From Gizmodo
When JuniorCrooks posted recently about pills for weight loss, it got me curious.
Meds have desirable, and undesirable side and adverse effects. Well, what about other methods? There are caloric and food type adjustments that should be made and I wondered about tech.
There are surgical procedures such as stomach bypass surgery as well as “lap banding” where a balloon is wrapped around the junction of the esophagus and the stomach (done laparascopically – through a tube inserted through the wall of the abdomen).
Now there’s a new player: A gastric “pacemaker” (nerve stimulator would be closer to the truth) called Abiliti.
When a person starts eating, the device senses it and stimulates the Vagus nerve (which mediates stomach and intestine movement and secretion) and causes one to feel “full” much earlier than he/she would having eaten.
It’s run by a minicomputer (just like its brain, spinal cord and cardiac cousins). The device senses and paces according to the signals it receives.
According to its creators, “The system goes beyond just zapping the stomach. It also collects information about food consumption and exercise, all of which can be downloaded to the doctor's office or shared in the Abiliti online community.”
Is it effective? Yes. It’s designed to last for five years (power cell/size limitations) and costs between $24,000 to implant. That’s a good deal of money. However, if you figure in the “cost” of Diabetes and Hypertension along with resultant heart, nerve and blood vessel disease as well as Strokes and Kidney Failure, care and medications, it’s not that bad a deal and no monetary value can be placed on the human suffering. A better deal would be people saying “enough”, but how often has that ever happened?
So, is it effective? Well, according to the company, in a trial with 45 people, 20% weight loss was achieved. Considering that diets yield about 3%, that’s an impressive number.
As with any foreign device in the body, infections are a risk, and have been reported. It’ll be coming in 2014.
Worth A Second Look: Reversing Diabetes is possible (Type II – Adult Onset Diabetes/Insulin Resistant Diabetes):
http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/28/reverse.diabetes/?hpt=Sbin
My apologies for my crappy writing which can make me seem dumb, I admit i am a bad organiser with essays and floats from topic to topic in my writing, but i hope this will suffice for a forum
I made an edit which basically says what ketosis and gluconeogenisis are in basic terms
P.S. on another note, im honored to get my first karma from the doctor that has insane karma , and as a general note if i need to clarify anything in my writing, anyone should let me know i just type a tad quickly and miss points that i should discuss or clarify on
Man is that correct and exactly what is wrong with the world. A lot of it for the wrong reasons.
If those low carb diets work for you, more power to you. Personally, I don't have any diabetes in my family history. I DO have cancer and heart disease, so I'm going to stick with my Mediterraen diet which stresses fiber, a few carbs, plant protein, and most of all flavor and enjoyment in sharing a meal with those you love, and leave the red meat and cholesterol for those of you who want them.
^ Besides which you are an Orthodox Mediterraneo-Pastafarian Journeywoman belonging to the Church of the Late in the Day Munchies. . We all know it. So don't bother to deny it.
Meat with saturated fats is the BEST food to raise HDL and lower fasting plasma triglicerides, as well as shift LDL from a small dense pattern, which slips under artery walls, to a larger, bouyant pattern, which is not atherogenic. Besides if your diet is working then the heart disease should NOT be there. Isn't it ironic how you have heart disease when you eat low amounts of animal foods? So do you think going even lower is gonna help? Every day The AHA and USDA whips Saturated Fat because we've gone so low and had so many problems, do you think going yet lower and lower is better? Meat is not all saturated anyway (huge misconception). Most beef and pork fats are about 45-55% saturated with about 35-45% of it monounsaturated (most unsaturated fatty acids in animal foods is oleic acid, which is what makes olive oil healthy) and low amounts of polyunsaturated fats, with omega-3s and Omega-6s in about a 1:1 ratio.
Americans also consume a lot of omega-6 polyunsaturated vegetable oils like corn and canola which create inflamation. Think about it, these vegetable oils are unnatural, when u squeeze an olive, u get olive oil. You don't get corn oil from squeezing corn, it must be chemically extracted which damages the the fragile polyunsaturates by boiling them, then they are deoderized because they smell terrible and are horrbly rancid. Hexane is also a solvent used to extract the oils, and bleach is used to give them a pretty color. All these fats cause inflammation
Also, the attack on saturated fat only has proven it is bad in the context of processed meats and starch, check out this pie chart of what the USDA says where our sat fat is coming from. A lot of it is comming from "grain-based deserts", processed meat, and pizza, as well as the huge ambigious "other foods" it's not saying meat or saturated fat is bad for you, its saying saturated fat is common with junk food that also contains processing toxins, starch(potato chips), and sugar(cake).
