I currently have Object Dock Plus and am about to switch to rocket dock because I really want the start menu and taskbar for objext dock but it isnt supported in the 64-bit windows. When is it goint to be released, if ever?????
Well, switching to rocketdock won't give you a start menu and taskbar in OD+ for your 64bit windows... And it'll be done when it's done. They gave us dates last year they didn't manage to keep, so I'm quite happy they're not trying to give more dates to break.
I'm running vista 64 ultimate
Should have been indicated 32-bits only on the info page... I wouldn't have paid for the plus version if I knew that all the features I paid for do not work on my system. Decieving.
it does.........copied from the product page.......
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Object Dock was downgraded back in September... There have been no bugfixes produced in the last SEVEN months.
Is there ANY idea if Object Dock is going to be fixed, especially for us Vista 64bit users?
I support where all of you are complaining. However.. I also have ObjectDock Plus and I'm running it on Windows Vista Ultimate (64-Bit).. Besides the Start Menu and Taskbar functionality not working for it.. It works perfect...
As stated above.. Says it doesn't work fully with 64-Bit OSes.. Even still, how is it deceiving? Works perfectly as a regular dock and also tabbed dock?...
Really worth it to get this worked up over start menu and taskbar functionality? Wow...... Don't want to seem I'm bashing on a fellow customer like myself for just "wanting" a feature that's in the 32-Bit version.. But damn.. 99% of the program still works.. Enjoy it, had it not been for Stardock ensuring that much.. We'd have nothing to use even anywhere close to it's functionality.
Um, why has no one mentioned that System Tray and Taskbar support DOES work with Object Dock Plus on 64 bit Windows Vista. I'm using it now!
This problem was solved in this thread https://forums.wincustomize.com/331379/page/1/#1988943 back in December.
Here was my description of the fix, which requires you download Stardock Central...
Okay, I was able to get it to work thanks to a combination of what people have said above.
1) Uninstall OD+ 190.033 from within Impulse
2) Reboot
3) Using SDC, install 190i[b].020
4) Run OD+ from the Start menu etc (wouldn't run from SDC directly for me).
5) Be happy.
I manually made sure "Enable MCP notification area support" and "Enable MCP SmartStartup" are CHECKED in the SDC/Tools/Settings/General tab, but I don't know if that is required. I did this in SDC before rebooting above, just fyi.
I now have Start Button and System Tray on Zooming docks support under Vista 64 Ultimate.
I hope this helps and again, thank you to Wally3k, et al, for their helpful comments.
PS I have NO idea why Stardock support isn't providing this fix for people when they ask about it.
Dunno.. but good question.. *bump*.. Thanks for the fix Excalpius.... I Guess I should have looked around more for that thread,.. well done!
Kind of is upsetting this isn't common knowledge.. Wonder why?...
Well, to be honest, these forums have a pretty crappy search/results paradigm. In order to find the thread, I went to Google, searched, and that finally found the thread I wanted so I could come back here, hehe
Either way, credit goes to everyone in that thread who finally reasoned it out, and we're glad to help always.
Let me know if this works for you. So far it's batting 100%!
So you don't have to hunt for a link to it, you can download SDC from here.
Perhaps the code monkeys are waiting for Windows 7 release before proceeding. I beta tested Win 7 a bit and it's a hell of a lot better than Vista in so many ways. It is a PITA to have to keep the task bar visible to have one start menu available but then again, I didn't like RocketDock for some reason. It did something to the system (but I can't remember what it was at the moment) that was not cool.
- Right click on the MY COMPUTER docklet and try to Manage. OOOOps!- Click the RUN docklet and run CMD.EXE... Hrm, not the same CMD.EXE I get when I click START->Run->CMD.EXE
well for me... until some of these things are fixed...the existing way is still better.
Yes I want objectdock to fully work on vista64.
Until the start menut and other items are working i have to keep both objectdock and taskbar going.
Another is that i use various pgms where u pop them up via systray, (ie not run another instance).
I cant do that with objectdock...
Oh well, so close yet so far.
And yes this is on the free version..but i have no intention of paying a penny till i see it working.
Funny, I would pay $150 for a fully functioning objectdeck with other goodies added in also.
Gues they dont want to make more $$.
Btw, the above comment comes from a developer (me) ..and Ive done 64bit similar 'though low quality' startmenu replacements... and..
Ie; meaning that ive devleoped stuff for 64bit...usually still doing it in 32bit... but making it work.
It doesnt have to be in 64bit to work on 64bit.
We all know that, I got applications as old as windows 3.1 running on my vista64 (6gigram,1000Gig HD)... pc.
No, but it should be.
No, not neccessarily.
To run on 64bit its not a requirement that it be in 64bit.
Properly written code will work on 64bit even if its windows 3.1 applications.
I should know Im actually still running both games & apps from those days.. including some I wrote myself.
But then my stuff has always worked on every platform since the begginning.
Agreed that if I have a 64bit app I will prefer it over one that isnt.. .but its only that its been tested and works on 64bit..
