this is not your traditional RTS but a 4x strategy game also, you can mod everything if you want to speed things up once the forge tools are released, personally gameplay is too fast for me.

Play on fast. Play smaller games. Play with less players.

A prime example of why games released these days suck. Everyone expects all RTS to follow exactly the same rules and any deviation is seen by RTS click fest junkies as the crime of all crimes. Well hats off to ironclad for breaking away and makeing a "REAL" stratergy game! Got to be one of the best games Iv brought in....well I cant think of how long lol

It makes me smile to see the difference in attention spans in this thread. How dull, indeed.

thank you dheaman. thats what I mean. I love long games. But , unlike soem people I have stuff to do in the world. I play Age of Empires all the time and games get over in30-2:00 hours. I have a family that i love and want to spend time with. I dont have 6 hours a night to play. And i aslo like to play with other people. I dont find it fun to play with computers because you can't talk with them. I mean long games are fun but, could they add an option like fastest for a fast paced game that takes an hour

You know that multiplayer games can also be saved, right?

EDIT: IMO they should have never marketed the game as an RTS simply because it isn't one. Well, at least in the traditional sense (ie. crappy games like StarCraft). It's closer to MoO/GalCiv/SotS than anything else.

They may be long games but there ain't nothing to match the feeling of nuking your enemy into oblivion after a gruelling game

Yeah, I know hence I said "in a traditional sense"

RTT's are games that concentrate on the battles and leave resources and base building out.

From what I understood, this is a real time 4x game. To my knowledge this is the first one.

HAHAHAhahahaha...

Thats all I have to say - I`m not feeling very diplomatic in the face of this magnitude of silliness, sorry...

Ive played,and loved, Homeworld(2). Although these games are still some of my all time favorites, my biggest complaint was that the scirmish games were too fast.

I have to say the pacing in Sins seems spot on! I've played only a few games so far on small 2 player maps which lasted a few hours apiece. I love the idea of building up my fleet, exploring, having all the cool research options, and having huge battles. Too bad Ive gotten my but handed to me so far but I think I wasnt thinking on as large a scale as the game should be played.

Back to the point, I think the speed is just right, I do speed up the research on my games though. Other than that, I love the fact that games can take hours to finish.

So go play a different game you ADHD douche. I know that people like you have been dumbing-down games for about 6 years now, and you get angry when an RPG actually offers concrete choices, or an FPS features intelligent gameplay and an award-winning story instead of pretty graphics, but I'm sure you'll survive. Sadly, your kind always do.

You know, I remember the best FPS game I've ever played - it was called "Great Tribal War", a mod for Tribes 2. The fundamental theory behind it was that you and the enemy team were placed on an absolutely enormous map that was littered with empty buildings. You were given one deployable 'spawn point', and the goal was to protect yours at all costs. Once it was destroyed, you couldn't spawn anymore, ie: you lose. You would deploy to a base, set up defenses, and expand to other bases (all in FPS). Finding your enemy would then result in massive aerial battles as bombers and dropships would descened from thousands of feet in the air to break the defense, tanks would shell from afar, and so on. The game was extremely cerebral, strategic, and, as I said, the best FPS game I've ever played. Period.

However, games could last up to 5 hours sometimes, but the playerbase was relatively large (it required client-side downloads, which most Tribes 2 mods didn't, so people were turned off of it), showing that, *GASP* some people don't find idiotic repetitive fast-paced twitch shooters fun anymore. I suggest you get some taste.