http://rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/usda_saturated_fat_sources.jpg
and look at a full critique here of some of the studies
http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/02/04/the-new-usda-dietary-guideline/
Eating meat doesnt mean Mcdonalds, i mean real, fresh meat. Mcdonalds processes meat with ammonia (which can burn your skin and make you blind if you get in contact with it) and cooks them with toxic trans-fats. If this is our source of meat, of course it is bad for us and we get cancer. (btw, a vegitarian activist group called the CSPI protested and forced Mcdonalds to stop cooking with natural animal fats and forced the shift to partially hydrogenated soybean oil, and now they are suing KFC for using trans-fat, when the CSPI forced trans-fat in the first place
Lets also dissect a typical fast food meal
The good:Sat fat from beef, Lettuce, tomato, onions
The Bad:
The ugly: Potatoes(starch, Omega-6 and trans-fat overload)
Coke( high fructose corn syrup)
Sauce(ketchup and BBQ also have HFCS)
White bread (white flour, empty carbs)
The trans fat in which the beef may be cooked in
Beef is processed with ammonia taken from slaugheterhouse cuts like head and hooves of a cow
This is the point im trying to make. In McDonalds are we really eating a whole lot of saturated fat or are we eating bad fats with lots of sugar and nasty toxins???
Also, I will admit we are wasteful with meat, we should eat the yummy steaks as well as the organ meats (liver has rediculous amounts of nutrients). Of course we stopped eating organ meats and wasted the fats in the animals that could be used to make lard or beef tallow. After all, we shouldn't be eating ARTERYCLOGGINGSATURATEDFATS (sarcasm) which has been falsely demonized and made into one word by the media.
Lastly, the meditarranean diet isnt what it is made out to be. The French eat 4 times the amount of saturated animal fat than americans, and Spain and Switzerland also have people eating high amounts of fats. I don't know about the Greek, but I know Armenians and Turks love their kebobs.
Lastly, The amount of cholesterol differs individually between people, as long as you have a High HDL/Total cholesterol ratio you are fine.
Heart disease in fact acts upon cholesterol, high cholesterol is an effect of inflammation, not a cause. Your body raises cholesterol to repair damaged tissue.
Basically the arguement to lower cholesterol to fight heart disease is as sound as this
1. You get an infection
2. Your white blood cell counts go up
3. The solution is simple, lower your white blood cell count and you will fight off the infection
See? A statistical association shows that something can be a cause OR an effect or a coincidence, but correlation does not prove causation.
Flawed logic like this is making the makers of Lipitor very rich
Oh, and about nutrient density:
The most highly atherogenic material is Oxycholesterol which is a product of animal fat (beef, pork, etc.) being fried or grilled over an open fire.
Actually, Fats oxidize at their smoking point. I actually do agree that heavy cooking is bad, but that is why meat should be cooked rare rather than well done or fryed or eaten raw like indigenous peoples, and research on meat "done-ness" should be done. Im all up for carbs from good sources like non-starchy veggies just reminding people that im not promoting an extreme diet
"a pleasing aroma unto the LORD."
lol, as for the Lord, i remember something about cain and abel
Where Cain was a tiller of the earth and offered plants to God he wasnt pleased
i think Abel offered his sheep but the lord was satisfied
must look up my quotes... i can't quite remember
I am happy for our civilized debate so far without name-calling
Funny shit right there....lol!!!!
Or we could promote exercise, reduce food intake, and these problems would be relegated to history.
Cannabalism would solve our problems too--then only the strong and healthy would survive.
To keep it simple, Abel offered God the best animal of his herd and took time to prepare it (gut, skin cook and divide the pieces--i.e., he made a feast as if the Lord was coming to dinner). Cain while working in the field resented the interuption and simply grabbed a sheaf of the crop he was already harvesting and tossed it to the side to "offer up" when he was done...that's what got him in the "not approved" position.
I dunno ....looking at the title... all I could think of was....
Excellent to know! I hear they still have hookers in them though.
1. Gives a whole new meaning to being tanked up. Also to 'Don't tread on me.'
2. Tanks a lot, Jafo... I got a bang over that one.
Must be where "Armor Hotdogs" came from.
I went on a low carb diet long before Adkins came out. And it worked (but the pain of no pasta!!!!). I understand the carbs = sugar thing, but now I know why it works even better (sugar=insulin production=appetitte)! Thanks for the education.
