Hello, My family's computers all use the same router, so theres 4 or 5 computers all eating up bandwidth at any given time. So this makes my online games Extremely laggy, and that is a bit of a problem. now I wondered if it would lower my ping if I get a second router and connected it to the same modem and ran just my computer off that. Is that possible? Thank you
Some of the real experts on the subject will be along to help but I think your main problem is bandwiidth, unless you can increase that I don't thinki adding an additonal router is going to help you any. Keep in mind that I could be totally wrong.
Philly is correct. Adding another router will do nothing for the pings going to your external (Internet) connection. The bottleneck is your broadband connection. What are your upgrade options?
Edit the QoS policy in the router so that their bandwidth is a lower priority/lower cap than yours. This is of course assuming that you're the only one running ping-intensive games, but you can edit it on a per-computer/connection basis if that's not the case.
Both Philly and Phoon are correct that the problem arises when attempting to share the internet connection amongst that many people-or rather, amongst that many people who all act like the connection is theirs and theirs alone. Upgrading the connection would help, but so would my suggestion.
Do note that bandwidth (download/upload speed) and ping are entirely separate from each other; I could have a connection that lets me download at 30MB/s and still have a ping of 500ms if the connection is particularly terrible, or alternatively if I'm close to my ISP (and whoever I'm pinging) geographically I could pull 50ms on a 256kbit connection.
(Interesting tidbit-Phoon's reply wasn't up while I was typing this, but my system threw a BSOD.)
Just have to like a community that allows it members to offer help to one another.
Haha thanks for the help guys, We have a pretty good internet connection its some form of comcast high speed/broadband. I think I'll try what Sole Soul said. How exactly would I edit the QoS Policy?
from your routers configuration page. for a linksys router the page is 192.168.1.1 (think that is pretty standard though regardless of the router) typing this IP into your web browser address bar will bring up the router configuration options. though you will have to have the user/password to access it.
the QoS is located in the applications & gaming menu.
I am personally not quite sure how to limit bandwidth for wireless devices, but you can easily limit those that are wired to LAN ports 1-4 on low or high. You could also grab your PCs MAC address and set it in the devices section an assign it a Highest priority.
or you can try just optimizing your games ports in the applications portion so that when those ports for online gaming are active they have a higher priority.
Never really used it myself so Sole Soul may have better direction than I can give you but this is where to find the options anyway.
If I remember correctly on most routers you can only limit/prioritize it for all wireless clients, rather than setting it individually.
I'd tell you for certain, but I can't access my router anymore. The config page won't load (I don't even get a login prompt), but I can ping it. I wonder what the hell's going on...
192.168.1.1
192.168.0.1
192.168.2.1
It's one of the 3. Linksys is always 1.1, I'm pretty sure netgear is usually 2.1 although it's been a while since i've owned one.
Look in your manual the the address the modem will have - it may not be one of the ones listed above. e.g. the two Billion modems I have both are 192.168.1.254
Two billion modems...
Just some extra thoughts on this... I have seen some old routers that can get CPU bound under heavy load. If that's the case, a better router WOULD speed things up.
It's not typically the case, though. The liklier problem is that they're just using a lot of your connection. Two things in particular:
1. If everybody is wireless, the channel can get clogged (same if a lot of wireless routers are in your area). Hooking your computer up using a wired connection will give better gaming performance.
2. P2P programs like BitTorrent clients do a lot of uploading. On a typical home broadband connection, upload is worse then download for your speed, by far. There's technical reasons why, but they don't matter for your purposes. The point is that people should shut these programs down while you're gaming, or at the very least set upload speed caps well below your maximum upload speed.
In my case for example, if I set my upload speed cap to 40 KB/s and let it upload, I get an increase in latency that is annoying, but not too bad. If I let BT upload at 60 KB/s instead, gaming is impossible. My download speeds are over 600 from a good server, so you can see just how badly upload affects things.
After prolonged uptime, Linksys routers seem to have this thing where the config pages get progressively slower until they stop working at all. Unplugging the router then plugging it back in fixes it.
And for anybody not sure of your router's address:
Open a command prompt.
Type: tracert www.stardock.com
The address that comes up on the first line of the trace results will be your router.
Ahhhhhhhhh.
Yeah, it's been a while. I was thinking it may have had something to do with a certain someone spilling something on it as well, but I'll be pleased if that has not been detrimental. You were spot on with the slowing down beforehand, though, so hopefully that's it. I'll check it later-it's not really hurting anything as is.
get a router with a serial port. connect a 56k enternal modem. get dial up service for $5 a month and put the family on that router. then you have the broadband to yourself.
Modems of all kinds loose sync and it does degrade the service - that's why you should reboot them every so often. dsl is just a lot of modems at different frequencies, so I believe it also happens here.
As for 2 devices, you're better doing what Sole Soul suggested and using QoS. It's known as Quality of Service for what it does, but used to be called CoS class of service, which describes what you are doing. You know those port numbers you need to punch through your firewall... they're used here to define service.
You say for example you want your xbox traffic to have priority over bittorrent, you'd configure your router/firewall to give port 3074 (xbox) a higher priority over 6881-6999 (bittorrent). bittorrent will then download slower, but lag critical things then always work. That is how your average network engineer would do it Sure, you can do it via IP addresses, or even MAC's depending on your hardware, but traditionally the industry has looked at traffic rather than individuals. Again, wireless to a network device is just an interface so these can be applied here. To be honest, unless your in a large wireless enviroment it's your physical connection to the ISP that's the bottleneck.
To do this check your manual, every vendor does it differently, and that's before we even get to the interface! Manuals generally have the default IP addresses in and default passwords in. Reading these is apparently is part of what made Kevin Mitnick such a great hacker. Otherwise tracert as Tridus suggested generally finds it (unless it's in bridging mode).
EDIT: just seen DauntlessAnsible reply - that works too....
Ok so I got to the QoT setup page, but I really dont know what to do from there. It looks like this
Help Please?
as I said above others may be able to help you better, but some Ideas are...
first click the radio button for enable
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Device Priority Section
in the Device Priority section you could specify your computer by entering its MAC address. to find your MAC address go to...
start menu > run > type "cmd" without quotes to get the command prompt window.
in cmd prompt type "ipconfig /all" (again not quotes and leave 1 space between ipconfig and /), hit enter
find the Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection, under this section the "Physical address" is your PC MAC address. it will be formatted in 6 sets of 2 digits (numbers or letters) separated by a hypen (-) such as XX-XX-XX-XX-XX-XX.
enter each 2 digit combination in the MAC address field of the router config page. set the priority to Highest.
Not sure if the device name matters, you can probably just enter Resist_the_dawn_PC or something.
also not sure if this method works with wireless connections.
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Ethernet Port Priority
will ONLY effect connections that are wired to the 1-4 LAN ports on the router. so if you have 2 or 3 systems wired you can set yours to high and the others to low.
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Application Priority
you can specify a game (or app) you play online, set the priority to high and specify the port the game uses.
when that port is active the router will give it a higher priority.
make sure to click the "save settings" button at the page bottom or the setting won't apply.
Haha that did it! Thanks alot Everyone
Good information! I think I have the same router. Time to de-prioritized my kids computers.
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