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Cykur
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Reply #926 January 9, 2013 7:40:45 PM
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Quoting Chris11,
reply 924
I'd like to suggest having more tiers. The skill gap between players is to large for 3 tiers. There are players in each tier that can crush others that are in the same tier so this list is very misleading.


You have to take these lists with a grain of salt.  They are subjective, rough estimates based on the judgement of other experienced players over many, many games.  Some players are good 1v1 (and some aren't!), but don't coordinate well as a team player.  Some are really good at early game rushing but aren't as good late game, while others try to focus on end-game strategies.  Some are 1 trick ponies while others are flexible and unpredictable.  Some give up easily, while others are more valuable to a team because you know they won't quit just because they aren't doing well in their part of the map.

This list is a heck of a lot better than nothing.  You could have more Tiers, but it would be extremely difficult to figure out where players fit without an automated system.  Besides, no one is stopping you if you want to create your own more detailed list. 


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Reply #927 January 9, 2013 9:15:49 PM
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Quoting Cykur,
reply 926

Quoting Chris11, reply 924I'd like to suggest having more tiers. The skill gap between players is to large for 3 tiers. There are players in each tier that can crush others that are in the same tier so this list is very misleading.

You have to take these lists with a grain of salt.  They are subjective, rough estimates based on the judgement of other experienced players over many, many games.  Some players are good 1v1 (and some aren't!), but don't coordinate well as a team player.  Some are really good at early game rushing but aren't as good late game, while others try to focus on end-game strategies.  Some are 1 trick ponies while others are flexible and unpredictable.  Some give up easily, while others are more valuable to a team because you know they won't quit just because they aren't doing well in their part of the map.

This list is a heck of a lot better than nothing.  You could have more Tiers, but it would be extremely difficult to figure out where players fit without an automated system.  Besides, no one is stopping you if you want to create your own more detailed list. 


This.

 

That and there's no way I would even want to attempt to sub-divide the existing tiers.  I would be forever changing the list.

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candido-
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Reply #928 January 10, 2013 12:36:41 AM
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Quoting Seleuceia,
reply 926
I all know is that I'm pissed as fuck that I don't get my own tier....

Every official list on these forums has a Seleuceia tier....

 

LOL, very well said. 

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lanesra111
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Reply #929 January 10, 2013 4:58:10 AM
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Hi I'm Dumdeedum

 

I feel that this list has become too big, it is meant to be a Gold list of best players not a whose who. I don't think im good enough to be on a Gold list as i make way to many stupid mistakes in a game and I know many others on these list do.

I thought these lists were originally meant to be about the elite (best of the best). To me the lists are now total waste of time not what How originally did them for i reckon, you can correct me on this.

I would prefer an elite list of the best players not an ever growing list of better than average players(I include me when I say that).

But that is only my opinion.

 

Regards

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Mr_Book
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Reply #930 January 10, 2013 8:34:13 AM
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Gold list, not God list. 

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Seleuceia
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Reply #931 January 10, 2013 8:57:05 AM
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Then make it a Platinum List...

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Teun-A-Roonius
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Reply #932 January 10, 2013 3:56:28 PM
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Quoting Seleuceia,
reply 932
Then make it a Platinum List...
Lol exactly.

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ZombiesRus5
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Reply #933 January 10, 2013 4:36:43 PM
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dumdeedumdum

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UniverseT
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Reply #934 January 10, 2013 5:09:03 PM
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I am curious who you are "Just another name"

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UniverseT
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Reply #935 January 10, 2013 5:14:48 PM
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Quoting JustAnotherName,
reply 922

Quoting Teun-A-Roonius, reply 918If ColdFront and Ekko are on tier two its about time to put me there as well... (Also because Hiro is continually teasing me about the unthoughtful remark I made a few days ago). At least put me on the list too, I deserve that much!

I also miss VeteranCorp and OurTerra btw. Might be me being blind though...


I crush ColdFront (Universe) every single game i've played with him so far even during my first week of the game. But I don't think I'm at the level of some tier 2 players yet so where should I go?

This list is pretty outdated imo.

 

lol..

 

Yes and who are you exactly? I hardly ever get "crushed" and when I do I remember it. Like around ten or so games ago I played Hiroge and yes, I was "crushed".

 

So please do tell me who you are.

 

CF.

