Negativism is killing us.
I travel extensively by car and listen to talk shows. After a year of listening to the right wing stations bash Obama (There are no Left wing Stations) I still have to listen to their voice of doom rants about the government.
The talk show guru Rush Limbaugh says: "I hope Obama Fails". Now isn't that a great attitude? Why can't everyone give the President a chance and at least stop the negativism about everything he does.
I have had to stop listening to talk shows because it is depressing. For once I would like to hear the Rush Limbaugh's of the world come up with suggestions on how to help the country instead of just tearing it down.
The Shaun Hannity's of the industry are mired in pessimism, hostility and non objective oration for the sake of stimulating listeners. They have lost this listener and hopefully many others.
It is time for America to rally together. The Republican stand against the stimulus bill wherin not one voted for it in the house, is shameful. I have a friend who lost his job and is about to lose his house and his only hope is the stimulus bill, particularly as it pertains to Health Care and workers unemployment payments.
The Republicans lost the majority because they didn't listen to what the public is shouting out for. They haven't learned and are continuing to do so and causing the country great harm.
Let's get positive!!!
(It can't hurt)
Ken
This will be the mindset when free speech is ripped from the radio.
Ken.
Please.
You have not listened well if you listened at all to talk radio.
Taking Rush's words out of context makes me wonder if you write from Democrat talking points. I heard that episode in its entirety. He wasn't hoping Obama failed as you make it out. He is hoping Obama's Socialism fails. That is a big difference.
I never really cared much for Rush, but ya know what? Talk radio is one of the few places you can get any REAL news, so I listen to a bit of it every day to counter the Obama-bots currently claiming "journalism" as a career.
Why is it negative to point out mistakes? And where oh where was this condemnation when the libs did it to Bush? They didn't just criticize his ideology, they often attacked the man with personal insults.
I don't hear talk radio doing that. Even when Rush refers to Obama as the Messiah, he is using words many of Obama's supporters have used.
Look, no matter who is in the White House....when the dissent and criticism stops.....then we are REALLY in trouble.
Just turn it off and let the rest of us make the decision for ourselves.
"There are no Left wing Stations" - What about Air America?
Randy Rhodes, Alan Colmes, what planet you live on? I love it when people complain about there not being enough Liberal radio shows yet there is only one Conservative new station on TV, FoxNews.
It is negative to point out mistakes and not offer anything in place of them.
Saying "Well, you screwed up!" and offering no constructive criticism or different plans of action accomplishes nothing but a bloated sense of self satisfaction that comes from pointing it out.
Want to fix problems? Then offer new solutions rather than just shitting on everyone else's.
Although I think conservatives are just leaping at the chance to tear down liberals since they had 8 years of tearing down Bush. People are simple like that.
~Zoo
For the record I've heard a LOT of different alternatives on talk radio to the stimulus fiasco. The simplest goes like this...let people keep their taxes for 6 months. That will stimulate the economy and benefits people who are actually working.
I disagree with your statement. (Is that being negative? By your reasoning I am being negative unless I offer you an alternative, so here it is. Agree with everything I say. )
More simply, you can taste a pie I bake, and tell me it isn't good without having the faintest idea how to change the recipe. It doesn't make your criticism any less valid. Does it make it negative? Yes by definition, but so what? Doesn't change the reality of the pie.
Really?
I want to be wrong about Obama and his ideas. Saying "I told you so" while in the midst of turmoil doesn't make it any easier to stomach.
I want to be SO wrong I have to write a letter of apology.
The problem, as I see it, is that Democrats hear without listening.
We've spent the last 8 years, minimum, listening to Democrats wail about how it is their patriotic duty to dissent, acceptable dissent apparently including vile personal attacks. Get used to it, though Republicans are not nearly as good at it, in the sense of being sufficiently vile.
Well, then perhaps we should get some petitions and government backing going. Though I'm not sure if talk show hosts are well versed enough in economics to provide viable solutions. Ideas can sound good, but may fail in practice. (Like communism, for instance)
I suppose the tax cut thing could work...though people would probably stash that extra money away for awhile. The issue with giving money directly to people is that they're not necessarily going to do with it what you wish. You're banking on American consumerism, which is a pretty good bet, but it's not guaranteed to work.
No, disagreement isn't inherently negative...actually criticism doesn't have to be negative either. Criticism for criticism's sake is though. In other words, complaining just to hear myself complain is a real downer.
I'm not questioning validity. Anyone can criticize anything and it'll be valid as long as they have a reason behind it. (I don't like the policy or I don't like the pie because...) If policy or pie is bad, then criticize it because being critical should serve as a means of improving something you don't like.
(By the way, I'm sure your pies are fantastic. )
Well, not all conservatives are bad afterall. I've been seeing "I told you so"s pop up on this very site...which just reeks of smugness. Admittedly I do like a good "I told you so" but it's not helpful at all.
