There needs to be a serious adjustment to teleportation scrolls. Either severely shorten the length of time it takes me to teleport out, or make me stun immune while I'm doing it. I don't care what you do, just solve the problem please.
As it stands right now, I can't do what every single so-called "pro" or "skilled" person on this forum recommends I do - RUN AWAY. In the last game I just played, I kept getting slaughtered by an unclean beast. So I loaded up on teleport scrolls. I wasn't even going to TRY to fight him at all. I was simply going to run away at first sight of him. That's all I wanted to do. That was my mission in life - just run away. Nothing else.
But I couldn't even do that. As soon as he appeared out of the fog of war, I hit teleport. The teleport charged up, he stunned me while teleport was charging, then he killed me within a few seconds because teleport didn't work. WORSE, the stun would even make it so that my teleport scroll had a cooldown, as if I had just successfully used teleport, WHEN THE FACT IS IT GOT INTERUPTED.
After the first failed attempt at "I don't want to fight, I don't even want to win the game, I just want to successfully run away" I asked him point blank "Look, I tried to teleport away WITH FULL HEALTH, wasn't successful... what the hell else am I supposed to do?" He said "I dunno... I'm not the game designer." So I tried once more, i.e. after reincarnation I set out to another flag on the other side of the map from where I had just gotten killed. As I'm walking there WITH FULL HEALTH, I see the unclean beast appearing out of the fog of war. I again instantly hit teleport and clicked on my citadel. Again, he ran up, stunned me while I was teleporting, then killed me within a few seconds. Again, the teleportation cooldown started even though it was not successful (not that I would have had time to try using it again before dying). If you must know, he was level 7, I was level 6.
Is it too much to ask to just be able to have a chance to successfully teleport away? I'm not asking to win the game, I DON'T WANT TO WIN THE GAME, I don't want anything adjusted to make it so that I can win the game. I don't want my demigod buffed, and I don't want his demigod nerfed. I just want one thing, and one thing only. I just want the chance to teleport away when I have full health and a teleportation scroll in hand, and when I hit teleport the very instant I see an enemy demigod. In other words, I want to be able to teleport away, and subsequently LOSE because I can't deploy my demigod on the field of battle and have him capture flags, kill creeps, level up, etc. without getting killed.
Am I asking too much?
Maybe not too much but I'd say you're asking for the wrong adjustment (assuming one is needed at all).
I'm not going to pretend to be a pro here but if all else has failed (taking advantage of available speed boosts, potions, stuns/silences of your own, etc.) and there really is absolutely no way to get away from the UB, then I'd say it's the UB that needs a fix. I really don't think teleport scrolls should be a flawless "get out of jail (practically) free" card.
Yeah, this is to much. Teleports should be able to be interrupted.
Buy the reusable speed buff item instead of mass teleports if you want to run away.It's less than 2k.
ahahaha. Yeah you're asking way too much. This would break so much. Teleportion scrolls are perfect right now.
Here's an idea. Wait until he uses the stun, THEN teleport away while it's on cooldown.
teleportation scrolls are fine as-is IMO. speed items, snares, stuns, potions (quick ones) or help from a team member are some options when forced to run from a UB (he's tough on quite a few DGs early on). exta HP from a chestplate wouldn't hurt either.
I'm really asking too much? Well GREAT community. That's just freaking GREAT. Useless advice on "just learn to run" everywhere you turn, coupled with useless teleport scrolls that do you no good whatsoever, and total impossibility to run or teleport away no matter what you do, no matter what sacrifices you are willing to make to do it. Thanks a lot. I really appreciate it. I sincerely do.
Hehe, did you actually read the responses? I see plenty of possibilities in there anyways.
If you ask the question "am I asking to much?", people can actually give an answer you do not have to like..
Which demigod did you with play anyways?
Teleport scroll in this game is not meant as an escape tool - it just has very long cast time.
Please use other items: temporary speed boost by 50%, Cloak of Night (favor item with blink) for generals, and Cloak of Elvenking (with blink also) from the artifact shop.
Another option would be to buy some items that increase movment speed permanently and don't let UB hit you, so you can't beslowed by his skills.
Sincerely yours, Captain Obvious.
Indeed. Teleportation is fine.
