You're welcome. Indeed, everybody should know that not everyone has time for this. With all the money they are now asking with this subscription scam, I think they can afford some decent beta-testing.

Moderator note: The Fences subscription is $9.99 a year.  With it, any current subscription will get updates and any major version 'upgrades' (Fences 5 -> 6 -> etc) for as long as the subscription is current. 

Quoting dangibson,

reply 27

Got the new 5.5 Fences, and bugs with it. Yesterday, at three different times, some icons left their Fences and moved into the Fence that is set for new icons.  This happened again when I turned on the computer this morning. Does 5.5 support a Fence that collects new icons?  I have 8 fences and 176 icons. It is very disturbing when the icons don't stay put. 

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Is this happen on Fences 5.53? Fences 5.53 come with a better layout engine. You might need to Start from fresh, don't used your saved layout. Setup the layout manually all over again. Save it and see if the issue still there after reboot. Also, review this guide: https://stardock.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/SHC/pages/1261666307/Fences+and+Multi-Monitor+with+Docking+Stations.

Note the part on.

As of 5/22/2024, new installations of Fences 5.53 will have the “Backups” setting “Store my layout on a per-multimonitor-configuration basis” enabled by default. Existing installations of Fences will need to manually configure this setting.

Thank you.
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

Yeah everything in life becomes a subscription this is the fashion. Anti-virus model. Very nice for the firms, much less for the people. 

As has been asked in other replies, we REALLY would like to know if you change the layout option if this resolve your issue, Jagio.  Please review this at your earliest convenience: 

https://forums.stardock.com/528046/get;3931457

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

I'm so confused. I've used Fences for many months. It's been very frustrating that I couldn't get it to move to my external primary monitor. I was so excited that 5.5 was supposed to fix that. 

NOPE!!  Doesn't fix it.

I've tried all the suggestions that I can find and nothing fixes it.

My monitor is plugged into a USB-C Hub. No fix. I changed the HDMI connection to a direct plug in my computer. No fix.
I've tried multiple settings changes. I've done the Win-P PC Screen Only then Extend Display. I've rebooted after each change - probably about 10 reboots now.

I've spent 1.5 hours and nothing has changed.

I discovered this post by Adam McGuiness on May 22, 2024
    https://stardock.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/SHC/pages/1261666307/Fences+and+Multi-Monitor+with+Docking+Stations

It can't do anything with 5.5 because it has screen captures of the menus from version 4. That is no help at all. If it's really going to be a help it needs to have the screen captures for 5.5

BOTTOM LINE - there needs to be a strong, in-your-face post that gives the SPECIFIC STEPS for someone to install 5.5 and then what exact settings to change - with correct screenshots of each step - to undo the past wrong behavior and actually start working to move Fences to the Primary External Monitor.

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My Fences = version 5.5.3

Windows = Windows 11 Pro - 23H2

Computer = Dell Latitude 5540

With some exceptions, it has for all the internal testing we have done and from most of the feedback since release.  The task here is to see that it's not for you too, hank.

Since there are other items in this release, where clients could report other issues, I have created this thread to specifically address monitor concerns. 

https://forums.stardock.com/528229/fences-55-new-render-engine-thread

I have added some clairity and instuctions to specifically address some of your questions about process and troubleshooting.

After reviewing it, your feedback there would be welcome and appreicated.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

The documentation is better, but still "unclear".

I finally tried something else. I MANUALLY moved everything on my laptop's desktop to the external monitor.

Then I told FENCES to SAVE BACKUP.

It works now.

I suggest that you update this statement. I don't think it's clear enough.

1. If necessary, resize and reposition your Fences as you see fit - including any on other monitors.

I suggest saying specifically ----

"If updating to 5.5 doesn't automatically move FENCES to your primary monitor, MANUALLY drag everything from the monitor that it shouldn't be on to the monitor that you want it to be on. After resizing and arranging as desired on the correct monitor, Open FENCES > BACKUPS and select SAVE BACKUP."

That's my suggestion.
I'm glad I tried manually moving everything. 
THAT was the only thing that fixed the problem.