I like that quote above Zoo. That is one of the things I notice quite ofetn when people criticize other peoples opinions. Quite often I see people make a criticism with a "becasue behind it" but just as often I see criticism just for criticism sake. Those are the ones that drive me up the wall (which is probably the whole point of the criticism in the first place).
This is hillarious.
And what did the media and leftist radio do for the past 8 years? I agree with Rush, I hope Obama fails, and he already is. Why? Well because I don't want America to be a socialist nation, so by Obama failing, we can prevent that.
Republicans lost because they were acting like democrats, and Obama was elected because of a marketing slogan and race. It seems the majority don't want the "stimulus", but yet democrats and Obama continued to push it through, got a problem with that?
Ken, why don't you put on a music station and just forget about politics for the next four years. You've obviously chose not to hear any opposition to the president with an objective ear. I'm sure you can find assistance changing the station if needed.
Ken, good attempt, unfortunately doesn't work here.
the republicans lost because of racism (lets vote a black man because he is black) and because leeches get to vote (i am on welfare, and i am voting for the guy who promises me more money).
But yes, hoping barak obama fails is stupid, its like cutting your nose to spite your face. I HOPE he succeeds, but so far he has done nothing but blunder. The stimulus package is exactly the opposite of what we need (we need to cut expenses, not add expenses).
He has proven to be full of shit in his campaign promises, except for the really bad ones, those he does with gusto.
And he and his administration are openly racist "we must ensure that those new jobs we create do not go to white males"
The reason it doesn't work here is because it is yet another blatant example of 'do as I say, not as I do'.
"The talk show guru Rush Limbaugh says: "I hope Obama Fails". Now isn't that a great attitude? Why can't everyone give the President a chance and at least stop the negativism about everything he does."
If you believe the policies that Obama is/will implement are wrong for the country, why wouldn't you want him to fail in implementing those policies? I don't see the problem with the statment.
Double post.
Because you are wishing harm on yourself and the country as a whole in order to vindicate what you THOUGHT to be right. On the other hand, if you beleive him to be wrong and he succeeds then he prooved you wrong. It is a stupid thing to wish for and only a small man would do so. Which is apperantly what rush limbaugh is.
However I wish he would not implement those things which I know will fail. When he does anyways I wish they will succeed and proove me wrong, but I know better.
Kinda like I wish there really WAS a heaven despite being an atheist. I know better, and I am not gonna waste my time on obviously wrong wishful thinking, but darnit wouldn't it be nifty if it was real? (also magic, fairies, unicorns, etc). Maybe he should form an economic plan based on unicorns... it will be less DAMAGING to the economy then what he is currently doing, and is just as likely to succeed.
Speaking of stupid, this is just too much to pass up. Who the f*** says hoping his policies fail is 'wishing harm on yourself and the country as a whole'? The hope that his policies fail reflects a belief that his policies will harm the country.
What's stupid is believing that He (that's not an accidental H) should 'succeed' no matter what He does.
Rush explained it to that extent, but it's in the media's interest not to show it that part. It shows the influence of the MSM as folks will regurgitate whatever they say, for better or worse.
Well you know, "democracy" does literally mean "rule by the poor" if you look at the Greek roots.
IQ, are you sure that wasn't some joke someone told you (like, vegetarian is native american for "bad hunter").
Ok, maybe I am being stupid but how does that work? Lets say he implements a policy, we know its stupid and will never work, but he says it will raise employment. If it FAILS to deliver on HIS PROMISES then his policy fails and we are all poorer for it. If it succeeds that means we were WRONG about what we thought about the economy (pfft, I'd sooner get to ride a unicorn).
Unless you think it is his INTENTION to make everyone poorer?
Of course... that is only about the economy... in NON economic policy his intentions COULD be to do things that are inherantly stupid... for example his intentions might be to remove guns from law abiding citizens. Hoping such a plan fails is good because if it fails the citizens retain their guns, promoting freedom, lower crime, safety, etc.
Actually, yes, I see that now. It really matters of what you define his policies AS... if he says his intention is to remove guns to decrease crime... then I hope he succeeds in reducing crime and fails in removing guns. Becuase removing guns will increase crime.
Likewise if his policies are intenting to bring about socialism because he beleives that will make everyone richer. I hope he succeeds in making everyone richer, but fails in bringing about socialism because socialism will make everyone poorer.
Yes, you are being stupid. If a policy has a high probability of harming the country, I don't want it to 'succeed' in doing so, no matter the short-term advantage it may offer some.
daiwa, do us both a favor and read that post you replied to in its entirety.
No offense, taltamir. I have an issue with those who keep carping that we must hope He succeeds. I don't give a rip about Him, only what He does, and if what He does can cause harm, I hope He fails to achieve that harm. Also depends on how you define success. If success means the economy recovers when it would have anyway and we get even more oppressively pervasive and confiscatory federal micromanagement of our lives in the bargain, I don't want that 'success.'
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