I am back on a low carb diet, not because of weight (although I can stand to lose about 10 pounds), but due to my sugar levels (not dangerous, just a tad high). I have also heard that not eating carbs reduces appetitie, and that does seem to be my case as well (I LOVE food). I am losing weight, and with that yes, I do not have as much of an appetite.
Changing a diet is never easy. But I would rather change mine slightly (still love the fat in meat!), so that I do not need to go on a Statin to control my cholesterol. I am on a Niacin regime that has a side effect of increasing your blood sugar, so that is why I cut back on the carbs.
Now, as for the gizmo (from gizmodo) - just another small step for man - to the borg collective!
Only way to eat it!!!!!!
You are a great source of good information and I will thank you again. I like my meat rare!
But I wanted to add one comment. There are many low carb diets, but there are no NO-Carb diets that I know of. The reason? Carbs are in almost all food! Princeof Star hit the big ones, but even non-green veggies have them as well. So you can get plenty of carbs by just eating more veggies (but they still do not taste like pasta!).
That would be unhealthy. Having a small amout of carbs is ok. Just not the french fries/pasta with with rice and bread on top of that!
The hidden carbs as in gravies, thickened soup, etc. should be watched as well.
Man, with all this stuff I have to stop eating I won't be around another week to chat with you all. I will just fade away.
I don't stop eating any of it, I pay attention and eat less of it. Pretty much everything that has been said here agrees with my experience. I also have to watch carbs and be very light with sugar, seem to be ok with meat. The one thing that I did have to stop completely, mainly because it makes such a huge difference, is soda pop (full sugar load variety).
I have several things that I love and have occasionally, always good for a couple of pounds that I have to knock off again.
My thoughts exactly. No point in feeling better about my weight if I'm miserable the entire time. And I wouldn't stick with it.
http://lifehacker.com/#!5778091/get-tax-deductions-for-weight-loss-and-other-unexpected-things
An interesting take on tax deductability of weight loss.
"But I wanted to add one comment. There are many low carb diets, but there are no NO-Carb diets that I know of. The reason? Carbs are in almost all food! Princeof Star hit the big ones, but even non-green veggies have them as well. So you can get plenty of carbs by just eating more veggies (but they still do not taste like pasta!)." (new to forum IDK how to quote)
Well the point i was trying to make is yes the brain and muscles do need carbs but the point is you can get enough from veggies and you do not need the ridiculous amounts we get like 300-375g recommended by the USDA. Once you eat too many carbs then the high levels of insulin kicks in. Your body doesn't like a lot of blood sugar so insulin sends fat to be stored, locks fat in the fat cells, and stimulates the liver to make palmitic acid (which is a common saturated fatty acid). Basically, by keeping fat stored away your body is forced to burn the carbs, but once the blood sugar goes down insulin can still stay high, and fat is still locked in and your blood sugar is also low, which makes your cells starved until insulin levels drop; hence why you can feel hungry so soon after a big carby meal, like after eating at a Chinese restaurant. Basically you go from fat burning mode to fat making and fat storing mode, fat isn't some evil molecule out to kill you, its just that when you raise carb levels with lots of chips and cookies and bread and pasta and starchy veggies, your body can't access the fat for burning. That's why meat has never been proven to be bad, saturated fat is only proven to be bad in the context of sugar or starch (in other words, cake and donuts and chocolate). Saturated fat has never been shown BY ITSELF to be bad. All the studies and stories of going vegitarian also cut out sugar and eat less starch and more vegitables and usually quit smoking and drinking. Its always Mcdonalds compaared to vegitarians, or course the vegitarians are gonna be healtier. I'd like to see an experiment done with omnivores eating Mostly meats and veggies and no donuts and no smoking, and the vegitarians can have veggies bread or fake meat or whatever and let us see who does better. I would appreciate a study like that, pretty much all studies about meat eaters are biased, The meat eaters usually smoke more and drink more and eat bad carbs like chips and potatoes and don't excercise, while the vegitarians don't eat junk food and smoke or drink... of course the vegitarians will be healthier in this case, but you haven't proved it by controlling all the variables. Maybe Nature knew what she was doing when she made meat taste good.
Y'all enjoy that rare cooked liver -- I've powered up my breadmaker and the Mardi Gra King Cake for tomorrow is in the works right now! (I AM using whole wheat flour, so there will be fiber). This year it's gonna be lemon cream cheese filling, too.
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