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Well, I started a thread back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike. I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc. Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.
Super fast background: I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust. Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me. In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards.
Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:
New Player tips
Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends
pacov's misc info
Here's a guide I made
pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo
k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts. I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so). We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not. Caveat complete.
Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role. You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not). You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2). In my case, I'm good at support and adc. I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops. Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important. If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know... Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it. I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.
Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles. Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby. Say "adc pref." Do this as soon as you hit the lobby. Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it. This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request. If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref." In my experience, you generally do not want to call support. It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible. If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you. If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win. You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.
Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo. If you solo, you have to rely on yourself. IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo. Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good? That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit. The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3. If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect. When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles. Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works. Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles. Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker. For example, Bryff is a good mid. If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered. In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing. Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game. Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support. If you want that, you can usually get it.
How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do. And this is really what I do on a regular basis. I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at. For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads. So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw. I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ). Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI. Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc. Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out. Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself. So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots). If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game. Then, do your best. Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role. And keep in mind what you need to work on. For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth. That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid. The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team. So, best to be ready for it. Put your time in and practice roles.
One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked. 1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want. Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT. 2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support. It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc. I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL. People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.
Lol King profiles for ranked tracking
I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them). Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time.
Snapshot updated 05/28/2014
Character guides
well... it's pretty damn close to official now. The rentals for wards were really a dry run through for rentals methinks. Champion rentals and skin rentals are inbound. From reddit:
So after opening the riot store file as described in Antropod's thread, I found this line:
"CHAMPION_RENTAL_MESSAGE":"Congratulations, you have rented a new Champion! Next time you start a game, this Champion will be available in the Champion Select screen for you to use in game. Good Luck!"
It is right after the message for a permanent unlock.
So I guess rentals will be a thing in the future? Don't know if I like it or not. :/
So obviously it's going to be
[CHAMPION_RENTAL_MESSAGE] => Congratulations, you have rented a new Champion! Next time you start a game, this Champion will be available in the Champion Select screen for you to use in game. Good Luck! [CHAMPION_SKIN_RENTAL_MESSAGE] => Congratulations, you have rented a new skin! Next time you start a game and choose this Champion, the skin will be available under "unlocked skins" on the last screen before the game launches. Click on the skin and then click on "Use Skin". [ITEM_TAG_PER_GAME_RENTAL] => Per Game Rental [ITEM_TAG_TIMED_RENTAL] => Timed Rental
[CHAMPION_RENTAL_MESSAGE] => Congratulations, you have rented a new Champion! Next time you start a game, this Champion will be available in the Champion Select screen for you to use in game. Good Luck!
[CHAMPION_SKIN_RENTAL_MESSAGE] => Congratulations, you have rented a new skin! Next time you start a game and choose this Champion, the skin will be available under "unlocked skins" on the last screen before the game launches. Click on the skin and then click on "Use Skin".
[ITEM_TAG_PER_GAME_RENTAL] => Per Game Rental
[ITEM_TAG_TIMED_RENTAL] => Timed Rental
I was just poking fun at Argentines.
not sure what I think about airlift or w/e it's called. Kind of fun I suppose. only 2v2 though - hopefully that gets changed. Ai's a unimpressive at least. Core mechanics kinda ok.
edit edit- other useful content - korea is confirmed by riot to receive the end of season patch on 11/14/2012. Likely an announcement about NA in the near future.
edit - just to clarify - twas a sad panda game. I was glad to see karl get to play mid some. I think we had a 3 man premade with us. Our jungle had internet connection issues. I completely destroyed top over and over. Karl held mid fine for a bit (eg his comment about countering), and bot lane/jungle went full retard multiple times. Karl's stats (along with mine, actually) reflect the awfulness that followed. And now - commence ball busting.
karl is asked to go mid.
10 minutes in:
Karl: "I'm pretty sure chogath counters the fug out of katarina".
27 min later
karl's stats
I was actually doing well against her with more farm and had control of the lane. Then she got a double kill bot when I repeatedly called mia and dinged and then she killed me when my jungler tricked me into going in. Kat snowballs rather hard, so at that point I was screwed. Still, all the deaths on my part other than the first one were in fail teamfights.
Karl, how could you have had fail teamfights?!
Your Udyr bought the third most expensive item in the game... the one they're removing for Season 3 for being way way too powerful. I don't know how you guys could have struggled when people on your team are buying super cost effective items like that.
Or when my strategy was all about soloing baron when we had a great opportunity to do so, but our team can't get on board with simply showing themselves middle to give me a chance to do so. I personally didn't think moving up as a team was overly challenging to buy me 20 seconds. Instead, our jungler decided to try to steal their blue while I'm soloing baron and drew the entire enemy team there. Personally, with how things were going elsewhere (and how far ahead I was at the time), I think it, although pretty ballsy, was a good call. It became not a good call the second our special jungler continued to be special. I prob should have sold it once the plan was completely blown out of the water, though.
while were quoting wiki's for some reason, how about some exciting math on the total dmg output per second from me. madreds + wriggles + udyr's passive + blahblahblah = solo baron is less than 20 seconds. Out of curiosity, you don't think madred's bloodrazor is a good item for soloing baron? Pretty good odds I could have solo'd it with a different item, I suppose, but it would be more risky imo - with it, its safe for udyr/ww to solo.
