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Sounds like the culture buff is wacked out. It should increase damage, but it shouldn't be stacking up like that, just a flat damage boost in culture.
I see no continual increases in damage outside of the normal culture increase. The numbers look in line with where they should be.
An Enslaver has a base beam damage of ~489 per second, you're gaining 5% damage and 3% firing rate from each level, so that's ~900 damage at level 10. The 60% weapon cooldown from the collective buff brings that to 1440. Culture adds another 15%, and then you have various other buffs being applied at times.
I expect what you're seeing is just the normal culture mechanism. When you are building culture at a place, the damage will go up with the strength of the culture, capping out at the researched benefit of 15%. It's not an on/off function.
Alright, I got caught off-guard when I saw it first start going up 1 at a time, and it looked like it wasn't going to stop (because it went up way past normal levels).
I forgot to tell you star trek: broken mirror 3 beta is out
Any timetable on the next release? Eagerly await the next chapter.
It's on me, I am taking some time off, playing through a few games I picked up on the summer sale.
Fine me on Steam chat if you want what we have so far, I can add you to the bEta team.
Sorry, I am sure it has been asked before, but how do I turn off the random raids in Diplomacy?As... interesting as they are... They are a bother that I can not handle. Not whilst trying to fight the Borg.
Also how do I go about fighting the Borg?
I am teamed up with the Klingons and Romulans. I fought and destroyed the Dominion. Was about to fight the Borg then got hit by 4-5 random raids. Eventually squashed them.
Finally hit the Borg and then they nearly crushed my whole fleet in seconds. Had to run with my tail between my leg, lost a good few ships to assimilation. Just how am I meant to fight that? How the Klingons and Romulans have kept them contained whilst I fought the dominion I have no idea.
Klingon & Fed both have cruisers (Fek'lhr , Norway & Intrepid) with anti-Borg abilities. If you're about to take on the Borg make sure your fleet has plenty of those classes. Galaxy classes with two or three points in Elite Engineers can help keep your fleet alive for no AM cost whilst the Borg exhaust their reserves.
In addition to the Feh'lhr, Klingon elites have abilities that are useful against the Borg, eg B'Ing Manoeuvre on the K'Vek will prevent any ship from retreating/regrouping by disabling engines, that can then bring it in range of the Fek'lhr's anti-Borg squad ability to further cripple the ship. The ultimate Ion Torpedo ability on the Vo'Dleh & Negh'Var will also disable any ship. I quite like the irony of capturing Borg cruisers with a level 2+ Kron elites - "Assimilate this!"
Though they don't have Borg specific abilities the Romulans have a few sneaky tricks on their elites. The D'Deridex's Disruptive Strikes ability will disable any ship for a while - quite handy for temporarily taking a cube out of the equation while your fleet deals with the cruisers, same goes for the ultimate ability on the Melak (Activate Sleeper) . The D'Verix has probably the best anti-Borg ultimate ability (Quantum Singularity Vortex) which disables, deals damage and depletes anti-matter (important to Borg ships) to any, and all, ships within range. Trick there is getting one to a high level. Winged Defender spam with the Plasma Torpedo ability can be a relatively cheap way of dealing massive amounts of damage to large, high value, targets, eg Cubes and starbases and can counter Borg regeneration abilities.
Abilities that spawn ships (Gemini effect, Sensor Ghosting, Call to Battle, Praetor's Talon etc) can be useful to generating a first wave of "assimilation fodder", though that usually requires a bit of micro'ing.
Assimilation abilities have a greatest chance of success when shields go down, so I prioritize shield research over weapon upgrades. Improved reactor research can provide a small edge in prolonged battles as you may be able to fire abilities more often.
If I notice Borg ships with AM regen bonuses (on their infocard), then I'll sometimes take out the Diamond cruisers - they provide a bonus to the rest of their fleet. A high-level (6+) Queen's Diamond elite is always a priority as it can prevent any Borg ship from being disabled.
