Hi, just wanted to drop this on the forum, as many people have had issues with the latest version of Object dock plus having non working start menu and sys tray functions, in Vista x64.
I know many have fixed it by installing SDC, removing objectdock and installing the "old" beta version.
Anyway, after some investigation with the beta I have found the relevant files that you can just drop into your current ObjectDock installation folder and get those functions back, without the hasle of SDC client and reinstalls etc.
It consists of replacing the .exe, and 2 dll's, and adding 2 new dll's from the beta client (no dll registration required) these are from object dock plus, as thats what i have, dont know if it will work with the free version but you can try !
close objectdock plus down, replace the files in C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock\ObjectDock, and then restart your PC.
BEFORE YOU REPLACE THE FILES, RENAME OR BACKUP YOUR ORIGINALS, so you can revert if it gets screwed up.
(this has been edited, I cannot host the files due to licence and redistribution, my post below includes a list of the files to replace)
Rogue_Mafia
Half my argument is that ALL you have to say that it doesn't work on x64 systems is a measily 32bit notice in the system requirements. It's absolutely pathetic and it worries me that other people don't feel the same, considering the amount of people that post in this very forum complaining that they've bought the product, only to find that the feature is "coming soon" according to the program and "whenever we feel like it" according to the forums.
Surely you can't contest that point. I'm happy enough at the moment that I've got it to do what I want but other not so tech savvy people are going to want the files mentioned in the OP so they can quickly get the program to do what THEY want.
You've got to be kidding. You can't even read a 'Requirements' disclaimer.
Tell you what....
1- Get a refund (life is too short).
2- Turn off your computer (it's that pesky "life is too short" shit again).
3- Don't let the forum door hit you in the ass.
Internet, serious business for the forum goers at Stardock. Don't blow this out of proportion when it really isn't needed - I'm just voicing my concerns and feel it's wrong to have one tiny little notice that reads it, considering the amount of people that HAVE posted here saying "WTF IT DOENZT WERK?!" over the period of oh-so-many-months.
Is it really THAT much to ask that a public release is made for JUST x64 to tide us over till whenever the illusive v2.0 is released or at least a little bit of a better warning? Obviously it seems so, considering the amount of negative responses my posts have attracted.
*sigh*
Insulting the entire forum is most likely not a brilliant strategy.
Tongue in cheek. Certain people want to take things too seriously so they seem to take any negativity straight to heart.
I would love this fix...or whatever work around as I haven't been able to get it to work... I uninstalled objectdock plus... let impulse install it... then uninstalled it again to turn the "pre-release" versions available before I tried to install it again. But the problem is that I can't get a newer version of ObjectDock Plus. The version I have now is 1.90 Plus Build 535u. I can't seem to get any beta editions. What can I do? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
But shouldn't that be mentioned on the Page where one is most likely to decide whether to buy or not, namely this one ?
https://www.stardock.com/products/objectdock/downloads.asp#download
There ain't the tiniest hint on 32/64 Windows ...
Thanks for bringing that to light. It is noted on the store page for the product here: https://store.stardock.com/product.aspx?productid=ESD-SDS-W115 and under the system requirements tab here: https://www.stardock.com/products/objectdock/
https://forums.wincustomize.com/344490/page/1/#2116119
I currently run windows xp pro 64, I would expect any or all windows apps to work in 64 bit (xp/vista) , sense processors that are 32bit are extinct, regardless, OD dos work with limits, that I can handle for a FREE app. My question is this, is the issue fixed in the plus version or not and if not, don't spend the money.
LOL!! I mean... ROFL... Bwahahahaa....
I'm sorry, but apparently you didn't use 64bit long enough to know how things REALLY are... While it's getting better on 64bit support, most apps still run 32bit. I've yet to see the first 64bit game.
Correct most apps run 32bit; do to back words compatibility that is in 64bit processors (thanks AMD), and OS support for this, this makes for lazy coding of apps, this also do to business that use poorly coded apps, or just out dated. This in turn hurts the non commercial user, and OD is a good app, that could be a great app, I still use it, just as is... but would you run a v8 like a 4cyl.? Got the muscle use it.
its hard to be another program causing OD+ itself to say that the features are not supported in the 64bit version when you try to select those fetures in the options
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like real chutzpah coming onto a Forum owned by Stardock and explaining to folks how to hack the software sold by that firm. The system requirements are clearly stated. Use it or don't. Be patient for official releases of proprietary software, or don't. But don't come on this Forum and tell Stardock how to run it's business in public.
You could have handled this in email/pm with the developers/Moderators/Admins, but you chose a public Forum. Other sites would have exiled you without a warning. Island Dog chose to be kind to you. Be grateful.
So... dunno if ya already seen that, but if you don't wanna make a mess with that fix script, all you have to do is look for:
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
And make a shortcut on your dock for that location. Select the Dock Entry properties and activate "Show folder in a menu".
Change the icon and Voila! You've got all your programs listed down...
Obviously, it's not as graphic as the Start Menu, but it's practical, and if you've got the same start-button-showing-error i've had with the script (not so bad, but very uncomfortable) then it could be useful.