Buy Wits End + Green Pot + Red Pot instead of MBR.
2650 g v 3800 g. If you want to make the cost equal, add a pickaxe or a recurve bow.
Since you had Wriggles already, MBR's passive doesn't even work.
Same amount of AS.
42 magic damage on-hit + 10 AD from red pot ~= 40 AD from MBR.
MR ~= Armor since Baron does hybrid damage. It does deal more physical than magical, but Wits does give nearly twice the MR.
Green Elixer gives 22% AS (half a recurve bow) and 8% crit.
"Out of curiosity, you don't think madred's bloodrazor is a good item for soloing baron?"
I didn't notice any Baron soloing that game, so... I guess if your PvP dominance hadn't started evaporating coincidentally around the time you started sinking your money into that item I guess it would have been good?
I'll have to try that - I actually didn't think of getting pots to make up the difference. Not that I get to play characters often that could solo baron at any rate, but yeah - that sounds more cost effective. Are you sure that wriggles + mbr don't stack? I mean, I know I don't get dbl wriggles buffs, but I'd still get the 120 dmg per hit, right?
"thunder says more stuff"
There was that one time I started to solo baron, tried to get the team to move up to distract, and my jungle went at their blue and drew them all to me. As my jungle also got himself killed, the opportunity was gone and baron fell to them, pretty much making my purchase a quite horrible idea. Anyway, I took a shot that I thought might work. Didn't.
http://elohell.net/chill/178736
another for pacov
Yeah, MBR stacks just fine, it's regular blood razor that doesn't.
Also, MBR has massive damage output for pvp, the problem is if you're crit whoring with an IE it's useless. It's a severely OP item, you just can't critical all that magic damage so it's only for on hit builds or extra damage on a bruiser.
yay for patch note
Season 2 has officially ended!
Brand
Elise
Kassadin
Katarina
LeBlanc
Lux
Renekton
Soraka
Twisted Fate
Twitch
Veigar
Volibear
Xin Zhao
Yorick
Ziggs
Zilean
Items
General
Co-op vs. AI
Twisted Treeline
Crystal Scar
some other info from reds:
This specifically has changed. You are correct Lifesteal didn't really belong in the offense tree. Lifesteal and Spellvamp are now bundled into the same mastery inside Utility. While it may not be popular among AD carry players to lose the LS from the offense tree, Utility as a whole has been made a more attractive choice for all character types.
and
"We're talking about the lifesteal and spellvamp masteries not runes. The runes are untouched as far as I know. "
Yes but no spoiler... yet
Well... That bit of news on lifesteal makes hybrids not suck as much, but they're still trashing our items instead of nerfing crit whores down from the end all be all...
On hit gets a little more sad.
yeah - guess we have to wait and see what all they will do. I like some of the things they are doing. Item's that disappear and you get to keep the gp/5 bonus, an item likely for a support that lets you promote creeps. Quite a few possibilities. I do hate not knowing when on earth we'll get any of this stuff though. The patch that is coming out tonight/tomorrow won't even have any of this stuff.
Just how many nerfs are ADC's getting.. :/
kinda goes without saying, but all mastery pages will be reset per riot - will happen once the masteries are live.
I hope they are nerfed into the ground. I so want to play WW in the new jungle in a bruiser meta.
actually had a fun everyone on my team is trollish game. Very nice change... oddly. Ended my night of terrible play with a win.
holy crap was I awful last night! Which brings me to my udyr build discussion. I'd love some feedback. So, its top lane udyr. His biggest strengths are early damage output and late game tanking. To give you an idea re: early game udyr, running attack runes, a single autoattack after changing to tiger stance does like 160 dmg or something like that + dmg for the aa itself (if I have it right anyway). So, all you really need to do to chunk a person down substantially is get in 1 hit (does magic dmg on that tiger proc). Then you can pick up and stay in turtle stance for awhile which regens hp and mana. So, excellent damage + excellent sustain. Late game should probably just be about being a tank that is a cc machine that has a little damage output. Here's how I've been building him.
boots + pots/ razor > wriggles / 2nd boots (merc or armor based on lane) / wit's end. Now, I'll vary the order of those items some based on lane, but that's pretty much my early game core.
The question is, what would be best next? I've gone aegis, randuins, frozen heart, frozen mallet. I think I might be building a team item a little early and perhaps need to adjust. Thoughts on a next item after wit's end?
mmm... patch and zed live.
Sorry about the games tonight boys... we didn't really give it our best showing...
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