Generally in this mod as in real life, your best way to win is to be a dirty bastard. Use every trick and ability at your disposal. The Federation can royally disrupt fleets with a couple Akiras using Antimatter Spread to hurt their accuracy (20% debuff is huge) and the Nova support cruisers spamming sensor ghosts to throw fake targets into space. That EW combo right there can really get rid of a lot of DPS that would otherwise be going after your actual ships. Combine with the Galaxy using the Gemini Effect and Elite Engineers and your fleet can keep going for a while. Also keep in mind Excelsiors are a vital fleet component because they're excellent combat vessels and excellent repair vessels. They take a long time to build, but you get what you pay for. Remember that you're the United Federation of Planets, and you should fight like it. Fight not to kill the enemy, but to keep on living.
Biggest threat when facing the Borg, are the Queen's Diamonds. At level 6, they are the absolute lifeblood of Borg capital ships since they prevent disabling. Make sure you focus them down first, rather than attacking any cubes that can resist disables (not to mention assimilated capital ships). I should also point out, I've done alright against the Borg by setting up shipyards and just pumping out mirandas, since the Borg are basically wasting their antimatter by capturing them at all
Thanks for the advice.After figuring out I just had to wipe out the NPC faction bases in the same way you wipe out pirates in the standard game, I was able to focus entirely on the Borg.Using your advice I was able to disable most Borg ships without too many of my own ships being assimilated. Once I wiped out their main fleet… which was quite large, filled with assimilated Klingons and Romulans. I was able to take out the Borg colonies, only occasionally being hit with counter attacks.
Eventually the Borg surrendered and the game was won, and then my self, the Klingons and Romulans went on to wipe out the last Borg planet with a huge combined force.
Now I have discovered the “Fortune Favours the Bold” map, which is excellent, exactly what I was looking for.
After looking about the web to figure out which faction starts in which location I was able to set up a “cannon” game.
Some questions though:
How do I set up in other locations other than Bajor?
Is their a way to name the other factions and select their portrait?
The game it self is surprisingly following the cannon closely.
1. Dark Blue – Federation – Bajor - Me
5. Light Blue – Federation – Earth
2. Red – Klingons - ? (Can’t remember the names of the Klingon starter planets)
6.Orange– Klingons - ?
3. Dark Green – Romulan –Romulus
7. Turquoise – Remans (Romulans) - Remus
4. Purple – Cardassians (Dominion) – Cardassia
8. Pink – Dominion – Whole Gamma Quadrant
Starting off I got some scouts up and running to see what the area was like. Had a little difficulty/slow start as I seemed to be surrounded by hostile pirate factions and most planets couldn’t be colonized until I had done some research for those types of planets.
Using the Enterprise-C type capital ship I was able to take a few planets and begin expanding. Got some research stations up and running and began my research.
Once I got up and running, I noticed my Starfleet ally was having some difficulty, again due to being surrounded by a lot of hostile pirate factions. Only owning Earth, Lunar and Venus.
I decided to help him out and sent my fleet over to help clear Mars and some of the other sectors out.
It was at this point I noticed the Klingons were being quite aggressive, having expanded a fair bit taking planets like Trillus Prime and Vulcan. Whilst I didn’t really want to go to war with the Klingons I felt I had little choice if I wanted my ally to survive.
Trillus Prime seemed like a great tactical location having a lot lanes going to it. I sent my fleet there and took the planet, then proceeded to fortify the location. It was a good thing I did as well as the area was continuously under attack by large fleets from the red Klingon faction. Several times I lost a fully upgraded Star Base.
During this time my Federation ally had been fighting a war with the Dark Green Romulans. Mainly around Uranus which kept changing hands. Pluto was oddly controlled by the Orange Klingons, who I had seen a little less off.
It was then that I noticed the Turquoise Remuns, only owned 1 planet which was Remus, with the rest of the Romulan sector belonging to Romulas. I was quite amused by this fact, as it fit cannon perfectly.
It was at this time I decided to try and make peace with the Red Klingon faction (for some reason the relation seemed to be +7~/-10~. Which I was hoping would make things easier. Over time I sent wave after wave of Diplomacy ships (and some resources) to all the Red Klingon planets, the ships would be lost but eventually I got a + modifier on my side.
