This is what I would like to see.
Cykur vs Tyr222
Winner vs JJ
Maps shall be premade (from sanchez or astax) and agreed upon by both parties.Both parties shall agree ahead which race they will play.Both parties shall have access to map ahead of time for creation of strategies pregame.Parties may agree to best out of 1 or 3.Winning game replay shall be posted.Winner takes all and is champ.
Game will be based off pure map equality and pure strategic and micro skill for all of ICO community.(at least to me as I would rate these top 3).1v1 ladders are extremely difficult to organize and keep up so I would love to see this small tourny take place and keep it simple.If there are those that would like to challenge them with same maps and rules and post it then they can boast.
These would be the mother of all replays so CYKUR COME BACK TO GAME and all take part and show us your skills[e digicons][/e]
Here is maps of choice for 1v1 to download:
Davin's pack (which includes my stuff<<-Dirty Sanchez) can be found here:
http://tinyurl.com/Sins6
Setup.exe is an autoinstall program. The other file is for manual installation.
My maps theselves can be found here:
http://tinyurl.com/Sins3 or
http://www.filefront.com/13897415/DirtySanchez_Maps3.zip/
Hell I could program a map generator, with all the goodies people wanted (I guess). Thing is, how the heck could it be incorporated into the game?
Can this be made into a MASSIVE 1V1 TORUNMENT?
I aint that good with 1v1's (Commander SunnyVS) from what I heard, the Hawk is amazing.
Some say that his genitals are on upside down, and that if he could be bothered, he could crack the Da Vinci code in 43 seconds...
all we know, hes called the Hawk.
Hey Astax I havent seen you in forever.Do you still play?I would rate you prolly in top 5 and major contender.Sunny I would like to see you 1vs Klemzy.I think klemzy is underrated cause he plays around like trying to kill a cap with martyrdom[e digicons]:rofl:[/e] good times.Klemzy is def top notch player when he serious.This 1v1 is really for anyone who wants to pllay.If you can get someone to vs you on a premade map post it.My original post is who I want to see 1vs.
If the game engine won't let us specify how many extractors and how much militia is on a given planet, then it would be nice to be able to set two or more planets to be "mirrors" of one another. That's probably just not part of their engine though. (Hope Sins-2 is more sophisticated in these regards.)
Regarding the 1v1 maps, whoever is managing the tournament should pick out the ones he wants to use and then have mappers add 8 spectator spots.
I still haven't gotten any feedback on any of my maps as to which ones play better in online play. Sure, I've given lots of them a whirl, but I'm their creator and therefor biased.
Being in constant practice and being very familiar with the "flavor of the patch" killer strategy gives players an edge online. The best players probably can't really identify who is the "very best" because it is pretty subjective. Some players are better in some roles or on some types of maps than others. No one wins every game, and people tend to remember the times they beat you while dismissing the times they lost to "bad luck". And besides, many of them don't want to be known as "the best" they just want to smurf the crap out of you.
Krath is extremely good and certainly a candidate. The 1v1 we played a while back when I returned from a hiatus was an excellent chance to see how Vasari were stacking up against a well played TEC.
I think there are a lot of good players right now. People tend to hold some of the old timers in the highest regard when it comes to skill, but it could just as easily be a more recent arrival who has benefitted from all of the information available on the forums, plays the game constantly, and has mastered the flavor of the month.
The thing is, checking back on this, I don't see many people signing up to play. You can't just nominate the people you think are best and put them in a playoff. Everyone seems to want to see a replay, but where is the line of people who want to play??
I'm with JJ, you would probably have to track stats by CD key to really know what was going on. If there was a benefit to being known as the best, why are their so many smurfs?
ps. I considered JJ my biggest contender when my gaming dropped off back in April. He has played how many games since then?! You does the math.
I know I know.JJ and Tyr have well over 1000 games that alone nominates them.They are the only ones with that many games and thats on their main account.I thought that deserves a game between the 2.
You spin a hook with the title like it is though, and most people can't help thinking how to stack up a tourney in interests of ," Calling out the best player on ICO". IMO, to do that, you have to include those in current form like Krath, Greyfox, Archnemesis, fortune, and several others.
I agree that for a proper competition, perhaps a comprehensive skillset would require a playoff type picture to include one game minimum against each opponent playing each race, and an elective elimination series (if needed) of two or more games when a player is facing elimination and using player prefered race. The mapsets could be predertemined (I particularly like the 8 spectator option), and in later rounds selected by the top seeds. I'm not sure exactly how, but I think an elimination ladder could be structured to include all of this.
