He needed it. It's obvious a serious imbalance was in place if erebus was the only character to get a nerf in the new update.
Chaosnaska's whiny bitch ass just got owned.
Pantheon might be a bit more enjoyable now, less Erebus nubs.
Did we really need another post on this? *sigh*
Didn't realize there were others. Good thing, though. Let the erebus nubs know.
Well, I agree on the mana cost, but the rest was a bit excessive. But hey, you seem pretty happy about it. That's a good thing I spose.
good to hear now dont come back here giong on a rant that hes OP when you get spanked again
To be honest, Chaosnaska was downright hostile to even the thought of nerfing anything, let alone erebus. Crow doesn't taste so good, but it's medicine for being an arse.
Meh well. It's not that I am "happy" about it. I just think it was really needed. Not only from my experience with erebus but also playing against him. The people going around saying that DG is perfectly balanced were being very delusional and cutting down anyone who thought otherwise. Fact is, some imbalances were there and needed be looked at. And so now, it's nice to see GPG looking into it and seeing that some imbalances really do exist. It will shut up some of the people around here.
His main character is Erebus, partly why I found it funny.
Or people cried like bitches and got him nerfed. Happens in every single game. So and so is overpowered QQ I've got sand in my vag because I suck at the game. Devs get tired of hearing about it so they nerf it to shut the retards up. Nothing more than that really.
Just so you know, I honestly don't think it is just erebus who needs some tweaking, all of the characters need to be looked at more throughly and given buffs or nerfs in the overall scheme of things.
Doesn't explain UB, Reg, Sedna, or Oak. They were bitched about just as much. Thing is, erebus was an OBVIOUS unbalance and thats why he got first nerfing.
Thing is, even with bite a bit underpowered now(the mana cost is a bit high for what you get now...), I'll still beat people. I've killed DG's without bite before, it just takes more effort. I don't need to kill you, I just need to make you run, and the change to bite shouldn't really make that any less possible.
Do I believe the nerf is too much? Yes. Will I work around it? Obviously. Erebus is a very fun and versatile character to play, and I plan to enjoy him as such.
They weren't bitched about NEARLY as much as erebus is. I find it funny that you're a reg player. The average reg vs the average erebus = dead reg. If you know how to play you can make him your bitch, but most people dont know what they're doing. So they cry.
No hero is OP, no skill is OP. There are ways to work around every single hero and skill. But its easier to cry about things than try.
No, its the fact that there was literally no counter for him that I tried, and I did my best and it did nothing. Literally NOTHING could be done against him.
That image is a little out dated im now rank 4 but you see my point.
Oh, and 16 of my losses are disconnects
Lol actually just checked and im back at rank 2 yay!
You only play rook, that's not exactly trying everything. These games are all about countering. You don't play what you like, you play to counter the other team. When they pick a hero you pick a hero that counters them, when they pick a skill you pick a skill to counter it. That's how you win these games. If that doesn't sound like fun this might not be the genre for you.
You can't rely on your team to do it. You can never rely on your team. You play to win by yourself, if the team helps that's a bonus but you can't rely on the guy next to you to do something. It's a "if you want things done right, do it yourself" genre.
Don't worry sagat got nerfed everyone will be happy.
you cant repick a hero whilst in a pantheon match.
Hmm... I'm going to have to go ahead and... Disagree, with you there...
See we here are Demigod like to think we're part of a "team"... Yeah... See we're Leveraging synergies now... Did you get the memo?
So if you could just, "try" and remember that... That'd be great... And ahh, I'll be sure you get another copy of that memo...
Absurdedly wrong. Teamwork is paramount in this game, just as it is in DoTA. Not only is teamwork important, but having team members who are individually skilled is also critical. You remind me of those guys who'd take credit for winning a match when you were getting tons of backup from a sedna or qot.
Think of it this way. Did anyone who played Erebus ever NOT get bite? No? Then clearly the ability is not balanced. Two solutions - nerf it, or buff all the other abilities until they are just as useful.
Since cross balance demigod play would probably get screwed up by buffing everything else, bite got nerfed. Will you choose it every time now? If not, then the purpose is solved. Whether Erebus is now overall too weak compared to other demigods we will see, but this goes a long way towards internally balancing him.
