I've seen reports online that claim that Obama has a pretty high IQ, that according to many he is a very inteligent and well educated person. Probably the smartest President ever (anyways). But President Obama has had his moments that one can not easily ignore. Remember the 57 States Obama was talking about? Sure, everyone makes mistakes, but then President Bush was never given any slack for all his mistakes.
Obama's latest fumble came yesterday in his Address to Congress. This is what he said:
"I believe the nation that invented the automobile cannot walk away from it."
We invented automobiles? Mr President, as the foxnews.com article put it "his grasp of automotive history suggests he could use a refresher course". There are several posibilities as to who truly invented the automobile according to some websites. But none put the US as first on the list to invent the automobile.
I'm sure many here will cry about me knit-picking Obama's comments, but I guess it will take one to know one. All is fair in love and war... and politics. To you I say, don't dish out criticism if you not ready to have it dished back.
Obama gets an early start on Obamaisms.
Just a quick point...
IQ has something to do with it but it's not a reason to call him smart. I doubt his IQ is higher than mine and I graduated high school with a 2.5 GPA that I had to bust my ass to get. He may be well educated and have a high IQ but that doesn't make him smart.
Cut him some slack on the little things. He has already done more to make those of us who work hard and make good decisions pay for those who don't than any president in history. We don't need to tear him apart. He is in self destruct mode already.
True, I got that idea, I believe, from an ad I saw here on JU asking if we thought we were smarter than Obama, to check it out. I never did, I was smart enough to know not to bother with such ads.
Just a little. Don't want him to get use to getting more from me too.
Can you imagine the uproar if Bush had made that statement?
Yeah, Bush was shown no tolerance for slips of the tongue. It was pretty low. Even though I was not much of a fan of Bush, it was pretty disgusting to hear the insults thrown at him for verbal mistakes. Nobody even cares when Obama makes a mistake.
Honestly though, Obama probably meant to say that America invented the modern automobile industry, not the automobile itself. Jumping on this just exhibits the same kind of behavior that was so repulsive in the liberals for the past eight years. Ignoring things like this and focusing on issues that matters would go further than anything in restoring the conservative name.
The American people will wise up and dump this guy harder than Milli Vanilli
prolly well-educated enough to avoid authoring an article questioning another's education and/or intelligence, entitling it: "so just how well educated ____target____ is?.
george w. bush would be proud of you son. your use of language is a testament to his legacy.
btw, what happened to that whole obama/moses thing with the staff? it seems to have disappeared.
Had issues with the image on the article. Gave me so much hassle I just trashed it. I apologize bee for deleting your comment on it as well.
I can. Bush was never really given a fair chance, he was punched at every turn. It's one thing to dislike a President and his policies, but many people were willing to sacrifice this countries image even more than Bush was just to give him a kick in the balls.
Everyone makes mistakes and when talking in front of hundreds, thousands or millions of people, even the best speaker can fumble a word or 2.
Keep in mind this is not one of those blogs where I will keep track of Obama's every mistake (Biden's maybe cause the guy is just too funny, like his recent "internet website number" blunder he said the other day), but I was trying to make a point of how (as you put it) repulsive it was when it was done to Bush over and over for stupid little things and how it sucks when the shoe is on the other foot. This is sorta like giving them a taste of their own medicine.
Thank you for your wisdom bee, I never claimed to be more educated than Obama and I never claimed the title or bodies of my articles would be written to be approved by a college professor before posting. Besides, I'm not the one in the highest position in this country, it's not expected of me to be "Mr Perfect".
What goes around comes around.
Or if Al Gore had said he invented the internet?
Hah, that's the good old self-delusion and hubris combo. He didn't get half of what he deserved for that one.
I'm with kingbee. If you're going to mock someone else's intelligence, at least show some yourself. It undermines you as a credible source when you show a terrible understanding of basic syntax in your accusations about someone else's syntax.
in the unlikely event obama ever mispronounces "nuclear", i sincerely doubt he'll persist in doing so or that even his most steadfast supporters would spend the next 7+ years celebrating such deplorable ignorance.
A few months ago, I was curious about Obama's vaunted academic record so I typed the words "Obama affirmative action" into my favourite search engine, here's the third hit I got, it literally took less than 5 seconds of research from this here barely sensate Canuck to uncover what the combined forces of over 300,000,000 Americans and media conglomerates with market cap in excess of over 9,000 dollars apparently could not:
"“I’d also like to add one personal note, in response to the letter from Mr. Jim Chen which was published in the October 26 issue of the RECORD, and which articulated broad objections to the Review’s general affirmative action policy. I respect Mr. Chen’s personal concern over the possible stigmatizing effects of affirmative action, and do not question the depth or sincerity of his feelings. I must say, however, that as someone who has undoubtedly benefited from affirmative action programs during my academic career, and as someone who may have benefited from the Law Review’s affirmative action policy when I was selected to join the Review last year, I have not personally felt stigmatized either within the broader law school community or as a staff member of the Review.”"