Just when thing were looking up the Red Klingons sent a huge fleet to Trillus Prime, and engaged my main fleet. With the diplomatic relationship and 3.5 I was able to ask for a ceasefire, which the Klingons agreed to sparing most of our fleets.
With the ceasefire in place, my diplomatic ships had a much easier time and our diplomatic relationship started to shoot up. Things again were looking good but then for reasons unknown their view of me started dropping, it was up in the 15~ and dropped almost down to 5~ but with several requests to them to send diplomatic ships to my sectors, the relationship stabilised and then went back up. Now at a solid 20/20.
Up to this point the relations with the Dominion/Cardassia had been very quiet. I did notice scouts starting to come through the wormhole but nothing major. I did however decide to reinforce the DS9 sector with a Star Base, 6 capitol ships and 20 Akira’s. After all the Dominion did have the whole Gamma quadrant to them selves, and there must be a huge fleet waiting back there. With scouts coming through I knew they had wormhole travel researched, better to be safe than sorry.
Looking at Galaxy I noticed the Orange Klingons did not have many planets. In fact they mainly seemed to own Nebulas. It looks like the only planets they owned were the Klingon home world, Venus and Pluto.
With one solid Klingon alliance by my side, and this smaller one still causing trouble I decided to wipe the smaller faction out. Returning Pluto and Vulcan to my Federation ally and hopefully making the whole area a little more stable.
I took Pluto with no real problems as well as the different special anomalies scattered between it and Vulcan. Occasionally running into Romulan fleets now and then. I eventually made it to Vulcan, where I am now battling to retake the planet.
As all this was happening it had been a good thing I had begun to reinforce DS9. I had had a few minor skirmishes with the Dominion but nothing major. Normally resulting in the Dominion retreating.
However just as I began my attack to retake Vulcan and HUGE Domionion force came through the wormhole and so the battle for DS9 began.
And this is where I am now. I have had to come into work and will continue where I left off later.
I just like the fact that quite a few things match up to the cannon.
The Federation initially having a war with the Klingons and Romulans.
A peace treaty being made with the Klingons and then becoming allies.
The Romulans dominating the Romulan sector, other than Remus.
And finally a huge dominion force coming through the wormhole and war with the Dominion.
I just have to wonder what the Cardassians are up to.
hahaa! that was a great write-up of your ongoing game. Next time try it with the Borg
they are probably taking over all the Borg territory you left open so they may be huge. I would be scouting. Get enough resources built up that you can get a starbase up as a beachhead on the other side of the wormhole, then scout for a good planet to make a home base in that quadrant.
Best way to learn is to load the map in Galaxy Forge included in the SOA2 folder, and look at how it is set-up in text by opening the map in a text editor like notepad. In text the templates are at the bottom, and planets have an "Owner". The maps are in the SOA2\Galaxy folder.
It may be possible to set a picture for each but I have never tried. Typically the pictures use the sets randomly except the one you choose which all in that set will be the 1st 5 player pictures, players 6 through 10 I am not sure how it chooses.
I have not updated that map in a long time. If you make some good improvements, we may include it with a release with credit.
Decided to have a quick look and see what the Cardassians were up to. It seems they have glitched out They have not taken any planets at all and have a huge pile of credits. They do not even own Cardassia anymore someone has destroyed the system but not colonized it.
It looks as if no one owns anything in the Cradassian and Breen sectors. Any way to un-glitch them? Would playing as them and getting some colonies up help?
Odd. I hear they were messing with the AI in the last patch. Or maybe a random event like a Crystalline Entity or a Maquis ATR took out their home world? If you have them set to random or defencive, that may cause them not to spread. I typically put them all, or most, to aggressive.
Having some good fun with this. Trying to make peace with the Romulans but they are not making it easy. Some things are annoying me though.
Mainly my allies waring with each other. My Federation ally is starting to encroach on Klingon territory (Just took the Klingon Neutral zone) and I really do not want to lose them as my allies. Any way to tell them to try and make peace?
