So the expansion for Civ 5 Gods and Kings is out today. Think its worth the 29.99 they're asking?
I'm definitely getting it next week when I'm less busy (and it is actually released in my region).
First impression of players and first reviews are rather positive, so I'm looking forward to it a lot.
I liked even vanilla Civ 5, so I think G&K will be all good stuff for me.
Only if you liked Civ 5 going in. If you didn't like Civ 5, this isn't going to change your mind.
Yeah, buts its $29.99 that is the big issue. They're obviously charging a lot because they think people will pay, not because its what its worth. I'm not poor, but I don't like the idea of companies making obscene amounts of profit for sub-par games/expansions.
Amazon has it for $26.99. Redeemable via Steam.
Sid Meier's Civilization V: Gods and Kings [Download]
When you can get the full game Warlock from Paradox for less, then I must say that Paradox has the better deal.
Sins Rebellion is essentially an expansion for those who already owned Trinity, and cost Trinity users the same $30...just putting things into perspective...
I only have $20 to spend so I'm waiting first for Gal Civ 2 bundle to go on sale for $9.99 then I'll buy Civ 5 expansion when it goes on sale for $9.99.
I realize I'm in the minority, but Warlock was a dud for me. I played through it twice, and felt no desire to ever play it a third time. To me, it wasn't worth the $20 I paid for it.
I installed the Civ5 expansion last night, but haven't had a chance to play it. I really hope they've improved the AI, particularly on the diplomatic side. While I really liked the gameplay mechanics in the original game, the AI opponents were just ludicrous diplomatically.
Warlock at least does some things right- I don't think it's a great game like Brad does, but it's decent and worth $10.
Hearing the AI wasn't really improved enough to make this worth a purchase, and with FE being the better running and better playing game already, I'm going to pass on Civ V.
With you in the minority, I didn't even buy it. very disappointed.
1) Civfanatics sadly has been a for profit puppet of 2k for a bit now. You go there, post safe posts, stick your nose up the butts of the brass and hope to get hired while the site owners rake in huge profits from ads. Choose one of the many splinter sites if you want a honest opinions that takes many different perspectives into account.
2) I order from Getgamesgo.com for $22. We are basically paying for 2 features that should have shipped with the game to begin with..but I'll give it a shot for 20 bucks.
3) The production of Civ 5 is everything that is wrong with gaming today and while the game itself has been made playable..no one should support it. Plenty of pirate sites have cracked copies and this is one game where it is more ethical to pirate than to pay.
4) I didnt like warlock either..I think the voice acting poisoned it for me..it echos in yourt brain even when turned off
No such thing. If you don't like it, grow up and abstain.
Civ V completely redid many game mechanics that had been core to Civ II, III, and IV...trying to incorporate religion and espionage (which are not essential) would have only complicated attempts to balance completely new and unvetted systems like global culture, global happiness, policies, population -> research (instead of gold), city states, one unit per tile combat, etc...
God and Kings is comparable to the expansions of Civ IV...so I'm guessing you didn't like those either?
The game has had continual updates to fix bugs, graphics issues, UI deficiencies, and balance problems...updates have also added new content or fundamental changes to existing content...I won't claim the game is perfect but I daresay it is a good production...
Bullshit
It is never more "ethical" to pirate something. Pirates are the lowest form of scum on the Internet, particularly those who rationalize their shittiness.
Man you guys are lucky.... gods and kings for only $30!!! In Oz, we are being ripped off for $50.... which is a whole $10 less than the original game price.... expansions should not be the same price as original game.......
So I'm going to keep playing FE, and Warlock
Pirates are not even remotely close to real "internet scum".
Pirates
To every pirate or would-be pirate, I have this to say: try your hand at making even a simple, viable computer game, and you'll get why such vehemence is heaped upon you by developers (not to mention the money).
Gods & Kings
I like it. But I like Civ5 in general, if only for the fact that there are no more SOD. Everything else is gravy. Sure, the tech tree is a little linear, but I can finally win a game without having to have dozens of cities scattered across the map doing heaven knows what. It plays much cleaner, has much more focus than Civ4 (which I loved as well). GaK is just the first step towards a fully developed experience ala Civ4BtS.
Warlock
In its present state it is simplistic, but it is a solid foundation to build upon. Yes, I will probably buy DLC (I think I already did w/ the reptilian civ).
Cost of Gaming
Think of it this way; I coughed up approx. $70 for Skyrim, $60 for Skyward Sword, etc; that's just how console titles are these days. PC titles just spread the cost over time (as far as I can tell). Besides, there are so many discounts so frequently through digital distribution, funding the habit quickly becomes a moot point.
@Kyro & Frogboy : Still waiting for you to address why the Galciv2:ToA shipped with completely broken AI and you've done nothing about it but grab the money as it flowed it. Here is an ethical question for you - you gunna pay the modders who are fixing your game for you?
If developers can justify lying to customers about the quality and completeness of the product they are taking money for then I fail to see how its suddenly unethical for customers to "test" the product for free before hand.
@enoeraew37
Why are you bashing ToA now? That was a great game and it's a massive exaggeration to describe the AI as 'completely broken', thats just daft and you know it. Civ 5 is a great game too, you may not like it but I sure do - if you hate it so much why would you want to pirate it anyway? People say it lacks depth but the game feels sophisticated enough to me and I've been playing civ since the 2nd one - it's a good game now and it will be even better after a few mods.
Also, piracy is stealing so there is no justification for it regardless of whatever symantics/ethical gymnastics you may use - if you want to test a game they usually have demos and there are always forums and review sites so you can get a pretty good insight into what a game's about using these resources
Are you kidding? The AI in Galciv2:ToA is hardly broken. I think your internal rating scale is off. You can't justify pirating, you just can't - You don't see anyone saying they are going to pirate (i.e. steal) some pepsi to drink to see if the claims that it is twice as good as coke is true. And you can't return an open can of soda to the store can you?
Bottomline: If you don't like the risk of purchasing something then don't buy it! Simple as that. If the game or developer interests me then I buy the product, if not I don't or wait for it to be on a super sale that I can pick it up for a minimal amount. Why should anyone believe they are entitled to try something for free?
"Know what you do with a scurvy pirate? Make them walk the plank." the Backyardigans
You guys really don't see the difference between theft and piracy?
I'm not trying to justify piracy. I'm just saying that it is not a theft. It's... piracy.
That picture is idiotic. Just because what you are stealing is intangible does NOT mean you are not stealing.
To the larger audience:
Anyone trying to justify piracy as an ethical or moral imperative is a fucking basement dwelling troglodyte. Pay for the games you want. If you really have an ethical problem with the company in question be a god damn adult and just don't purchase the game. "You're a bad company and are evil for how you treat your customers so I'm going to steal your games and enjoy the product of your evil work." is the argument of a whiny 13 year old. A really dumb one.
I don´t think that piracy is a good thing or that it is a right of a modern gamer. But that comment is too black/white painting for me. Its not that easy. There are good and bad reasons on both sides.
I think both sides (industry and gamers, who pirate games) want go far with insults.
You don't get the point. Tangibility is irrelevant. Removing original "thing" (tangible or not) is relevant. I, in fact, can steal something that is intangible: copy a file and delete it from the original source. Copying without deleting is not stealing.
There are many great features available to you once you register, including:
Sign in or Create Account
