0.03c. Well, it's actually not even that. The Drengin only achieved 0.00028571c in this case.
The Drengin were a space-faring race for several millennia at that point. I just can't believe, that the fission power they used for their ships could be that bad.
Oops. Missed that. Thanks. I will edit a change.
I would love to see some speculative values and calculations for this, including the quantity and mass of the fuel required (fission, hence I would guess hydrogen), the size of the containers required to store it, the mass of the stargate, etc. I would also imagine that they would have attached the engines and fuel containers directly onto the stargate, rather than trying to push or pull it with ships (with maybe one ship to remotely control the engines on the stargate). I would speculate that the size and cost of the ships would be much more expensive than an equivalent set of engines and fuel containers and the manning cost would be much higher, all of which would have reduced the efficiency of the operation significantly.
Don't forget that the scale of this is somewhat like an engine for a model airplane pushing a moon.
The Drengin used un-manned probes for this, so no need for life-support, crew quarters, etc.
Stargates are city-sized, so it would be closer to a regular airplane pushing a landmass the size of Detroit (or any other big city). Well, or rather several airplanes trying to do that.
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