Barack Obama, Harvard Law Record, 1990.
http://media.www.hlrecord.org/media/storage/paper609/news/2008/10/30/Election2008/Record.Retrospective.Obama.On.Affirmative.Action-3515294.shtml
There you have it in Obama's own words, that he " undoubtedly benefited from affirmative action programs during my academic career". Why the expletive doesn't anyone report this?
Further "research" totalling well over 4 minutes uncovered that in Obama's time as editor of the review he published nada, highly anonmolous and even unprecedented for an editor of the most prestigious law school publication in the world. While most HLR editors go on to clerk for supreme court justices, Obama obtained a fairly junior position publishing an investment newsletter on Wall Street, where he famously observed that he felt like a "spy" behind corporate "enemy" lines.
Many have made fun of Bush's intellect, some have even been banned from certain sites for it , but at least Bush released his grades and, I believe, military testing records, and they indicated an average to slightly above average intellect (and I never bought W's Forrest Gump schtick in its entirety; whoever said "never attribute to malice that which can adequately been explained by incompetence" was probably in on the scam). Anyhoo, the same can't be said for the current Affirmative Action Scrub In Chief of the US of A; he hasn't released his grades or test scores, he's written few if any legal briefs, he needed affirmative action to advance his career, and his off the cuff remarks (clinging to guns and religion? w the f?) make me wonder if he is a few community organizers short of a mau-mau.
While most dictionaries do not list the pronunciation as correct, some recognize it because of its increased usage
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U.S. presidents that have used this pronunciation include Bill Clinton, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Jimmy Carter (who trained to be engineering officer on a nuclear submarine), and George W. Bush, as well as presidential candidate Walter Mondale and Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucular
I don't know how long those celebrations took for Eisenhower and I somehow don't see Jimmy Carter's supporters celebrating their hero's stupidity, but you could be right about the deplorable ignorance. An engineering office on a nuclear submarine should know the words. I have long detested Jimmy Carter and your point only adds to my reasons for thinking very little of him.
As for Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, I think both of them are simply unfamiliar with the technology, as most people are, and pronounce words as they hear them, as most of us do. Depending on how technical one's friends are one could end up with anything, really. Apparently Clinton and Bush share the types of friends Carter had. Of course neither Bush nor Clinton ever worked in an environment where one would hope that colleagues had great knowledge of the particular discpline we worry about.
DaffidSantosHubina,
Very, very good points!
Odds are Obama will not make such mistake, but then that why Biden was chosen for VP right?
I never put myself as a credible sourse, that is why I linked to the article itself. Perhaps you missed that part. I have never denied having flaws and making mistakes, but then I'm not the one who's seeing as very well educated, the leader of the free world and someone not like President Bush.
IQ, intelligence quotient with regards to modern education.
First designed to test for challanged students in highschool, and then revised 6 times, each still for testing challanged students.
The idea is:
(Educational typical age / Physical Age) * 100
So a 15 year old with the education capability of a typical 30 year old has an IQ of 200.
The definition gets a bit muddy because it does not specifically test for knowledge, things like pattern recognition, shape recognition, language puzzles, etc are used. So its not a matter of what degrees you have, but how much "learning potential" you have in traditional learning environment.
According to every person who had ever participated in the formation and defining of IQ it is not a measurement of intelligence, but a way to detect the existance of dificiencies, such as dyslexia or retardation. where further testing can find exactly what the issue is and help address it. AKA, IQ is only useful if it is under 100...
- Tal Tamir, IQ 170
PS. for comparison... when I just moved to the US I tried taking the mensa test, my english was poor and the test focused heavily on word puzzles, I got an IQ of 70, which would mean I needed a padded helmet had I been a native, for me however the "problem" was not retardation, or autism, or dyslexia, it was taking the test in a foreign language, my scores improved greatly since...
It was however fairly accurate, because during my first two semesters I studied 4-5 hours PER DAY (at home) and still only made C and B grades... by the third semester I was bringing home a lot of A's
So back to obama... I am not impressed with a 120 IQ claim:
1. Says who?
2. IQ doesn't really mean much.
3. Only 120? pathetic.
The fact is, we may never know how well he did in college. His academic record is but one of many, many things he's had sealed from public scrutiny.
Who can blame him, after what his 'friends' did to GW.
Of course we are all going to have fun with the "obamaisms"... at least as much fun as we had with the Bushisms, Goreisms and everybody else "isms". I doubt they say anything about anyone's intelligence, they are just good for laughs.
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