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GalcivII Dark Avatar Crashes Again!

January 5, 2009 7:20:41 PM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Dear Readers,

I have received yet another issue with my Galciv II dark avatar game. This is the first time after the holidays that I have come back to play galciv II. Again I have experienced ANOTHER crash from the game. Do not get me wrong the game hardly ever crashes now that i've put it on my newer computer. I want to solve this issue by any means necessary, please if anyone has any idea as to getting it working, please by all means assist. The next post will be the debug information, thank you very much for your time.

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Reply #1 January 5, 2009 7:22:22 PM
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Debug Message:  Version v1.80g Dark Avatar last updated on: Wed Dec 19 15:10:23 2007
Debug Message:  Checking DX Version.
Debug Message:  *********DXDiag info follows.*********
System Info
Time: 1/4/2009, 19:03:23
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
Machine Name: DAVIS-ACER
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.080917-1612)
Languages: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Acer
System Model: Aspire X3200
BIOS: )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 8400 Triple-Core Processor (3 CPUs), ~2.1GHz
Physical Memory: 3838MB RAM
Page File: 1415MB used, 6479MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows


Display Info
Display device 1:
Device Name: \\.\DISPLAY1
Card Name: NVIDIA GeForce 8200
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip Type: GeForce 8200
DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
Key Device: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_084B&SUBSYS_01571025&REV_A2
Display Memory: 1904 MB
Current Display Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Max Resolution:
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2umx.dll, nvwgf2um
Driver Version: 7.15.0011.7824
Driver Date: 10/7/2008 13:33:00
DirectX Acceleration Enabled: Yes
 


Sound info
Sound device 1:
Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback
Default Voice Playback
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_10250157&REV_1002
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5591
Driver Date: 3/26/2008 04:36:28
Type: WDM
Other Drivers:
Acceleration Level: 1
Cap Flags: 0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
 
Sound device 1:
Description: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback
Default Voice Playback
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_10250157&REV_1002
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5591
Driver Date: 3/26/2008 04:36:28
Type: WDM
Other Drivers:
Acceleration Level: 1
Cap Flags: 0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
 


