I am one of those 40+ year old trekkies. However i am not afraid of change like the other die hards are.

That is what this is all about is change. The die hards are afraid of change. They want to keep the original series in the 1960's with the lightbulb and twist knob cardboard control panels. They want to keep the matt painting backgrounds with the styrofoam bolders. They want to keep the The bad SFX, the cheese, and the camp, and Shat's overacting.

It is ironic that fans demand new Star Trek, and when it happens they nit pick and bash the hell out of it when one smidge of canon is stretched and/or ignored. I have been a big advocate of "modernizing" the original series. If i did the FX in the movie i would have done it a little differently, but that does not mean what has been done is not good. It is just different. That is what JJ Abrams is shooting for. Something completely different. IMO that is not a bad thing.

You obviously have not seen the Sacrifice of Angels 2 mod have you?

Well, Major Stress tried to do one....

Star Trek has lasted something like 700+ hours of Television. In that time, you're going to touch on a lot of stuff.

There's a big difference between touching on something and going in-depth.

My point is this: "Star Trek" means something. Like any adaptation of a work, you need to keep the meaning of it intact in the re-telling. The Lord of the Rings films changed many things: dialogue, character interactions, etc. But they kept to the true meaning and intent behind the original books, which is why they work very well as an adaptation.

Star Trek means something. So any film, TV series, etc. that bears that name needs to keep to the essential meaning of it. You can change the look of ships, technology, and the crew, as was done between TOS and TNG; that's all well and good. But you need to keep the sense of what Star Trek means alive. Otherwise, you're just stealing the name as a marketing gimmick.

Even Batman & Robin, horrible film though it was, kept to the essential nature of the character. Well, a version of the character; yes, the comic Batman was at one time very much like that presented in B&R. All I ask is that this movie that bears the Star Trek name keep to the essential nature of the series that came before it.

And, BattleStar Galactica? It doesn't keep to the nature of its originating series. But it's better for it, since the original BSG wasn't that great of a series. It had its moments, but it wasn't all that. The new BSG takes the setting and a few elements from the series and charts its own course.

I can't speak of anyone else, but as far as I'm concerned, TOS can be bruied in a shallow grave. I liked it when I was, like, 10. But my greatest emotional connection with Star Trek is TNG and DS9.

I never wanted them to revisit the TOS era. As far as I'm concerned, what is interesting is the future of Star Trek, not its past.

Too many people put TOS on some kind of pedestal, as though it were the pinnacle of all greatness or something. It was a good show, but it was inconsistent: truly great works of TeleVision art would air alongside utter drek like "Spock's Brain" and so forth. Not that TNG and DS9 were innocent of putting out horrors ("Profit and Lace"...), but the average was clearly better.

So from the beginning, this film gets a strike from me. They should have gone with an all-original cast in a new time setting, not redoing old stuff that should be left in the past. This just makes Star Trek look old (not to mention the fact that ST was at its most popular during the heyday of Next-Gen, not TOS, so they're stealing from the wrong place).

Strike 2 is what the trailer shows: nobody acts like the characters they're portraying in TOS. The look of the sets and so forth is entirely irrelevant next to the fact that the characters aren't right. TOS, ultimately, is about 3 characters; everyone who is not Kirk, Spock, or McCoy is a glorified extra. If you don't get these characters right, you fail at making a version of TOS.

They failed. Spock does not sound like Spock, nor does he act like Spock. Kirk is way over-the-top (and he's supposed to be a cadet that somehow ends up in charge of the ship? Did StarFleet lose their minds?). We didn't see enough of Bones in the trailer to know.

Now, I freely admit that the trailer may not be the best way to tell these kinds of subtle character details. But this is the trailer they made! They're telling us what they want to tell us. So if there is actual good characterization going on, they're doing a poor job of letting us know that.

Strike 3 is the direction/cinematograpy. Not the construction of the sets and such, but the camera moves. They simply look terrible. Too much clippy-editing style that the thrice-cursed Michael Bay brought us. Too much "twist the camera at a 60 degree angle for no real reason" nonsense that needs to be buried a the shallow grave right beside "bullet time." In short, it is not directed in a way that I want to see any movie directed in.

Three strikes and you're out.

No, what's ironic is that nobody (or, at least, nobody here) is doing any of that, yet people keep saying that they are.

I think the trailer looks pretty awesome.  The only comments I have is the background "Enterprise" under construction looked kinda like an art backdrop, not a ship.  I think they made good choices with the actors, they have an all star cast, and I can see how many of them would work.

It IS in fact a reboot.....so things will be different, but that is ok.

Even though it seems to be a movie of the new era (le sight) it actually looks like a good movie in it's own right. Based of the trailer.

*drools*

Sylar doesn't even have to do that now.  He just hugs people and gives them warm fuzzies while he takes their power. 

All I want to know is if Abrams is going to put in that "Kirk fight music" in this remake.

You know the one: "Da-Da-DAAHH-DAAHH-DAAHH-DAAHH-DAAHH-DAH-DaDa-Dah!"

I'd pay $10 to see that again.

I really don't like this trailer. The ridiculously fast "music", sparse dialogue, and flashes of combat (which didn't give me a sense of what was going on) make it seem like yet another adreneline-filled action-fest, and nothing like ST.

And what's with the car in the opening shot? It looks like a 50's Cadilac. Don't get me wrong, I love those, but isn't this movie set in the future?

There's change and then there's emo.

I want better looking ships and special effects from the modern age, as opposed to the sixties.  I also want the tacky side of Star Trek gone, the tribbles episode was ok, but the ones that go further than that need to be forgotten.  If you want to laugh away monsters, go drop acid.

On the other hand, I'm getting really tired of emo remakes.  This obsession with flawed heroes is getting old.  Everyone is flawed, everyone is not flawed in some massively obvious, in your face way.  Everyone isn't gay, tranny, drunk, slutty, whatever.  Most people don't try to kill their neighbors the first time they hear a noise, screw the secretary and babysitter, drink themselves into a stupor every night, or cry themselves to sleep because dolphins get caught in fishing nets.  If Kirk and Spock are yet another two guys with severe size issues that have emotional instability up the ass and couldn't get along with a rock, I'm going to add the guy to my hitlist I'm too lazy to ever start working on.

The trailer kinda makes it seem that way, and it's fucking depressing.  Especially since the not so emo looking ship is fucking outstanding.

QFT

I was cautiously optimistic about the movie until I saw the second trailer.  Now I'm more than half-expecting/dreading that it will be a steaming pile of spunk. 

I for one want a spin off series based on the Romulans! Then maybe one focusing on the Klingons! Those series could interact at different points.

Lol, Cadillacs are HUGE!  I am pretty sure it was a 60's Corvette roadster as well.  And yeah, little JT is obviously driving an antique car off a cliff.  This was a training run for Driving the Enterprise into a planet in Star Trek III.

Hehe, a Klingon series would be cool...every episode, they encounter some new alien race, mock their puny combat abilities, and occasionally destroy them in battle.