And that's a good thing in the end.
Ah, you're using a nomenclature where OP means "100% unbeatable". No one else uses the word to mean such a thing, but I see that you're a special snowflake. I'm sure that you believe, just as no ability is significantly stronger than others, that no ability is worse than others, right? I mean, since there is this magical perfect balance that the game has achieved. I'm sure you consistently win games as a Sedna Yeti-build, right?
Edit: InfiniteVengeance says it nicer, but yeah. Agreeing with him.
You can NOT rely on your team in this or DotA unless you're bringing people you know. In a public game you absolutely can not rely on them, if you think you can you're smoking crack. Yes, you might get a good team mate, or your team mate might suck shit. But you can't just assume they're good or know what they're doing. More often than not 1 or more will have no idea what the hell is happening. You rely on yourself and only yourself and if it happens that you get lucky then you'll be all that more powerful. If not you havent fucked yourself by relying on someone thats no good.
The people that play these games and rely on team mates are the same people we're seeing here crying about heroes. ZOMG Sniper/troll warlord/PA/etc are OP!!! Except none of them are if you had gotten an item to stop them you'd be fine. But you chose to get whatever items that are 1337sauce instead and now you get to eat shit. You can't assume someone else is going to get a sheep stick to disable them, you have to do it yourself. If you don't you have no one to blame but yourself.
Does anyone play sedna without the heal? No because you'd be a retard not to get an ability that can heal you in big chunks. Does that make her heal OP? Nope, just means its something that can turn a battle by giving you more staying power. Bite can be stopped by a number of things, but again, people don't care to counter it, they'd rather bitch like children.
In a game like this (you cant have every ability) many skills will go unpicked. Not because they're necesarrily weak but because they don't fit into what you're trying to accomplish. In most games snipe is not needed, does that make it a useless skill? No, it means its situational and the generally the situation doesn't call for it.
How can we possible beat erebus? Silence doesnt work, stun doesn't work, mark of the betrayer doesn't work, landmines don't work, circle of flames doesn't work. He's unstoppable. I haven't played erebus in quite a while because he's nothing special at all. The people I've played against lately that use him end up just feeding and crying in the end. He's not an issue, bite's not an issue but if you want to nerf him and make him a bigger punching bag I'll keep feeding off of him. What's next for the whaambulance anyways?
Check my games dude. I don't play custom matches so I don't get to see what the other team is picking. Pantheon and Skirmish matches don't show you and I haven't ever played a custom match yet.
I ment trying everything as a Rook. Yes I am a Rook Player and "countering" the enemy in a Panthenon match by DG choice is not possible so your arguement is void.
...Your basing your conclusions off of random games with people of varied skill that for the most part, will suck. How do you know the balance is actually flawed, when you dont even have good teammates, when you yourself are probably nothing special?
Pantheon means nothing, you idiot. Playing against random people with no teamwork trying to be the hero really means something. Why dont you find some random people, and fight against me and my team, and see how you do. Then you can cry that the demigods we use are overpowered!
Speaking of rook, *I* play rook. I have never fought an erebus with any trouble at all. Even when they mistform my slams and spam bite and do everything you like to whine about. Infact, I've yet to fight an erebus that I can't fundamentally SHUTOUT with rook. Of course, this is all based upon MY EXPERIENCES, and who ive faced. You of course, base yours off of YOUR experiences. Obviously we have DIFFERENCES. UNTIL we have a way to actually see how erebus does in organized games, we can't find common ground between said experiences, thus no conclusive way to nerf anyone without truly knowing if they're op.
Seriously though, you're a shitty ass rook. I have no problems playing erebus at all, and 90% of the ones i play are the typical cookie cutter pot chugging and biting assassin erebus's.
I read a thread yesterday where Frogboy asked the communtiy to be nicer and more polite. This thread is not polite. You are free to express your opinion about the last update but calling Chaosnaska a "whiny bitch" is just unnecessary.
Please do not use the term "nubs" either. You know that it stands for new players and you don't trash talk new players, you teach them how to play the game instead. Players would never behave as bad on a soccer field that they are behaving on online games.
agreed, infact YOUR the noob yourself if u dont even try to help them learn how to play.
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