That seems to have fixed it for me. Today there were no wandering icons, and when I restarted, everything stayed in place. Thanks for the fix.

Dan

Quoting patriciaaw,

reply 41

DP monitor

===Fences MultiMon Debug Log===

===Time: 1715568159, UpTime 20500===

==Display Devices===

Monitor: \\.\DISPLAY1\Monitor0, ID: \\?\DISPLAY#PHL090B#4&2a735f64&1&UID249395#{e6f07b5f-ee97-4a90-b076-33f57bf4eaa7}, Key: \Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e96e-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0004, String: Philips 328P6V (31.5inch Wide LCD MONITOR ), State: 3, (0, 0 / 3840 x 2160)

 

===Monitors (1; 0,0; 3840x2160)===

Monitor: \\.\DISPLAY1, IsPrimary: 1, DPI: 120, (0, 0 / 3840 x 2160)

 

===Groups===

0-9|1802|1|570|686|0|DT-Ham` |\\.\DISPLAY1` |0|0|3840|2160|0|0|255|0|E:\DT-Ham` |-1|1|1|1|1|{3549BEB9-61AB-41A3-816B-5DD2C937E573}|

1-10|1365|1|436|633|0|PAT` |\\.\DISPLAY1` |0|0|3840|2160|0|0|255|0|E:\PAT` |-1|1|1|1|1|{AE939787-689C-442A-94C4-F07EAB2C86C8}|

2-12|2373|1|720|886|0|Current`Art` |\\.\DISPLAY1` |0|0|3840|2160|0|0|255|0|D:\Current`Art` |-1|1|1|1|1|{A919B577-4AEE-4887-911A-FE6E864C5829}|

3-13|3094|1|684|801|0|Utes` |\\.\DISPLAY1` |0|0|3840|2160|0|0|255|0|D:\Utes` |-1|1|1|1|1|{36079613-DDEA-481A-B12D-E8B8FEC0E7F3}|

 

===Settings===

AdjustGroupsForResolution=1

AdjustGroupsForResolution_FollowPrimary=0

StoreGroupDataPerResolution=1

IconSizeLast=54

LastIconSpacingX=122

LastIconSpacingY=122

DesktopGrid=1

DesktopAutoArrange=0

ResolutionLast=[0|0|3840|2160|1|\\.\DISPLAY1];

 

When i power off monitor then return windows still running. when i repower monitor

the 4 fences group together on top of each other on the top left side of PC screen,

Did not happen in Previous Version, only this current V5.53

Unlock fences reposition, then relock

Thank you

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Please repost your issue in this new thread specifically for issue one new layout Engine thread: https://forums.stardock.com/528229.

Also, please read through the instruction on the "Store my Fences positions on a per-screen-resolution basis". Try those steps and see if the issue you having resolved.

Thank you.
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

I am on Fences 4. Today I received the offer of an upgrade. I clicked a 'what's new' link provided by the upgrade notice. The result was information about Fences 5. I told Fences to upgrade itself. It upgraded to a new version of Fences 4 (with backported fixes, I presume). What happened is welcome. That I was left unclear about what was happening was not. That is problem 1.

Problem 2 is that I saw the following displayed in a window.

Reduce distractions with Chameleon and enhance productivity easier access to Peek with the Peek toggle. [Sic]

That is gibberish - it is far from being a sentence. Dear me.

Much has been discussed on this issue seen by some.  Your results after reviewing it would be helpful. 

Quoting TheAncient1,

reply 17

Related: Upgrade from Fences 5.04 to Fences 5.53 on a single monitor system messes up icon spacing in portals: lower icons obscure text of icons above. This happens on Windows 10 [22H2 (OS Build 19045.4412)] - It works properly on windows 11. 



 

The takeaway from my post seems to have been missed. I need to know the effect of Ctrl + Mouse wheel scroll in and out, Cless_Aurion... What happens when you try using it in and outside of the Fences?

I also need to know if you have this set...

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Same for me: no issues within fences, only the desktop icons are affected.

I'm with 4K 100%, Windows 11 23H2 build 22631.3672.