What I am sure of however is that all of the replays would be awsome and a lot of fun to watch.
I never said I was trying to start a ladder just get some really good games going.Anyone can 1vs anyone and post the replay on here.If enough people play then you can base best player on ico by how many and who he beats.The only way for someone to really say they beat them is if the map isnt random thats why I think they should be played on premades.JJ cyk and tyr wil most likely make the best replays and maybe teach new people how to play.JJ and tyr have earned the right to be the top 2 imo based off sheer number of games they played.JJ and tyr dont have to play and neither does anyone else but if anyone wants to test their skills against someone else post the replay for us to watch [e digicons][/e] .Oh yeah if they do play there is no commitment they dont have to play anymore 1vs if they dont want to.
Replays I wanna see: Cykur vs Tyr, then Winner Takes on JJ.
Having, "Calling Out the Best Player in ICO.." in the title is just hollow and shameless sensationalism. It ignores all the players that others might have in consideration. Because of this, your premise is frankly indefensible.
[e digicons]:rolleyes:[/e] Ill call my threads whatever I want and you call yours whatever you want ok?
Tournament style gameplay is not a means of deciding the champion. Whoever loses the first game will not be able to combat jj. Everyone needs to fight everyone once, or 2/3, and the player with the most wins is champion.
In the event of a tie, a new competition will take place with all tied members involved, same rules. Repeat until victory, or stalemate.
This is the only way to be accurate, because there are more than one opponent out there, and just because there is one person you can't beat, doesn't mean he/she can beat everyone they fight. Hell, you might be the only one they can beat for some reason. Then you're eliminated and the competition becomes meritless.
btw, why wasn't Amish/Darvin included there somewhere? They seem to really know the game/strategy here.
And I am going to use this thread as the prime example
Exile noone will sign up if they are required to play x amount of games or x amount of people.Thats why its better left up to the players.If you want to see any replays of the most skilled players then it needs to be at their leisure.They have already tried a more formal tourny.Altho I dont think this one will take off it was worth a try.
Someone would have to take up the position of moderator. Have everyone sign up for the tournament on a different thread, list their names at the top, then lock it at the deadline. Those people will be in. Then make a playing schedule that will allow everyone on that list to play eachother. The tourney will take however long it takes to finish, probably a few months. I'm not volunteering, mind you. Just a suggestion. IDK if i would even sign up for it, as i concider myself a competent player, but not a master.
[e digicons]:ninja:[/e] -Exile
btw, there's no reason to change the thread's name. Stop causeing trouble. He just wants to know who's best. The title fits fine.
Sorry about the double post.
Because we're the guys who are known for being book smart. Darvin and I fall into the category of know just about everything there is to know, but in terms of experience, we don't have as much as others just cause we don't play as much. A lot? Well....once upon a time I was the JJ, and Cykur was my Tyrs, but not anymore.
Every time I play against Tyr, I have a bad habit of starting 2 or 3 jumps away from him. I'm reminded every time this happens (in a violently catastrophic manner) just how far I have left to go in terms of experience.
I have the same problem darvin.Tho I love taking a crack at him everychance I get.Im always hoping I start next to him when he is on opposing team.
Proto do you even play online cause I never see you.You obviously dont know what you are talkin about and unless you are willing to state you can beat jj tyr or cykur 1v1 then su.I have been playing mp for a long time.jj and tyr prob have more like 1500-2000 games in mp.Please tell me who you know on ico that has that many games.Its an open ended tourny so all can challenge and post replay.So why do you keep complaining?
Proto and I were talking in another thread. Apparently we had a game together some time ago. His account name was "Cheesebrain" iirc. He was a competent Advent player, but we didn't actually interact that much. I spent most of the game fighting Ferdie.
So once again thanks for realizing your error and admitting you were wrong.
Now where is that thread about a tourney?
Read the original post I welcome all to play.I said anyone can challenge.Its always been that way.Seems logical to me to put the most experienced and well known players at the top of the list when looking for the best player and work your way from there.If you arent better then them then why are you complaining.You havent mentioned anyone you think is better. I am inviting people for competition and boasting rights. There is alot of smacktalk on ico and people can have a chance to back it up. If you dont like my thread then by all means go start your own and get people to play.I am not stopping you.
What names did you use when you played me?
i would love to take part in this...so i take any challengers and i challenge any one thatwants to give this a go, but be aware im not one to ask for nor grant rematches, and win or lose ill post the replay on here...so bring it on
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