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Nightraid3r
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Reply #936 January 10, 2013 7:24:02 PM
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Reformatting of Tier 1/2/3 suggestion

 

Tier #1

  • Auqia
  • JohnJames

Tier #2

  • Quar
  • Doci
  • PlayerSlayer

Tier #3

  • Radioactive
  • Howthe?
  • Anhpp
  • ZuoAn
  • Suzhijiang
  • Hiroge
  • Siddy

Tier #4

Rest of what is tier 1 currently

Also Multiz is on the list twice, and seems to have gotten significantly worse as of late.

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Reply #937 January 10, 2013 7:27:58 PM
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Quoting Nightraid3r,
reply 937
Reformatting of Tier 1/2/3 suggestion

 

Tier #1


Auqia
JohnJames

Tier #2


Quar
Doci
PlayerSlayer

Tier #3


Radioactive
Howthe?
Anhpp
ZuoAn
Suzhijiang
Hiroge

Tier #4

Rest of what is tier 1 currently

meh, boring then, why waste a thread on it.

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Reply #938 January 10, 2013 7:30:10 PM
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Quoting ZombiesRus5,
reply 938



meh, boring then, why waste a thread on it.

 

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Reply #939 January 10, 2013 8:14:58 PM
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Star, agree with your assessment, but I think we should leave the list intact.  Added a King of the Hill - SOOOOOO Close tier.

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ReD-RubY
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Reply #940 January 10, 2013 8:33:46 PM
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ahahah still.

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Seleuceia
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Reply #941 January 10, 2013 10:29:38 PM
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Futsol should probably be up there...

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JustAnotherName
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Reply #942 January 10, 2013 11:59:39 PM
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Howthe should belong in the same group as doci playerslayer ooloo.

And a few China players are at least tier 1 imo. I can assure u that if u pick any 5 in tier 1 vs them, they will beat u 90% of the time.

Akaihane

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Ekko_Tek
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Reply #943 January 11, 2013 12:02:29 AM
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Quoting Teun-A-Roonius,
reply 943
Howthe should belong in the same group as doci playerslayer ooloo.

And a few China players are at least tier 1 imo. I can assure u that if u pick any 5 in tier 1 vs them, they will beat u 90% of the time.

Akaihane

There are already 3 Chinese players listed in tier1.

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Reply #944 January 11, 2013 12:43:40 AM
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I meant at least tier 0.

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Seleuceia
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Reply #945 January 11, 2013 2:11:41 AM
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The Chinese people are good at rushing, but have severe flaws in their mid and late game plays...that may someday be different, but as for now I don't think they compare to the likes of Auqia, Ooloo, or How....

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Reply #946 January 11, 2013 4:08:58 AM
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Quoting Seleuceia,
reply 946
The Chinese people are good at rushing, but have severe flaws in their mid and late game plays...that may someday be different, but as for now I don't think they compare to the likes of Auqia, Ooloo, or How....

This is true but at least 3-4 of them should be in tier 0 and not 1. And if they can rush a tier 1 to win 90% of the time....yes they are still better in a way. I do agree that most of them are lacking in the late game though. But how many games actually go into late game without the game been decided at early-mid game? Those players that do not want to leave a losing game dont' fall into the late game category.

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Mr_Book
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Reply #947 January 11, 2013 9:52:53 AM
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I disagree that JakeMac and DeceptivePanda are tier 1.  Both solid players but not to the level of anyone else in that group.  I know I'm picked before either of them 9 times out of 10.  Not trying to build myself up here but just last night Jake used his tier 1 status as an excuse for some sort of exploit he is using (that he refused to discuss what he was doing while asking me to help him test it).

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Reply #948 January 11, 2013 9:55:11 AM
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Also, I think Candido should be tier 1.  He doesn't make mistakes and always handles his business regardless of who he is facing of against.  That plus he is a phenominal team player and always can be relied on at the strategic level as well as the tactical.

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Reply #949 January 11, 2013 9:59:25 AM
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Just for the sake of spam, one more suggestion: 

The lower skilled tiers should have more people in them then the higher ones.  I'd take probably 3 to 5 of the "tier 1" and move them into tier 2, and about 6 to 8 of the tier 2 and move them into tier 3. 

 

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Reply #950 January 11, 2013 12:07:01 PM
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Candido can move to tier 1, but that's all I'm going to change for now.

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