George Bush an environmental leader!!!

Let’s see how true that is. Before Mr. Bush became president he warned of a recession, after he took office he took steps to avoid it. Every economist in America agreed after the recession hit and dissipated that the president did the right thing at the right time even though it was fought tooth and nail by the democrats and even the current republican candidate for president. My son has his doctorate in economics so I checked with him before I wrote this.



Next it has been about 708 days since the democrats took over congress. Congresswoman Pelosi stated that she as leader and her people would bring down the price of gas as one of their first accomplishments. The price of gas has gone from 2.30 to 3.70 a gallon in that time. The last time the price of gas went that high this quickly Mr. Carter was President with a democrat controlled Congress. I see a trend here. Leader Pelosi’s cure for gas prices was to demand that OPEC produce more oil and the price skyrocketed. Great move. So please explain how the president jacked up the price of gas? He passed no laws or made any statements that caused the price to go up. Yet the democrats have made statements and the result is higher prices.

and there was a recession right after Bush committed treason by refusing to actually go after a terrorist named Osama Bin Laden. After Bin Laden and attackers from Saudi Arabia attacked the United States Bush sat there staring off into space for seven minutes while attempting to figure out the tough words of "My Pet Goat".





Goddamned that is a complete lie, he took steps TO CREATE THE ECONOMIC DISASTER WE ARE NOW IN. At every turn Bush worked to prevent the American population as a whole from growing while simultaneously laboring to make it easier for his oil cronies to rape the country economically.



Because Bush routinely blocked any legislation that would prevent the oil companies from reaping obscene profits at the detriment of the 80% of the US population that now recognizes Bush for the treasonous piece of crap it is.



Easy the shrub had Cheney's "energy policy" get created by the robber barons who are now making billions in this disastrous economy.

But what do I expect from the party who put Mark Foley in charge of securing the internet from pedophiles and presented
He then destroyed the US Department of Justice by systematically removing people who actually put the constitution above the shrub's political expediency.

In short anyone who would actually hold the Bush contributors accountable for their economic crimes were removed from office.

So you admit that the Clinton Administration failed to do anything about it.



Well if Mr. Bush committed treason then so did Mr. Clinton since the CIA had him 3 times before he left office and each time Mr. Clinton failed to do anything. Let’s see 8 years as president and Mr. Clinton did nothing to stop him. Mr. Bush was president for 8 months when we were attacked.



Oh, that is a good one, so when we had the attack on the World Trade Center, the black hawk down incident, two embassy bombings, and the USS Cole bombing all done by Al Qaeda on president Clinton’s watch it was okay with you? Mr. Bush sat for 7 minutes before he left a bunch of second graders and then was brought up to speed and then directed what should be done. Mr. Clinton in contrast sat for 8 years and did nothing other than bomb empty tents and an aspirin factory.



Yes, what you wrote is a complete lie. How do you do that and till think you are credible? As I pointed out every economist in the nation agreed that had not Mr. Bush gotten the tax cuts we would have been in a worse recession. In not making the tax cuts permanent it caused doubt with the elections coming as to what will happen, this has caused the problems we are having now. so if the democrats get off their dead asses and make the tax cuts permanent the economy may calm down a bit.



Your speculation is not born out by the facts and history. It was tried before, called the windfall profits tax during the Carter Administration. The price of gas went from 75 cents a gallon to 1.50 a gallon. So it was tried and failed and your answer is to try it again.



That is a nice rant but you offer nothing in the way of how he jacked up the price of gas. Do you have any specific instances to back up you claims or are you going to just say that I am too dumb to understand your brilliance? You say everyone who could hold him accountable was removed from office except the fourth estate. No one in the press has made this claim so I would have to say it is all political attack and no meat to it.

Oh please there has never been a single instance in the history of the planet where every single economist in a country has agreed on ANYTHING. Your lie is disproven right then and there.

Kind of like how Republicans argued that global warming is "up in the air" because the facts presented by the people who actually don't have agendas are disagreed with by scientists bought and paid for by the oil lobby.

Actually he sat there for 7 minutes before he ran like the chickenshit coward he was. He ran faster than he did from a National Guard drug test.



Bullshit, cite evidence that EVERY SINGLE ECONOMIST IN THE COUNTRY agreed with it.

I know you can't but I also know you lack both the brains to realize it and the integrity to admit it.

Wow do you ever tire of being wrong?

This took almost three seconds to disprove your lies.

Economists Voice Opposition to Bush Tax Cuts | WWW Link

Economists' statement opposing the Bush tax cuts
WWW Link

Yep, no matter how cold it gets, it's due to man's carbon footprint-induced global warming.

Here's some recent stuff, I'll admit I can't check it all out, I'm no economist, just an engineering student.

 

http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2008/05/menendez-thank.html

 

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2008/01/10/bush-stimulus-may-have-only-modest-effect/

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/27/AR2008032703145.html

Mr. Nash,

I would think from your statement that you are trying to be funny. Just in case you are serious, I will tell you that you are incorrect. Not only have I run this by economists locally but I have also run it by my son. His doctorate in economics seems good enough for the oil companies and his MBA seems to be making him money so I assume he is successful.

The futures market sets the price of oil sold on the open market. The oil companies buy this oil at cost then have it refined, which is how we end up paying a lot of money for gasoline.

Youth! In a forum like this one does not get that specific at least until one knows the level of intelligence one is dealing with. For you to cause this minor flap over the difference between stock and futures markets tells me your dad wanted to slap you around a lot when you were a teen.

Yes, you are correct.

I refuse to pick that nit.

The point you so skillfully avoided was that the oil companies do not set the price of oil and market forces set the price of gas. Oil companies by law are prohibited from making more than ten cents profit on a gallon of gasoline. In my state the local mom and pop gas station is limited to three cents a gallon profit. I know this because I used to own a gas station in the 70’s. This is where you get a variance in price. It is also illegal to sell gasoline below the cost of getting it to the station. So subtract thirteen cents for profit, and taxes, and the rest of the price of gasoline per gallon is getting it to market.