Not all apps need to be 64bit to be of value to a 64bit user... For some apps its simply wasteful. On others not doing 64bit would be dumb.
It all depends on what you are trying to do.
You can run 64 bit apps from a 32 bit app, but you cannot start a 64 bit app that is located in System32 (as 32 bit apps see SysWow64 instead of System32 when they attempt to access System32). I believe a 64 bit app can launch from any other location without a problem.
Regarding apps having to be 64 bit, an app should only be 64 bit if it is required. There is no point making an app 64 bit if all you gain is an app which uses more memory. If your app needs the additional memory space, or is very performance critical then yes it can be worth it, but otherwise an app should remain 32 bit. Thats why things like Impulse and the config UIs for WindowBlinds and Deskscapes remain 32 bit.
Oh and a Windows 3.1 app would not work under 64 bit as Win 3.1 apps were 16 bit and I believe 16 bit apps only work on the 32 bit version of the OS, not the 64 bit one.
Which is one of the reasons why MS put XP mode in the Professional version of Win 7.
Very dissapointing that after all these years, they can't simply recompile their code to utilize 64 bit.
The product is crippled without a start menu, and arguably without the system tray. You can also no longer download the beta which at least had the system tray working under the new spamwawer Impulse software. The adds are irritating as hell.
Startdock is quicly losing all appeal.
What ads?
Supporting 64 bit is not always a simple case of rebuilding the code as 64 bit. Anything which sets Windows hooks requires a much larger set of changes due to how Windows handles 32 bit processes on a 64 bit OS.
I am using ObjectDock Plus on Win7 64bit. When I loaded the system tray it popped up a message saying it would not work, but then it went right ahead and works just fine. The only thing I have not been able to use on ObjectDock Plus is the start menu button, but since the start menu button on my keyboard works, I don't see that as a serious problem. System Tray and task bar both work, and I have faith that the start Button will eventually work.
I bet it depends on context.
Im still runing Windows 3.1 games on my Vista 64... and yes they were mostly games.. but still work perferctly.
Excluding games I still have a handfull of apps Im still using running, and have never failed me.Others failed in terms of directx or similar (some would succeed with tricks of changes to files it used.
Others woudl require hacks or replacement over time.
My oldest favorite is classic Startrek (Jaworski)..
Obviously many high end games or etc... definately or even high end database stuff I would agree.
While there are other apps (win3.1) that would require virtualization or some varient of emulation...im running about 10 old games that are win95b or older... with no changes to code or method to run them..
If you think pure code, then yes, 16bi
Btw, simply recompling is not always the answer.. though Im sure they might have tried it and hit some brick walls.
Ive been successful and failed on recompiles of past efforts... Most successful was taking a OLD app written in C+ and recompiling it with current stuff (some minor changes) and it worked fine... Others took too much work to bother with recompile soley.
As far as start menu, agreed the keyboard 'windows' button is how i am ignoring the objectdocks lack of a startmenu on 64bit.
Instead of doing a 'socalled' startmenu' .. is there in windows (question to stardock')...a simple way to execute a keyboard press such as the windows button.. that would be a workaround, wouldnt it?
EVEN SO, till I see it actually work without buying it, I wont buy..
Its better to have a time limit on product than to have a product not working in part.
I would rather see a product working, and may even more than normal price than to have a limited capability product and have to takeonfaith that it will work when purchased.
Even Microsoft has trial but full capability on their stuff...
Meaning a time limit or similar..
Shoot If I saw it working I would buy a multi-pc license (for up to 8 pc's - All family) and pay up to $250 for a family pack if possible.
But with it working only in part, I figure its zero $$ till I see it work.
As it is even with the 'startmenu' workaround, and the systray only working to show current apps and not all the systray icons... is not good enough even so to totallly eliminate the 'windows taskbar.
Till then its not worth paying for..
Btw, on my dell laptop I did replace the DELLDOCK with objectdock.
(PC is 64bit vista, laptop is 32bit vista but is 64bit capable).
With win7 or other I figure on going 64bit in full on both (per database work and other, i do have need to be that)>
Ive actually had a vista 32 bit pc (same model/brand) of a friends (was reconfiging it for him) and even without doing database work I found the vista 64bit pc working a lot faster and better than the same pc (32bit)..
Yes some apps no difference.. .but overall my 64bit pc was running faster/better most of the time.
I just started using objectdock and realized I'm losing my system tray and start menu options. Pretty major functions to lose in windows. I purchased objectdock plus so I don't want to downgrade it to get those options.
How long has this been going on? I see threads going back to 2008. That leads me to assume it's not a priority and that I should just drop it and ask for a refund.
This is fucking insane. It has been over 5 years since the last 32-bit system was sold. If this is never getting fixed, they need to remove the "This will be added" message and they need to refund my money because they sold me software that doesn't work, and I've been waiting FUCKING YEARS for it to start working.
Um?? I have running OD in WIN7 x64 with Startmenu and sysray pluings without problem........
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