Imo you should try running normally first, run away as far as you can, goes behind towers and such and when he stun you to stop, after the stun just hit teleport scroll. That'd be best i guess. If you start running as you see him i think you can easily run to your nearest tower which probably make him hesitate a bit to come in and kill you. If he run faster than you get the +25% movement speed item. That'd make you run faster or at the same speed as him. Note that you shouldn't try to run after he attack you since UB normally has reduce movement speed effect from its attacks.
On one side, if you ask for uninterruptible scroll, you will see a game that no kill will be made at all.
Why is it that any post I read from you, you flame the community while claiming they all flame you? So far the majority seem to think the TP works fine. When offering you alternative strategies you accuse the whole community of hostility. I think I smell a bit of troll.
If you are not trolling then step back and realize that just because people do not agree with you doesn't mean that they are flaming you or being hostile. Maybe they just disagree with your opinion.
My opinion is in line with most of the posters here. I believe TP is ok. It can be annoying being on the other end of the equation and losing a kill as your intended victim is wisked from your grasp before you can deliver your killing blow. Just offering a perspective from the other side as food for thought.
What? And just how am I supposed to get these things? Like, wait for them to fall from the sky like mana from heaven? I have no ability to equip any favor items due to a bug, and I certainly have never had the money to equip an artifact with any competitive game I've ever played online.
What the hell are teleport scrolls supposed to be used for, anyway?
LOL! Don't let UB hit me? Duhhhh... what the hell do you think I'm doing when I'm trying everything humanly possible to get away from him and stay away from him from the moment he steps into view? If I had the ability to "not let UB hit me," do you think I'd be here asking to have teleport scrolls made so that I could actually USE them to get away from him? I mean, that's the most useless piece of advice I've ever seen. It's the equivalent of telling me "win so you don't lose." LOL!
is this topic a joke? if you were stun immune with portal scrolls people would use them, then abort the cast after people waste there nukes. imo the length of the cast is fine.
Jesus dude, I am neither accusing anyone of flaming me here, nor am I claiming that anyone has flamed me. While I'm somewhat stupified and almost disbelieving of the fact that the majority here leave me no option whatsoever for getting away from UB, I guess most people have been fairly polite in their responses.
Calm down man. You are obviously quite frustrated which is a natural response to beating your head against a problem like this but I think you need to walk away for a moment and come back with a clear head.
Gabbelgak and wordtaint have already made a valid suggestion that you have overlooked because you were a bit worked up over things. In fact you yourself have even mentioned that pro players would advise you to run away. Running away does not necessarily mean loading up on teleportation scrolls.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that that you tried simply running away and found out that players tend to take advantage of UB's speed and swiftly overtake you. Items that grant temporary speed boosts are effective in counteracting this kind of speed advantage - enough to let you escape.
Furthermore running away is not just a simple matter of running in one direction - think about where you are running to. Retreating back towards towers is very effective against the UB because it doesnt have the staying power to absorb the damage. Another good idea would be to stick close to or retreat towards your teammates. Again the UB can not stand up to being focus fired on and will be forced to run away or die.
You can also plan ahead and stay close to your towers/teamates when you know a UB is around. You could even try working on some strategies to trap him, like drawing him onto some of Regulus' mines or a multi DG ambush.
Now, as for getting effective help from the forums.
It really helps not to be passive aggressive in your posts or to type in caps. Nor is it wise to belittle the entire forum. I'm patient enough (or maybe you just caught me on a good night) to recognise a lot of what you have written here comes from frustration - a lot of people will not have that patience for whatever reason and simply not bother to help you or worse.
In future if you feel this kind of frustration again - take 5 and come back to it later when you are thinking straight. This isn't just some useful for gaming its a life skill. Also if the widespread advice for a situation is to do 'x' don't discount the advice if you are not able to get it to work. Ask for help about what you are doing wrong and you may be surprised at just how many people will bend over backwards to help you if you approach them with the right attitude.
Edit: quite a few people posted between when I started writing and when I hit post - so don't feel left out if I didnt mention you Edit Edit: Uh that excuse doesn't work for liq3's good suggestion... um... I just don't liq3 you! j/k
I hate to say it, but I don't think competative gaming is for you.
Teleport scrolls aren't for running (unless its early game), they're for getting you back and forth on the map without wasting time.
Well, nevermind then.