Give them attack and defense orders against common enemies, and you can hopefully distract them from making war on each other long enough to build solid positives with each other.
Unfortunately Sins was really not designed with multiple faction alliances in mind, so it's an effort to get common cause AI to actually ally up.
Right now the Crystalline Entity is terrorizing the Borg on an X class world they colonized. It has already destroyed several cubes. I did not know how funny that could be until I watched the Borg rush it with several ships only to die in glorious explosions.
Thanks SOA2 gents.
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Recently downloaded and played this mod a bit. Trying to find something to keep the interest of a friend of mine (he's a Star Trek buff whereas I'm more Star Wars) long enough for us to have a meaningful game without him falling asleep during....
Just a few possible balance feedback tidbits.
As a random comment (and I know you folks can't really do much about this), I love the use of the corvette movement style for all the ships... just sucks when two get into the indefinite run/chase pattern that leads them far outside the grav well. Sucks more when it's your AI ally's main Cap ship that gets involved in it (and slowly losing seems his is the one running) and you're not in a position to help... and yet need his (Borg attacking ).
Speaking of the Borg... a random thought/suggestion. Mind you, I'm more of a Star Wars person than Star Trek, so I don't know all of the lore in depth and all that (but not completely ignorant of the ST universe) and haven't played the mod in-depth yet, but I was wondering about the Borg's ability to adapt? I know currently you guys have it setup so that one of the main counters to the Borg is disabling (and if y'all want to stick to that, by all means go for it... just wanted to throw this out there)... but I was wondering about using shield mitigation? Specifically, having the Borg with higher start and max shield mitigation numbers than the other factions (much higher... ie, if you left Borg at Sins default, other factions would be 0% (start) to 15% (max)) and then giving the other factions abilities to counter this (so instead of disable, "remodulate" their weapons causing shield mitigation decrease to the target(s)). Just not sure if the rate at which shield mitigation climbs can be controlled, to make it a bit slower than Sins default. Would also be kind of cool if Borg were able to bypass shields now and again with their weapons (again, haven't played the mod in depth yet, so don't know if they already can).
Again, that was just a random thought/suggestion. Take or leave as you desire.
EDIT: Apologies, just happened to think of one other observation/suggestion I had.
I noted that the pacts factions can give one another as allies is different (at least with Rebellion... don't know how previous versions of Sins did it) in that instead of the pact itself giving the bonus, it merely unlocks a specific research. I assume this is mostly for allowing faction diversity in what the pacts allow and I actually applaud this. Where I see something that might need improvement is on the fact that 2 allies of the same faction, these pacts are worthless in the current setup as, for example, Federation, there are no researches for a Federation player that require a pact from another Federation player. While I understand this from the technological point of view (being the same faction, what technologies do they have to actually share?), it does mean there is nothing to encourage 2 like factions to ally up. I'm just curious if you folks would be willing to put some thought behind changing this? Something even as simple as trade income or trade ship HP boosts (symbolizing "increased security" or the trade lanes due to joint efforts) or even fleet supply boosts. Doesn't matter if the practical bonus is less than allying with a non-like faction... just so long as there is a bonus/encouragement for 2 like factions to ally.
Don't worry about posting feedback when you're not up on how everything works, it's quite alright. SOA2 is a bit... complicated. There are 3200+ entity files, half of that comprising an overly complex ability system. There are lots of diverse results, counter methods, and one hell of an overly complicated random event system for X class worlds. For comparison, vanilla Rebellion has just over 1800 entity files total. Odds are quite a few long time players have no idea how various features work. I designed the stuff, and I frequently have to relearn it before I make changes.
The Borg don't have shields, so shield mitigation is a bust. The Borg are also not balanced with regard to the other races. They're a challenge, something to ally up against. If two people of anything even remotely resembling even skill play the Borg against anything else, the Borg player is going to win, no matter how horribly unlucky they get with events and random map qualities. If people are playing the Borg, the recommendation would be to ally all other factions up to face one player as the Borg. You can solo the AI with a great deal of skill, but they were designed to be outnumbered and face roll the opposition. In the show, they sent a single cube as an offhand gesture, and wiped out entire fleets. Balanced just doesn't fit the bill.