I post this, 'cause I've haven't seen it before... Hope is useful for you.
Regards.
Gens.
I feel the pain of the people complaining about stardock.....I have been using their software as an OD subscriber for a while now....they are very good at teasing their customers with the promise or implication that they will soon have updated software and never or after a very long wait they finally post an update....
WinFX-----been waiting for a vista compatible version for ever.
OD+-------same thing.....if they have a beta version through SDC then why not have it available on Impulse?
They seem to abandon their long time customers who patiently wait for updates to current programs but instead they work on new software for Windows 7......I am sure there are a lot of us that are very interested in software that works on XP or Vista......and not for 7.
I for one will not be resubscribing when mine expires......They have made to many "coming soon" statements then never produce anything.......so if you buy the OD software thinking that with patience you will be rewarded.......prepare to be let down over and over again....I won't be fooled again.
I have to wholeheartedly agree with this statement (except for the part about Windows 7).
Stardock are very good at wetting everyone's appetite. It has been years since a stable update has been made for OD+. Betas and alphas aren't good enough. Give us a stable update. There are lots of bugs and compatibility issues to be fixed. The number of threads and posts in messiah's thread are a testament to that. Yes, I know Jeff posted an update 2 months ago saying that after Impulse's update next month OD will get the love it has been missing. However, lots of bug reports have been filed since then and no response from the devs, no feedback, nada, zilch. I hope nobody's going to come up with "Well if they spend all of their time reading the forums then where will they find the time to fix the aforementioned problems?". Saying that is silly. It really won't take them all day to write a couple of lines a few times a week. It just feels that there is no appreciation for all this testing that us paying customers are doing.
I know SD have been plagued with problems (Demigod anyone?), but a good company needs to maintain strong presence on all fronts. If there's more work that needs to be done then hire more people, pay people for overtime, do whatever it is that's necessary. I'm not trying to tell Stardock how to run their business, I'm outlining an attitude that they appear to lack. If they had it then I wouldn't be waiting over 2 years for an update for OD+.
It's really frustrating. I'm not a happy customer. Just like the poster above, I'm seriously considering whether to upgrade to OD+ 2.0 when it's released. Currently, the only motivation I have is to have a piece of software that's bug-free, because it has not been like that in a very long time.
Stardock has released more software than they can handle, it's quite obvious. And it's a shame, because the software really *was* top notch, and deserve further development.
Wow, this has to be the only place on the internet I've ever seen where people are actually agressively against someone presenting a fix to get an application to work properly. "OMG DON'T SHOW PEOPLE HOW TO 'HACK' STARDOCKS SOFTWARE TO MAKE ALL THE FEATURES WORK!" and all that.
From some of your tones, I assume that you feel that literally no software at all should ever run on x64 versions of windows without having 7 foot tall flaming letters reading "WE WON'T BE MISSING FEATURES IF YOU RUN US ON X64" plastered across them? I mean, I know early in Vista's lifecycle (and XPx64 before it) there were a lot of things that were broke in x64 windows, but it's frankly been a long while since I've had trouble with it in general -- then again the only things in XP x64 that ever failed for me were hardware lacking drivers, and software that installed itself as a driver (Daemon Tools, for example).
The above about hacking od to make it work...
Ok, yes its wrong... but when a application in fact doesnt work...then all the issues are moot.
if a application is stated as not compatible but somebody comes up with a work aaround...then so be it.
The law wont protect non-working aspects of existing product.
Ie if one person creates something but the something is not working ...but somebody else makes it work. Thats ok.
Bad is if the else person then markets it or similar... besides, if u are only modifying your own pgm and you know what u are doing...then the concerns are irrelevant.
Signed:
A person who once wrote his own version of early windoze 3.1 (and amiga os and APPLE OS (II not mac).
I consider the issues to be one of 'them being overloaded' because they could easily do workarounds and use that till they get it fixed.
Fortunately there are 'startmenu' workalikes that will work somewhat similar
I agree with you. I took the requirements as minimums, not maximums. Didn't occur to me that 32 bit meant 32 bit only, although that would be a stupid minimum since even W95 was 32 bit. "Will not run properly on 64 bit" would have been a nice disclaimer. Fixing these two minor issues would be even better. How long does it take to recompile OD+ targetting a 64 bit processor/OS?
Ive been using VistaStartmenu almost since i started using stardock...
It does the job, though i would still prefer a complete replacement of the 'windows' start menu' still.
As far as 64bit veruss 32bit..
On my 64bit quadcore vista64 system with 6gig, I have a huge amount of 32bit and older applications running and much of it with no customization at all...
I even have some old windows 3.1 still... and even older stuff in some cases.
Naturally when I find a better version of a application or etc, i replace it, but I tend to retain all my past stuff on cd's.
Example:
I have had every version of OFFICE since the beginning, but run the latest when possible.
In the startmenu issue, its more about stardock laziness or incapability especially when you can google the alternatives and try each one out.
I tried several and chose the one I liked most. and though I have to still retain the 'original' windows taskbar still, its getting me there.
The only thing keeping me from hiding the windows task bar totally, is the rightmost task items are not showing in stardock when active apps do.
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