Great Mod, had lots of fun with it today.

Only "ugh" feeling i got was when I jumped into enemy territory that had nothing but starbase and few hangar defences, but they managed to completely destroy my 5 capitals (levels 5-8) and about 20 cruisers. And I was fighter-heavy with 10 carrier cruisers.
The starbase only lost third of its hull hp >.>

Must've been Deathstar in disguise

Hello Jason, I download your mod yesterday and so far I really enjoy it. I played a 5 hours straight game last night as The Rebel, aside from the starwar stuff I also like the enhancement on other things. I haven't played the TEC yet but when I ran into thier KOL, I must say I'm impressed with the firework it put up.

As part of my "Entrechment" with the Rebel, I think there are some oddity with their Capship ability line up:

- Animosity: to me this is the least use ability. It only has a use early in the game with the One Capital + Frigate escort in small skirmish. In large engagement it's pretty much a handoff ability to me. So it kinda a waste IMO to have it on 2 capships. I can see some use for it on the Maria (with Energy Absortion) but I never use one on the M80a, being a frontline it should have another attack, like Flak Burst.

- The Maria: I still think Animosity is not used that often, but I can still see the point. The problem with the Maria is that right now I see it sit on full Antimatter for pretty much an entire fight, long or short. Animosity is obviously not an ability to spam unless I want the ship to die quick. EMP charge is the weakest offense ability, but the main problem here is that it's on a long cool down, which mean it won't ultilize the amber supply of antimatter the ship generate. Armstice is also another problem, to me it's also the least used 6th level ability since it's only used when I need to reposition, it's not something like Barrage or Finest Hours that I would keep on constant cool down. So you can see the problem here I have with the Maria class is that it's sitting on an anormous amount of resource with nothing to use on most of the time. I think EMP charge should be replaced with a more anti-matter intensive ability like Flak burst, Rail Gun or Iron Cannon, and their 6th level ability should also be a more commonly used one like Finest Hour. My suggention is swap between the Liberty and the Maria. Give the Liberty EMP charge and Armstice, and give Iron Cannon + Finest Hour to the Maria, or let the Liberty keep Iron Cannon and replace EMP charge with Flak Burst if you think Iron Cannon is a bit Overpower on the Maria.

I was just wondering if your going to add the Super Star Destroyer, and the Death Star for use as a moveable star base.  That would be cool.

Hi Sathykaraoke,

My initial thoughts are:

The Maria was intended to be the main-line battleship, while the Liberty was supposed to focus on control and support.

Animosity is a way of protecting ships both early and later in the game. Since the Alliance has weaker firepower compared to the Empire, and relies somewhat on regeneration and shields to sustain itself, the Nebulon and Bulk Cruisers are an obvious strategy to cripple the rebel fleet so in line with SW lore of protecting it's assets and being able to make hasty retreats this more or less works.

The question on Animosity on the Maria, and possibly replacing it with Flak Burst is interesting; I'd want to check with the SW lore people to make sure this is sustainable, but one possibility is to leave it there for now and simply increase the damage output or reduce the cooldown of EMP charge on the Maria.

It's a two-fold question of a) balance and SW lore. I'm open to any ideas that will make this a more enjoyable experience whilsts remaining true as possible to the SW universe.

Bloodember... no super capitals or Death Stars. The SOGE mod will be doing a full conversion and include those. Requiem will always stay balanced against the existing Tech/Vasari/Advent races and since they have no answer to an SSD or Death Star it make those races unplayable. Also the SSD's are too big to fit into the current gravitiy wells.

Delta... that is true But only if Luke was in your fleet.

For those interested, there is now a 2.4 beta patch available over in the Modding forum at http://sins.imperial.cc... if everything checks out ok I'll release it fully on Friday.

You need to convert the entities from binary to text format. There is a convert .exe file in your Sins folders somewhere which runs at the command line to do this.