As far as adaptation goes, Borg research trees have massive boosts compared to the other side, on the level of an order of magnitude greater.
There are also some adaptation based abilities. The Diamond's are the support ship in the fleet, the Queen version gives disable immunity(which counts for their own regeneration cycle) to allied elites, and the regular Diamond has two support abilities, one of which is specifically for boosting the mitigation of shields on captured ships.
The Sphere, and shipyards, also apply a buff to captured ships that stays in residence, which makes them significantly stronger than non-borgified counterparts.
As for bypassing shields, various ships have a shield stripper ability that does very high shield damage, making it a simple matter to rapidly remove them.
As far as pacts go, the encouragement to ally would, I think, be having an ally. Sins doesn't really have an AI capable of making strategic decisions on this front. Diplomacy is basically an exploit, you can easily game the system and make allies out of most players. The pact bonuses are primarily intended for a little extra when it comes to fighting off the Borg.
The numbered points.
1: Starbases are support structures, as they typically are in Trek. Starbases are routinely destroyed by individual ships, or small groups of ships, in Trek. With the method for multiple target design not focusing on fewer than the max target count, a Starbase has very poor damage against single targets even though it drops quite a bit in a fleet battle. The dreadnought is far from the only ship that can solo one. A few of those turrets will make a big difference here.
That said, the dreadnought is sick. If you can't deal with it, let it have the planet. It will blow itself up to take it out. Spawn rates for various things have been adjusted, and will be further if shown to be problematic.
2: Disruptor overload will have it's self damage nerfed. The ability does double your damage output though, so taking damage isn't a bad trade, it's just a buggery AI that autocasts when it isn't needed.
3: What maps? Hardass mode should be concentrated towards the inner rings. You shouldn't be starting next to a bunch of planets with Son'a Battleships, or multiple Ferengi D'kora's. Anything impossible to drop with the starting cap and a few light frigates should typically be a jump or two off to give you room to expand.
4: Fighters don't move extremely fast in Trek, compliments of inertial dampening. As far as speeds go, structures/units were half-scaled to make gravity wells larger by comparison. Speeds are, relative to that change, faster in SOA2 than vanilla Sins. With wells being effectively larger, it does take longer to get across one, but there is no long charge time to jump out. Damage to hitpoints is the factor you're running up against. Combat is a little faster in SOA2, so you need to bug out earlier than you would in vanilla Sins.
Re: Borg - Oh, their ships didn't even have shields? Whoops... I didn't realize that. Ok then!
But yeah, I did read the website and the description on the factions so knew going in that the Borg were an OP faction designed purposely to require multiple players to take out. And really, that fits what I know of ST canon. I have no issues with that.
Thanks for the response!
I'd recommend using the standard random's. The SoA tagged random's are myfist0's project, a matter of personal preference. One of the primary differences is the start for the normal random map is two adjacent asteroids, while the SoA maps are one asteroid and a militia populated ice/volc like vanilla sins. There are more good planets on them as well, which makes for a more beefy set of neutrals as a result.
Planets with better defenders will tend to be better planets, so while it's a bigger pain to clear the Ferengi off an ocean than it is for the pirates, it will trend toward better bonuses too.
You may want to change the following line in the colonize abilities on Cap ships:
to the following:
Not sure if that's a Rebellion only use time.... But anyway, I've noticed that with auto-cast on (which is how the AI will use it), they tend to colonize the planet without clearing it first and result in the planet being bombed out from under them while they're still working on trying to clear it.
Hmmm... maybe good for AI, but players may want to colonize before all is clear. I take out siege ships, then colonize. Some NPC dont even bomb.
It actually will engage before "all clear"... in Sins default, asteroids that are usually guarded by 1 LF and 1 Siege it will auto-cast. But if the player wants to colonize sooner, it doesn't stop them from manually using it.
I prefer the myfist0 maps.
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