I've been playing T.E.C. many times and the Capital Ships when Auto named have TDN I imagion it's like uss for modern ships I was just wondering what TDN stood for.
Im assuming its Navy because if you understood how much is involved with the upkeep of just 1 branch of the military you'd know theres no way TDN stands for EVERY branch the TEC runs. Also do you see any research techs for dropships, or improved body armor or faster hover tanks......All the tech is geared towards the ships. Which tells you TDN is nothing more then an acronym which is put before ALL human military ships.(A military tradition to mark their ships) It does not mean that ALL branches of service is unified into one lump group. There is NO ingame representation of any other branch........its totally observant of the ships. nothing more. Also the TEC have had 10 years to build up their Military...Might not seem long but they were able to stall the Vasari which tells you their moving pretty fast which always happens in war. If there is other branches...............we dont see any evidence of them. Not that they dont exist, but SINs is all about InSpace Battles so it solely focuses on the Ships. Im not arguing there isnt any Marines, or Air Force or Army. Infact I believe they exist just not emphasized in the game or lore. I also doubt theyd be under one flag so to speak. The TEC is like the Pentagon, its the hub of military operations, theyd definitely have other branches but TDN doesnt hint at anything more then the usual USS or HCMS or HMS etc etc which is nothing more then a acronym used to mark a nations ships. The fact they use an acronym tells you that they are pulling their military knowledge from their holovids or books (whatever form theyll be in).
So? Perhaps they just call their entire military a Defense Network. You just don't see any other part as you don't command 'em.
Theres no reference to a network in any of the lore. They do refer to Defense Forces..........so i doubt they refer to their military as a Defense Network.
...cause the lore is just about ships. just sayin.
But I like Kitkun's comment. How do you know TDN refers to just one part of the TEC forces? We don't know, and judging by the information we do have, it makes the most logical sense that it refers to all branches (if there is more than one, this is space, who knows what else besides fleets will be needed?)
And the Defense Forces thing just solidifies the "D" as being Defense. It doesn't remove any other possibilities for other letters. Forces can't go into the "N" slot, so network is still open...
Ill tell you exactly why TDN doesnt refer to anything but the ships...........You dont see it on anything else.............. not even the BIG STARBASES that you are allowed to name. Even the frigates dont have TDN infront of it..............The TEC Siege Frigate has TEC tattooed on its backside, not TDN....If TDN was such a profound part of TEC descriptions it be in more locations then just the Capital ships...........It be stamped on the HangerBays and Gauss Cannons.......As well as the Starbases. If the TEC look at EVERYthing in their arsenal as apart of this Network..........theyd stamp everything with it. All the way down to the Military Lab and SC. TDN is nothing more then an acronym that is placed before TEC Capitals so that when you read the BIG FAT LETTERING on the side of a ship you think "OH that BIG BADASS ship belongs to the TEC".
Fact is if TDN was to describe more then just the Capital ships.................Youd see it in more places.
Traditionally, those acronyms are only used on ships and are part of the name. You don't see the names of the frigates. Starbases are a base, not a ship. Strikecraft and structures would never have the acronym apart of their names, even if they had any.
Exactly so why would TDN be used to refer to ALL the branches of the TEC if its only an acronym found on Capital ships. If TDN refers to the TEC military as a whole it be on everything. Just like if you look at the US Army, Russian Army etc etc everything they operate down to their nametags on uniforms has the Branch they belong to. If Everything is crammed into 1 Military Branch it be the same deal and TDN would be found on alot of other things. I can accept TDN being Trader Defense Network when describing the Fleet(s) I cant imagine why TDN would only be found in one place but is a description used for ALL of the TEC forces.
For all we know, it could be used everywhere. Thing is, the only place it'd be visible to players is in the names of ships. Of which, we only see those of the capitals.
I think your trying to build on something thats nothing more then a simple military acronym to allow others to identify the ships loyalty.
Think of now. U.S. fighters don't have USS in front of them, but their aircraft carriers sure do.
true but defense installations do as well as specialized shipyards
i swear, i think i said the same thing, kitkun and CI. but no matter. this is like arguing about god. we have no evidence. a lack of evidence more supports the negative rather than the positive. so it is more likely that the other branches dont exist. also, there was the example of the japanese in wwii, whose chips were called IJN... referring to the whole navy, not the individual ship. now why not just jump that up one level, and have it refer to the entire military?
because there is no representation of any other branches, The closest you get to ground troops is on the Vasari side, the shocktroops which are only referred to once. While I whole heartedly believe there are other branches....This game doesnt even try to refer to them when it comes to TEC. So the idea that the N in TDN means network because the TEC use it to describe ALL the branches to me isnt a good enough arguement.......now if you said well the fact that you can detect incoming enemy up to two jumps away and triangulate that its heading to a particular GW and that it seems like all the tactical structures are somehow tied in and that the Fleets seem like a mobile version of this then Id agree they do work as a network. But to be honest in the 2000+ years mankind has had Navies and referred to groups in those Navies as Fleets. Network has never been used to describe the cumilation of Fleets. And yes its the future things will be different but theres no proof to me as to why the TEC would call their Navy anything different then just that....And to me making an arguement based on opinion that there are other branches is just not good enough.......all your doing is argueing something technically make believe to prove your point. Theres no evidence of anything but a Navy Branch.
There's zero evidence that network refers only to fleets.
again..................theres zero evidence that an Army, Air Force, or Marines exist. Im not argueing Network isnt possible............Im arguing your reasoning for why its network is flawed.
I'm arguing that it's not neccesarily 'Navy'.
um okay. i guess the Frigates (a naval term) a crusier (a naval term) a battlecrusier (a naval term) a battleship (a naval term) a dreadnought ( a naval term) Fleet (a traditionally naval term) doesnt stand as evidence of what the N is then.
But the make believe Fanfic Marines, Army and Air Force does................................................
Not really. It's pure speculation that it is, and pure speculation that it isn't.
As for the latter and other sections of the military, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Particularly considering they're mentioned here and there.
HOW is Dreadnought and battleship speculation? Fleet? Cruiser? and so on? Ive never come across a tank called a Frigate, or a Air Force base called a Carrier................Those are Military terms. Used for Naval Vessels.
As for the other branches............Id like to see where these other branches are mentioned? Cause According to all the Lore that Ive researched theres no mention of ground troops or an air force..........And like I said before which you seem to skip over I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE OTHER BRANCHES...............because you lack the proof which you admit to on one hand and then claim there is proof of doesnt make it REAL. Only thing there is proof of is a Navy. Show me some Lore that states there are Ground Troops in the TEC and Ill gladly apologize.
'Cuz just because there's a navy present, doesn't mean they refererence everything as 'Navy'.
Antorak's Subversion is the clear example.
Anywho, I'm away for a few days. Was fun.
Antorak is NOT TEC it cant be used to defend your view of Network as the word.
They use frigates and capital ships. So they have a Navy. Given that everything else is a carbon copy, it's reasonable to assume their military is split up in the same way.
Bringing in the Advent and Vasari isnt actually making an arguement. Plain and simple you claimed that Ground troops for the TEC have been mentioned that proves theres other Branches of Military other then Navy......so where is it? You dont even have to post it here tell me what page number is in the manual or what website that has Canon Lore. And Ill go look it up.
i'm pretty sure there isnt a mention of ground troops for the TEC at all, which i think you were getting at, allegiance. no need to be an ass about it though. and just because it uses naval terms doesnt mean it is called a navy. think of Halo. UNSC is United Nations Space Command. no navy there. unless i suddenly lost the ability to read.
I'm thinking TDN is only on the Capital Ships because there the only ships with names
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