Debug Message:  *********END dxdiag info.*********
Debug Message:  Entering WinMain
Debug Message:  ******* Starting Game Shell *******
Debug Message:  Going Fullscreen
Debug Message:  Preparing to change display settings.
Debug Message:  Using hardware vertex processing
Debug Message:  Using multilsample setting: D3DMULTISAMPLE_5_SAMPLES
Debug Message:  Attempting to create D3DDevice at resolution 1440 x 900, Windowed: 0, Multisample: 5
Debug Message:  Game Resolution: 1440 x 900
Debug Message:  Running fullscreen.
Debug Message:  HAL (hw vp): NVIDIA GeForce 8200
Debug Message:  D3DPRESENT_INTERVAL_DEFAULT
Debug Message:  Refresh rate: 60
Debug Message:  Bit Depth: 32 bit.
Debug Message:  *********Checking D3DDevice Caps***********************
Debug Message:  A full-color cursor is supported in hardware at high resolution modes.
Debug Message:  RGB in format 6:6:6, Masks reported as ff0000:ff00:ff
Debug Message:  Now Fullscreen
Debug Message:  Shell initialization complete
Debug Message:  GalCiv2 is activated.
Debug Message:  ***** Initializing Game *****
Debug Message:  Timer Frequency is 0 17d7840
Debug Message:  Initializing sound card.
Debug Message:  initailizing bink
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask Movies\techs\*.bik
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask C:\Users\Grant\Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Gfx\Movies\*.bik
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask C:\Users\Grant\Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\sfx\*.wav
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask C:\Users\Grant\Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Music\*.mp3
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask C:\Users\Grant\Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Event Music\*.mp3
Debug Message:  Create setup screens.
Debug Message:  Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message:  Clear influence.
Debug Message:  Clear up laws.
Debug Message:  Clear first time events.
Debug Message:  Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message:  Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message:  Set mouse.
Debug Message:  Set update timer.
Debug Message:  Clear data definitions.
Debug Message:  Killing ship styles:
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask C:\Users\Grant\Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ShipStyles\*.xml
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask ./Data/\FleetFormations\*.fleet
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask Gfx\Planets\C0*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideN*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideE*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideS*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideW*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideN*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideE*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideS*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideW*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideN*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideE*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideS*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideW*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideN*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideE*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideS*.png
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideW*.png
Debug Message:  Reading Star Names
Debug Message:  Reading Star Names... Done
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask ./Data/English/Tutorials/*.xml
Debug Message:  GalaxyWnd: Cannot find OBJID Scenaro_MoreDetails_FText
Debug Message:  GalaxyWnd: Cannot find OBJID Scenaro_Details_FormattedText
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\Mods\Default\Data\CustomMaps\*.gc2map
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask ./Data/English/Scenarios/*.GC2Scenario
Debug Message:  No files found matching mask C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\Mods\Default\Data\Scenarios\*.gc2scenario
Debug Message:  CustomPersonalityWnd: Cannot find OBJID Personality_Special_Title
Debug Message:  CustomPersonalityWnd: Cannot find OBJID Personality_Special_Disctiption_Spinner_Back
Debug Message:  CustomPersonalityWnd: Cannot find OBJID Personality_Special_Disctiption_Title
Debug Error:  CustomShipStyleWnd: Unknown edit field ShipList_List_Entry type: CustomListEntry
Debug Error:  CustomShipStyleWnd: Unknown edit field ShipList_Avalible_List_Entry type: CustomListEntry
Debug Message:  WARNING: GetShipStylePrefix called for civ and civ has no ship style
Debug Message:  LoadHardpointsFromPrefsFile failed to load ship config file: ./Data/ShipCfg/\(null)_ColonyShip.shipcfg
Debug Message:  Creating Galaxy
Debug Message:  Killing threads.
Debug Message:  Kiling civs.
Debug Message:  Killing ships.
Debug Message:  Killing rallypoints.
Debug Message:  Killing misc objects.
Debug Message:  Killing stars.
Debug Message:  Killing anomalies.
Debug Message:  Killing asteroid fields.
Debug Message:  Killing asteroid field mining bases.
Debug Message:  Killing space resources.
Debug Message:  Killing colonies and planets.
Debug Message:  killing scenario.
Debug Message:  Clearing Turn Event Log
Debug Message:  Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message:  Clear influence.
Debug Message:  Clear up laws.
Debug Message:  Clear first time events.
Debug Message:  Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message:  Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message:  Star Frequency: 4  Max Num Stars: 126
Debug Message:  Planet Frequency: 4  Max Num Planets: 504
Debug Message:  Galaxy Size Set: 8 x 8
Debug Message:  Creating Random Map
Debug Message:  Creating Random Map... Stars
Debug Message:  Star Density: Scattered.
Debug Message:  Number of Unplaced Stars: 14.
Debug Message:  Creating Random Map... Planets
Debug Message:  *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message:  *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message:  *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message:  *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message:  *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message:  *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message:  *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message:  *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message:  *************** Failed To Place Planet ***************
Debug Message:  Total planets placed: 65
Debug Message:  Creating Random Map... Anomalies
Debug Message:  Num Anomalies: 300
Debug Message:  Creating Random Map... Resources
Debug Message:  Creating Random Map... Done
Debug Message:  Distributing bonuses on planets...
Debug Message:  Tried to enter unprintable character: 8
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Debug Message:  Creating Random Map... Asteroid Fields
Debug Message:  Setting Game Options
Debug Message:  Creating Civs
Debug Message:  Torian Confederation: Intellence -> 30
Debug Message:  Iconian Refuge: Intellence -> 30
Debug Message:  Arcean Empire: Intellence -> 30
Debug Message:  Krynn Consulate: Intellence -> 30
Debug Message:  Forerunners: Intellence -> 30
Debug Message:  Creating Civs... Done
Debug Message:  Updating ZOC.
Debug Message:  Creating 4 minor races
Debug Message:  Creating ships...
Debug Message:  Updating ZOC.
Debug Message:  Galaxy Create... Done
Debug Message:  UIBeginGame called with g_ulLocalPlayerID = 4
Debug Message:  UIBeginGameHelper: New Game Started
Debug Message:  UIBeginGameHelper: Mods are Disabled
Debug Message:  Doing final stat calculations.
Debug Message:  End of Game Save
Debug Message:  Save Game: About to save
Debug Message:  Saving game C:\Users\Grant\Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\EndGameSave.tmp
Debug Message:  Num Sectors Across: 8
Debug Message:  Saving: Game mode is normal.
Debug Message:  Number of ships: 15, Number of Fleets: 0
Debug Message:  Save game finished.
Debug Message:  SummaryWnd: Cannot find OBJID Summary_Epic_Button
Debug Message:  Error flipping back buffer to primary buffer.
Debug Message:  Unknown
Debug Message:  n/a
Debug Message:  Unknown error when flipping back buffer to primary buffer.