Length is fine, as people have said repeatedly, teleport scrolls are NOT for escaping. They are for after you escape to get back to the fountain quickly, or to get back and forth from the shops, or from getting from one lane to another to help stop pushing or help other people in taking down other demigods. They are NOT for running away. If you want to run away, you should buy a wand of speed, gives a 25% movement speed boost for only $1250, that coupled with boots of speed should be plenty to get at least back to your towers before UB can catch you. If you cant do that, then it sounds like you are running far to far away from your base by yourself anyways. It seems more like you need to get better at learning when to preemptively back off, BEFORE you get attacked.
This is almost as bad as your other thread, you dismiss any single piece of advice you are given and act as if the whole world is against you - it's not. You complain about the community because you don't like the advice they offer, why did you ask for it then?
Other people manage to get away (bear in mind sometimes you just won't get away if an UB is determined to kill you!) and have given you advice about it, but you dismiss it without taking some time to think it over. The suggestion about items is valid - if you did some research you would see that there are more than the three listed above. For example the wand of speed trinket might be one helpful item, it costs only 1250 gold and on use increases speed by 25% of 8 seconds. 1250 gold can be had very early on if you think you are going to be pinned by an UB. There are other items as well if you spent some time to look. Alternatively you might need to pre-kite, and depending on what demigod you play with playing slightly less agressively might be in order if facing a fast opponent like UB. Stick aroung the grunt reinforcements if you are being picked off a lot. Part of the problem might be that you are fighting away from creeps and your vision range is quite small, as such the UB will be very close when he comes out of the fog and it's not surprising that he can kill you quickly as that's his job - killing other demigods. Also, running is often better than using teleport, if you run you can get back to towers and he is likely to stop pursuing unless he catches up with you very rapidly.
If you are bothered about the fact that you are bugged and cannot use favor items then I suggest you start your own custom games where they are disabled (I believe you can do this, apologies if I am wrong)
Also, if you think about your suggestions you would realise that they would not be very balanced, noone would ever die as they could never be prevented from teleporting away.
Anyways, I hope that's of some help - Boffinboy
Agent, you seriously need to smoke a fattie and just relax.
Think of UB like snipe. At any given moment you could be hit by him / it and lose a certain range of health. So ask yourself if you can survive it, if not is the risk worth it? Or what can you change so you don't die from it? As a side note everyone has problems with staying away from UB. He has the speed of sedna with the passive slow of regulus. That's generally why he's so good at hit and run tactics. He's not very durable but much like a rook that gets speed items, if the player aims to counter his weakness you simply need to play better to win.
I think maybe the stun shouldn't reset the cooldown on the scrolls, because if you get hit with one and you're trying to escape you're then stuck for a whole 30 seconds which is almost a guaranteed kill for the enemy.
I actually tried to go 1 on 1 with UB using QoT, and I made him my b****. Bramble shield + mulch shambler are just enough to deal with UB. To further convince myself, I tried to go 1 on 1 with nightmare AI UB (has more health and damage than a human UB) and I still made him my b****. He interrupted me and vomitted on me like I was disgusting but wasn't able to finish me off. However, when we both got to level 20, he was getting close to finishing me. It doesn't matter though because that's what he's made to do although a level 3 spike wave + speed equips and he's a slow poke who can't finish me off. I used to run away upon spotting him, but after using bramble shield + mulch shambler I made him my b****. I almost feel invincible vs any demigod using QoT. The only problem is that I couldn't finish them off either. Therefore, as long as we aren't playing 1v1 slaughter mode, I'll use QoT. Otherwise, I'd go with UB.
My advice is that you spend your gold on speed equips when UB is around. Teleportation is useless once UB gets close so it's better to spend it somewhere else.
is it possible to fake cast a teleport? enticing him into using the stun ability, then canceling it when he gets in range, then teleporting straight after?
also if you could do this and you had a health potion, wait for the stun effect of UB to finish, use a health potion, then instantly teleport away
just a thought..
wand of speed +25% speed for like 10 seconds, the items <2000g.and the whole telporting idea doesnt work too well when your a fragile character, if your getting raped as hard as you make out u'd die before u teleported, so just run, +15% swift anklet (favor) +10% boots of speed 1000g, wand of speed etc. all items that are cheap and effective.
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