This is the new PC.  You kill 10 so I'm allowed to kill 10.  You kill 50 so I'm allowed to kill 50.....as long as it's even it's ok.  This is crap and the new  modern way of war propelled by the media . 

This is exactly right RW.  You shouldn't be worried about numbers when you go to war.  War is war. The objective needs to be to stop the enemy from destroying you and yours.   And sad to say, innocents do sometimes get caught in the crosshairs.  

If Israel had done what they needed to do back then we wouldn't be having this conversation.  But because of the intense pressure over the years for Israel to back off their enemies it's dragging on and on and on.  Let them fight their fight and let us stay out of it.  They don't need any backseat drivers telling them how many they are allowed to kill in a war.   A few of  the surrounding countries are not saying much like Jordan, Saudia Arabia and Egypt.  In fact they are uncharacteristically silent  about Israel fighting back because they want Hamas gone just as much as Israel does.  For Hamas to gain any foothold in the Middle East spells trouble for the whole area.

And how many innocent Israeli children has Hamas and other terrorist groups murdered over the last 61 years? Or don't they count in your tally? If I were Israel, firebombing of the entire region would definitely be a carefully considered option.

We've supported Israel from the very beginning, and will until Doomsday; we have to. What we also should do, and have in the past, is to look the other way when they finally take serious steps to defend themselves. And shed no tears when people like you (no offense, but c'mon) wring their hands and cry for the ones who started it in the beginning.

"You dont win a war by dying for your country.  You win a war by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country!"

General George S. Patton.

Then smart people will think twice about attacking you, right?  And the stupid ones wont live anyway.

That's probably what they need to do.  That's war.  What do you think happened at Hiroshima?  Nagasaki?   The bloodshed stopped didn't it?   In order for war to stop, one has to completely overpower the other and be done with it. 

No what I'm saying is we need to stop telling Israel how to fight their war.  It's their war, not ours.  We don't live in the streets of Israel.   It's not our towns being bombed and our children fearful at night.  We were not the ones being bombed.

It would be like other countries telling us to sit down and have a diplomatic dinner party for those behind the 9-11 attacks instead of going after them.  Who are they to tell us how to handle our problem? 

Amen.

Your point being? If you want to extend the timeframe for deaths, make sure you do it for both rather than just one if you're just comparing death figures, unless you want to start comparing how many years of Israelis deaths you have to look at just to achieve a similar number as the amount of palestinian civilians killed within only a few weeks!

Oh do tell how all those little children killed by the Israelis connived together before they were born to start this mess! It's shocking just how low a value seems to be placed on a palestinian child's life compared to an Israeli's by you.

I didn't realise I had to specifically, since it was implicit in my post. Of course I think the use of human shields is wrong, just as I think the deliberate targetting of Israeli civilians by Hamas is wrong, and you won't have seen me argue otherwise anywhere. However that does not excuse Israel for stooping to similar levels by failing to take a bit more care over causing civilian deaths. Again, the % (and number) of children thought to be killed speaks for itself.

300 military combatants fighting 10,000 military combatants. No innocent civilians being murdered amongst them. No ~1/3 of deaths in the battle being children. That you would equate innocent civilian deaths with those of soldiers is very troubling - to me there is a clear difference.

What extremism, the extremism of hamas in defence of their liberty, or the extremism of Israel in defence of theirs? (good quote for shooting yourself in the proverbial foot btw)

After only 1 day? Talk about needy...

Hamas kills at least 90% innocent civilians and yet you complain about the 33% from Israel?

I agree the percentages speak for themselves.

The palestinian women and men are never civilians?!

An interesting question. Lets say you have a mass murderer, and a murderer. Which would you side with? (hint: it's a trick question). I prefer to side with the innocents myself, most of whom many of you seem to care almost nothing for. The hundreds of children (and other innocents) killed by the Israelis, as well as the handful of Israeli's killed by Hamas. Just a shame that so many of you not only dismiss the innocent palestinian deaths, but attack me for believing that they are worth something. Even worse, some of you would support Israel committing genocide against the palestinians. Believing Israel has a right to defend themselves, and a right to attack Hamas is one thing. Believing they shouldn't care about how many innocents get caught in the crossfire and shouldn't try to reduce the number of innocents killed is another thing altogether.

Really?  That is just waht the Greeks said.  The persians aid that there was thousands of innocent women and children.  and we have to believe them, right?  they would not lie about that now would they?

Well--and this is just an aside--you know, Abraham (a man, of course, whom Jews, Christians and Muslims, all three consider their common ancestor) was asked by (the Judeo-Christian) God for a sacrifice; to kill Issac as a test of faith. However, he was stopped, by God Himself, at the last second. How many people (including children younger than Issac was supposed to have been) has Allah asked his people to sacrifice? Just an observation, for what it's worth.

Look at the methods involved, maudlin; the Israelis have a disciplined, well-supplied, state-of-the-art military which, truth be told, mostly seems to prefer surgical strikes over more general attacks, versus a bunch of 10th century savages whose main weapons of choice often seem to be suicide attacks and rocks, thrown by people (including children) thoroughly brainwashed to hate, and to die violently for their bloodstained pagan god. Israel's weapons are much, much more lethal; therefore, they can kill more people! Understand?                                                                                                                                                                

In fact, if Israel wanted to imitate the Nazis, and methodically kill every last person in the enemy camp, they likely could. Yet, for 6 decades of unreasoning hate, unrest and mostly unprovoked violence, they've resisted that temptation. What does that level of restraint say for them, as opposed to their lesser enemies?

The Palestinian Jew-haters, on the other hand, have no actual "army" as Israel does; only (well-disicplined, I admit) groups of (again, brainwashed) men (and children) who'll run at Israeli tanks and troops (and innocent civilians) holding only a gun and a grenade or Molotov cocktail; or better yet, gleefully wrap themsevles in a nail-packed TNT vest and walk into a crowded restaurant full of innocent people.

Hamas has no real air support, for example, that I've ever heard of (forgive me if I'm wrong here, though), and only weapons often provided by other Jew-hating Arab nations who, in fact, don't like them any more than they like the Israelis. The Israelis rarely (if ever) attack their poor, displaced (still, after 60 years, right? Suuure; the last generation that was considered "displaced" is likely in its 70s or 80s by now, and living for years in houses and neighborhoods, instead of tents and prefab emergency structures, as the words "displaced refugees" would suggest) neighbors utterly without provocation, and even take much more abuse than they should before responding in kind.

This snide crap isn't really even worth a comment. But.....the Israelis aren't the ones using people for shileds against enemy fire. They clearly value human life infinitely more than their Muslim enemies, as befits their faith, as opposed to the Muslim paganism. Besides, if you really want to go back "before they were born", they're all descended from the same peoples; their ancestors, really, were all there together. the jews have just as much historical right to the area as the Palestinians who refuse to admit or allow this.

Gotta go for now; got furniture to move around, including this desk. Be back later.

that's not true.  Where sre you getting your information? 

Israel dropped leaflets warning the people of Gaza they were coming giving the innocents time to vacate or not send their kids near the places where Hamas has put their weapons...like schools and the hospitals. 

So bombing schools in this case is necessary if you're going after the cache of weapons.  But you left off the part about the pre-warning...

how convenient. 

its okay for you to launch multiple rockets into another country and all the should do is sit there and take it.... gesh where have you been?