It generally sounds like the start of each game (albiet custom scenarios and mods, of course) all start after the apocolypse and it's up to you as a channeler to bring back life into the land. If that's true, there are some questions that pique my interest:
*Where do your game resources come from? Even if you reinvigorate the land, I wouldn't think you'd just create resources as part of that process. And if you did, why not just add those resources instantly into your pool?
*Where do heroes come from?
*How does your population grow? Since turns seem to be in terms of days, I wouldn't think realistically your population could grow much in the course of time, unless turns happen pretty quickly. It takes some time for real growth to happen.
Discuss amongst yourselves...
I'll bite
Metals would be easy. Even if you had to re-mine it, pre-industrial societies shouldn't be tapping out their reserves of metals any time soon and anything lying about could just be melted back down to reform.
I think we'd have to assume that forests/plants survived and don't count as the "nearly all life" - or that pockets survived, and that's where enclaves of Humans and Fallen also survived (I imagine the Beasts, too, since they've got to eat something).
So, to me anyway, bringing life back to your lands would be more a matter of making it more productive and healthy and not literally turning sterile rock into life-giving earth. And even if it is turning sterility into fertility, I don't think that implies that you could literally create lumber, iron, etc. - just that you could allow the land to provide for life.
Population growth - that one I dunno, maybe that's one of the settings: "Population Growth - Realistic () Fun (*)"
Wow, you raise some very good questions, Lord Reliant!
1) I would say that resources such as metals, diamonds, gold, etc. probably would still exist within the mountains and hills. And you are just bringing back the "green" to be able to grow crops again? So this might raise the ability and or strategy that you could have mining villages in lands that are still infertile and have food shipped in? I think this would be cool, but idk this is a hard question
2) I would imagine that heroes are going to be leaders of small villages that are scattered across the countryside and when you stumble upon them you can ask them to join you and whether their villages join you along with their leader would be another thing entirely. I would suppose imbuing their land with life essence would go a long way in convincing them tho I think it would be cool if heroes had their own beliefs and would join a certain nation more likely than say, yours, if your beliefs did not match and so it would take more convicing from you to turn them over to your beliefs and thus to your side. So while you may give their people the ability to grow a lot of food again and allow them to grow and prosper, they may never join you and might just use your kindness against you one day!
3) Yes.. this has always frustrated me about games like these. With Civilization, I actually never really noticed it all that much as the turns went up by like 50 years sometimes and the more important population reference was the relatively small number next to the city name anyways. But with GalCiv, as population was an important thing for taxation, i always wondered how those millions of babies being born each week (or turn) were paying taxes as soon as they were born <(goo goo) <(umm... you gonna pay this, kid?) I mean come one! lol But yea, I mean that was when a turn was a week! Now they are in days!?! Yea, I have no clue where I am gonna find my army now, I mean babies might be able to pay taxes but they certainly can't fight! It will be interesting to see how this is handled because I have definitely drawn a blank here...
I believe the argument that Galciv made was that the population wasn't the entire population, but tax paying citizens. So you weren't breeding people that fast, merely including more into your nation.
I think you are thinking a bit too hard about it. I'll tell you where it comes from.... MAGIC! Thats the point right? espceially if you as a channeler are turning the world back to habitable, you are re-sowing the resources.
@ Risinglegend : I always figured the numbers represented taxable members. Babies were too young to qualify OR the parents were taxed for their children.
Yeah, I just started a new Twilight of the Arnor game, and sure enough during the pre-turn advice it says that your population represents taxpaying citizens, and so your population expansion consist primarily of your citizens getting richer, and thus able to pay taxes.
Back on track, personally I think that some suspension of disbelief is allowed, as most games aren't very good at getting precise timescales right anyways. I will be happy if Stardock follows through and the world starts off looking dead, and gradually comes back to life because of the actions of the players.
Thanks for the input, everyone.
I have no issues coming up with certain justifications, but I was just curious what you guys thought. Jokingly, it seems like whenever we have any sort of unknown in the game we'll just answer it with MAGIC!
"Why does population grow so quickly in one turn?" "MAGIC!"
"How can I research advanced agricultural improvements in a non-industrialized culture?" "MAGIC!"
"What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?" "MAGIC!...Err... Are you talking about an African or European swallow?"
I like the concept that as a channeler you're just allowing the land to bring itself back to life, not creating materials for it to use.
Ahh yes, I remember that to a certain degree now, thank you for the remedial
great movie there, Lord Reliant
lvl 27 fertilimancers?
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