I'm sure this will probably stir a pot or kick a dead horse, but... The Epic Store is good for gaming, good for developers, and good for gamers.... People should give them less hate.https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-has-been-great-for-many-indies-says-x-com-and-phoenix-point-creator/
More of a 'beating a dead horse' though said horse is a pile of bloody pulp that is unrecognizable as formerly being a horse.
That said, I do agree, some people get irrational about it with EGS.
The only thing that is good for me...as a gamer...is to use my preferred Launcher/Store to buy/use my stuff.
Problem is on Steam you do not own the games. You rent them as a service.
On EGS/GoG you own the games and you can run them even without the launcher as they are stores.
Read careful the EULA.
Also Steam gives less money to the developers. As a SME owner myself, I will trade with whom ever gives me more money for my work.
Quoting Panos4860, reply 3Problem is on Steam you do not own the games. You rent them as a service. If that is true.....it is a distinction without a practical difference to me as a gamer. I will tire of a game long before Steam has any incident where they pull existing purchases. If for some reason it happened, and I lost a $50 game. It would be a small price to pay to not have 7 different bloat-ware "game launchers" installed on my computer. Personally I think Steam is the WORST of them. A UI straight out of 1998, confusing menus, useless features. I dont need ANY of that. My preference would be getting all my games from Windows Store/XBox store. Click Game Buy Game Get an icon on your start menu for game Game updates itself
All the free games I get from epic. I just don’t get the hate but hey I ain’t that smart. Epic taking 12% of the games sale cost vs steam’s 30% I’m smart enough to understand. I also get being reluctant to launch a game undergoing changes on steam and getting review bombed which reduced sales. It’s a numbers game wait to release on steam until you have a polished Diamond so it doesn’t rack up negative reviews as it undergoes construction but you lose the sales from people who won’t use epic. We’ll see the outcome maybe a decade from now when they release 5.
Quoting Panos4860, reply 3 Problem is on Steam you do not own the games. You rent them as a service. If that is true.....it is a distinction without a practical difference to me as a gamer. I will tire of a game long before Steam has any incident where they pull existing purchases. If for some reason it happened, and I lost a $50 game. It would be a small price to pay to not have 7 different bloat-ware "game launchers" installed on my computer. Personally I think Steam is the WORST of them. A UI straight out of 1998, confusing menus, useless features. I dont need ANY of that. My preference would be getting all my games from Windows Store/XBox store. Click Game Buy Game Get an icon on your start menu for game Game updates itself
French court decided that French customers have the right to sell their games. Valves argues the customers don't own the games but buying a license to play them and at any moment the EULA says can stop them from been available. Nothing is been done last 3 years. Believing that people will forget.
Steam must allow users to resell their games, says French court (yahoo.com)
And because I am in EU, a French court decision applies to my country too. (Is in the Treaty Of the EU)
Yet nothing.
I think we as consumers, especially those of us that enjoy Stardock's games, need to remember that what is beneficial for Stardock is beneficial for us. If there is a clear business reason/advantage to using Epic over Steam, and the inconvenience to us is minor, why wouldn't you support Stardock?
I'm going to reiterate that I can not understand the grandstanding by some Steam fanboys on this issue. It makes me think of the asinine Xbox versus Playstation arguments.
Personally, I'll gladly take a minor inconvenience if it means Stardock has more resources to make the games I enjoy. I'm not even sure it is an inconvenience at this point with the size of Epic's market share, and it will only become less inconvenient over time.
I really don't want to be blunt here... but no, that isn't remotely the same.
Please explicitly list how Stardock has harmed you as a consumer by restricting the purchase of a single game for a limited period of time from being purchased from a single store front. The reason you need to actually state your (supposed) harm is because we do know the benefits Stardock is receiving from said agreement. And, these benefits flow downward to the end product we are receiving as consumers. (I'm doubtful you will contribute anything meaningful to this discussion after you just compared a typical commercial transaction to Stardock willfully, physically injuring its customers (and said customers wanting to be physically injured)). Your analogy is gross and sickening. I hope you reflect on what you just stated here.
If you can't justify your opinion, GTFO.
Edit: This may be an online forum, but each of us are real individuals. I seriously hope you reflect on your response.
I don't hate Epic but find it's storefront lacking.
The features I'd really like Epic to add are forums, workshop (mods), and player reviews (not just an anonymous star rating). These features add to the feeling of community and enhance the experience of the game.
Now if they continue to improve the Epic store and add more features, then I think it will become a more serious challenger to Steam.
I'm not sure about how good Epic is for indie devs. Yes, Epic takes less per sale but they also have a much smaller user base. Do the devs end up really ahead since they're likely to sell fewer copies. I guess only Devs can speak to that.
I find the lack of social media features on Epic games refreshing. No chats, no forums, no player reviews and no game communities. All of which are severely abused on Steam by players. I rather have just an online store where I can simply purchase a game without any personal interaction with other players, forums, chats or reviews. This is what Epic offers for me.
I don't mind Epic if I can get the best price there, but having exclusives is bad for the consumer and it's anticompetitive. And you don't own the games there either, they also have DRM, unlike GOG, so not sure what you are talking about.
lol EGS isn't a shadow of what Steam is, at this point it's just a clownshoe that is temporarily embarrassing small to mid tier devs by exposing how perilously close to cash exhaustion they are that Sweeney can just wave some coins under their nostrils and make them turn on their fanbases like rabid dogs. Steam legal compliance runs deeeeeep and is a sufficiently strong presence that the governments of nations will deal with them, getting governments to even recognize what a "digital store" is was probably 99% of the work, that's Steam, everything else is "camping out". If you're pro consumer it's a no brainer, Steam all the way, if you're pro business then it doesn't matter what benefits the industry you don't care about it's ongoing health you only care about yourself and nothing will change your mind.
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