I like it! Let me check with Goa and Warmaster for a final vett

In regards to the phase inhibitors, in vanilla Sins they had crappy range.  A lot of popular mods extended that range to cover the entire gravity well.  I think JasonFJ should do that as well for the inhibitors in this mod.

The need of more inhibitors to cover more range make sense to me, it force the player to sacrifice some defensive capabilities in order to have a wider and guaranteed 700% charge rate penalty area.

However if you place the inhibitor on the front line instead of the other side of the planet it can cover both jump angles, but there is a higher probability it becomes the first target (forcing the player to counter this making more than one in the same area, like the AI does). To me that's intented and shouldn't be changed, one inhibitor to cover all the gravity well just make the game easier.

Yeah, but I was thinking from a lore perspective.

I found a couple of very minor things in 2.4b version:

-The Rebel XQ1 starbase is missing "Phase Destablilizer". Once you research the upgrade (50%/100%) it will appear but the orignial (30%/100%) isn't there when the starbase is built.

-The inforcard for the "Hangar Capacity" upgrade for the Rebel XQ1 starbase says that the first level is 0 -> 8 squardrons when it should say 0 -> 4 squadrons.

Great Mod guys. Keep up the great work!

Thanks for all the feedback, I'm been checking this all out

1. For the XQ not having the 30% phase penalty, this has been fixed in 2.4 release
2. For the Phase Inhibitors not working, I have confirmed these are working. I haven't made one Phase Inhibiter cover the entire gravity well for the reason Lotek gave: you have to sacrifice tactical slots if you want full gravity well coverage.
3. For the XQ1 hangar capacity showing 0 -> 8.. I actually don't see that! It's says 0-> 4 for me by default. Maybe you did one upgrade already and didn't realize it
4. Regarding the Maria and it's antimatter always being full, I've dropped the EMP Blast cooldown from 45 seconds to 30 seconds and it seems to be chewing nicely into the antimatter but leaving antimatter around for animosity and Armistice.
5. The MC80a having animosity is purely a lore decision. Just like some people doesn't like playing the Advent, the Alliance won't be for everyone. Survivability and the ability to retreat with their fleet intact is an Alliance race feature so if like coming in with guns blazing then maybe it's not for you. There are other tactics to the Alliance and without wanting to give too much away consider that the Alliance achieve a lot of it's success with hit and fade X-wing/B-wing strikes and less so on capital ships.
6. The Empire.... yes, it lacks the survivability and it's antimatter depletes fast.. but it is unsurpassed in it's ability to front-load superior damage in any battle. An Imperial fleet with a good mix of frigates, cruisers and capitals can devestate the critical support craft of enemy fleets very quickly. Imperial Interdictors can make escape very difficult. Tactics are key.

I've tried to put a lot more into this mod than purely changing visual and audio appearance. Balancing is by far the most difficult thing to do because like time travel everything you do affects everything else!

While I do appreciate all the feedback, can I ask you all one favour? Don't try to make the Alliance or Empire the "uber" race through zerg rushes or direct confrontations. Superior numbers and firepower may apply to the Empire... but I'm trying to get strike craft tactics, surgical targetting of primary threat craft and even retreat as a necessary tactic (plus much more) into the mod.

P.S. Does anyone here have any contacts in the 7DS mod team? I really wish I could get the Golan III mesh rotated 90% so I can get it into the 2.4 release... everything is done except for the mesh rotation issue.

There is now a v2.4 release which I'm hoping is bug-free patch... someone reported having an issue patching but it works fine for me. Can someone verify? PATCH 2.4: http://db.imperial.cc/show.cgi?id=sins&a=view&f=3&t=25

Check these out for anyone else having install/bugs:

Installation Help Post: http://db.imperial.cc/show.cgi?id=sins&a=view&f=2&t=4

Bug Report Readme Post: http://db.imperial.cc/show.cgi?id=sins&a=view&f=4&t=12