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Reply #2 January 5, 2009 7:39:50 PM
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Debug Message: Error flipping back buffer to primary buffer.
Debug Message: Unknown
Debug Message: n/a
Debug Message: Unknown error when flipping back buffer to primary buffer.

 

hum you mean that you got a single crash in how much time ? is it random? how often does it happen ?

random rare crashes are quite hard to debug but what I quoted is often a problem with gfx cards/drivers

however I once had such a problem (but in my case it was recurrent) and never solved it until I change the computer

maybe the main problem was that the whole computer was undersized for what I liked to play (gigantic size map)

however it was a very long time ago (for reference this was my old post about it : https://forums.stardock.com/113583)

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Reply #3 January 5, 2009 7:43:03 PM
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(for reference the primary buffer is what the screen displays, while this happens the gfx cards calculates the next image and stores it in the back buffer, then switches the back & primary buffer around, and so on ... )

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Reply #4 January 5, 2009 8:04:13 PM
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*bangs head on desk until he passes out*

This may not be your issue, but I'd recommend turning AA down or off regardless-you're running integrated, for God's sake.  Granted, it's not the integrated your grandfather ran, but it's still integrated.

I apologize-this is annoying me lately. 

Hopefully someone can help you figure out what those unprintable character messages are, though.  I'd suspect they're the real culprit-or at least part of it.

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Reply #5 January 5, 2009 10:03:26 PM
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Im sorry i did not clarify, I haven't had an issue since the last time I was on it, yet it was more random than anything, I have been playing it for awhile today and it has only happened once today. IT seems to happen everytime I get on but only once or twice, i just want to fic this problem.

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Reply #6 January 5, 2009 10:07:01 PM
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Yes sole soul you're right. I mean yes I'm expecting alot from integrated graphics but It does meet the games requirements as well as passing it.
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Reply #7 January 5, 2009 10:11:58 PM
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reply 6
Yes sole soul you're right. I mean yes I'm expecting alot from integrated graphics but It does meet the games requirements as well as passing it.

AA is kind of a multiplier, though.  Granted, that's perhaps not the best way to put it, but it's (I've found) the best rule to live by when setting it.

And the issue with it being integrated is that the VRAM it uses is "borrowed" (aka stolen) from your system RAM, which slows things down in more ways than one.  (Especially so with a game like GC2, where RAM is really the limiting factor-but I'm not sure that's the issue here, either.)

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Reply #8 January 6, 2009 7:46:44 AM
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Quoting Sole Soul,
reply 7

Quoting Saiyan230, reply 6Yes sole soul you're right. I mean yes I'm expecting alot from integrated graphics but It does meet the games requirements as well as passing it.
AA is kind of a multiplier, though.  Granted, that's perhaps not the best way to put it, but it's (I've found) the best rule to live by when setting it.

And the issue with it being integrated is that the VRAM it uses is "borrowed" (aka stolen) from your system RAM, which slows things down in more ways than one.  (Especially so with a game like GC2, where RAM is really the limiting factor-but I'm not sure that's the issue here, either.)

on this one

as I said, I believe that the problem lies in the gfx part, and integrated gfx sharing the memory isn't any good moreso when you just use a LOT of memory with AntiAliasing

and remember it is NOT because you meet the system requirements that you'll be able to turn AA on in any game out there

heck I meet the system requirements for a lot of games with my 8800GTS512, yet I cannot always activate AA (while keeping the game playable) depending on the screen resolution I run the game at and the overall options I used (texture resolution and such ...) and that's with 512Mb of dedicated graphic memory. Sorry if it looks like I'm bragging because I'm not at all ...

the point is that sole soul is indeed right, you might want to try out (at least try) without AA (because it the easiest to test out)

then if it doesn't work you might want to switch drivers around (the latest ain't always the best for your system) while remembering to clean drivers between changes (I once had a problem because of left overs more info here)

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Reply #9 January 6, 2009 7:52:42 AM
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also I just saw that you use multisample "5" which should translate in AA 5x

even if it works, this is NOT a good idea, AA was designed with multiples in mind (for nvidia cards AA2x, AA4x, AA8x so you should either choose 2, 4 or 8)

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Reply #10 January 6, 2009 4:47:12 PM
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The AA is set at what its been since i've installed it, does anyone have any suggestions on what to bump it down to? and whismerhill thank you very much for the assistance.

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Reply #11 January 6, 2009 4:50:02 PM
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Thank you very much sole soul for explaining that to me, i'm definitely not the computer type nor do I have much of a concept on how this kinda stuff works.

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