wooow this is so amazing, how jim just sayd ure guys are great!!!

these movements of the brel and the hits of the desrupters. just nice...

pls make much more of those vids, PLSSSS

but one think nerfs me again why are the galor cruisers so underpowerd? i mean 1 galor class can fight agains 3 brels and win if the commander is not a fool. i mean its a cruiser. some say its in version 3 a heavy cruiser. and 3 galors can defeat a galaxy.

(and 2 galors and 1 hedeki can put down a vorcha )

in the video the cardassians should easy win agains these kling brels and the 3 old cruisers.

will u make them stronger shimmer? or are the stats final?

but really this is so great to see. plsplspls more vids. n1 work! just amazing!

the Galors in the game have been balanced actually....

Galors are frigates not cruisers, they were replaced by better cruisers and the keldon is a capital ship

just put galor in google and u will never read its a frigate. its a cruiser sry.

i dont get it y people are making cardassians ship worser then they are

perhaps u can make different versions? one destroyer and one cruiser? so cardassians have 2 more ships in the game u know?

or even 3 vversions. one des and 2 cruisers 4 example?

There are other card cruisers like the brutus which we felt would make better cruisers. The Galor didn't go without love though, it is a heavy frigate. We knew that some people would disagree with the Galor as a frigate, but lets face it, Cards are limited in ship designs, so we had to go with non-canon ships. However, we felt the non-canon ships would make better cruisers. I also felt that making the Galor too light would cause issues, so i made it a heavy frigate instead. 

Lets face it trek is all non standard, if we don't make a line of which ships are which, then every ship would be considered a cruiser, and whats the fun in that? go lookup databases and see which canon ships are frigates, cruisers for each race. You'll find just about every limited ship directory is a cruiser. for some examples

Klingons:

Vorcha

kvort

Brel (if youu account for all its refits its also a cruiser) most common ship in production

D7 (still used in the fleet if you account for its upgrades its also a cruiser)originally a cruiser in TOS, TMP

maurader

federation explorer classes (cruiser)

miranda

constitution

constellation

intrepid

defiant (escort class) heavy cruiser

Romulans only currently have 3 ships canon none are cruisers

warbird, valdore (both are battleships)

talon (shuttle)

most of the canon dominion ships are battleships and 1 frigate which is so OP it should be a cruiser

Cardassians:

Galor - Destroyer aka heavy frigate

Keldon - Heavy Cruiser

Hideki - frigate

so if we don't do some normalization no one would enjoy the mod. Remember that trek equals constant inconsistant data!

FYI  the Rommies have more then just 3 cannon ships,

your forgetting the Scout and the Science vessel that were used in TNG  your also forgetting the Rommie Bird of Prey and Rommie D7(altho that was aquired from the klingons so it would kinda be Pointless)

The cardassions are indeed hard to make cannon, Since the hedeki galor and keldon are all we ever saw

Klingons would be easy, had a load of ships seen by them,  D7, Brel, Kvort, Vor'cha, Negvar  and the ship from the last episode,  the Fek'ler.. altho that still leaves alot of holes at least for Sins

God damn, the way those ships move is just fantastic

Can't wait to play it!

I have to admit, I'm impressed with what I am seeing in the videos.  I have a few questions:

1. Will you be willing to make the pre-compiled entity files available for those who wish to "tweak" the balance of the ships for their own use when you releas the mod? 

2. Would you release the entity files for SoA2 0.03c so that I have something to do while I wait (Since I can't get into beta)?

3. Will you be changing the phaser file color for the Defiant to the traditional yellow(ish)?  Maybe it was the video, but it seemed while.  It's a small thing, I know...but there's something about seeing yellow for phaser fire...especially the pulsed phasers that the Defiant has - that would be sweet.

Well, that's all the questions I have so far.  Thanks for all the hard work.  I hope you can release this soon.

could a video with sound be released? Or has audio not been added yet?

beemer127, the released files have been converted to bin, and you just NEED to use the correct convertdata_originalsins.exe version to convert all the files back to TXT format for tweaking. from what I remember I think that the 1.15 convertdata will convert soa_2_0.03c to txt

harpo

one question i have

someone mentioned controlling the ships in large battles during movment would be hard, i figured that  preforming fleets would solve this.. however that line of thinking brought me to the idea of   Fleet Distance feature for sins.. 

Being able to select how spread apart your fleet is  is kind of useless at least in vanilla sins.. however  with your mobility added in.. i wonder how this effect will work..    you guys going to script that feature  to have ships move a little more organised depending on what setting you set it to?    Thinking like  Formations in other games..

To put it in DS9 terms from the show..    haveing frigates escorting cruisers in formation while fighting..  in DS9 for example they had 2 mirandas  moveing with the defiants for cover..  wondering if thats plausable

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Hey loki when you have  a moment wanna chat with you on borg entity files thanks josh