This is threas where i will write the names of skilled players and they known smurfs.
I will try to describe play style of players aswell.
There will be 3 tires of skill qualifications. And player must recognised in MP games as a regular player to entter here.
The fist skill tire is for players who have deep knowledge of Sins and its MP mechanics. They can adapt and improvise on flight; know how to use and understand all abilities, terrain, units and combinations. Players, who have understanding of what economy is for. Players that play to win.
1#
[DT]Tyr222 - A strong offensive player who will often go for the quick kill. One of the hardcore players araund, the fracker even times the assilants vollies so nothing goes to waste. Will abuse anything overpowered to its fullest potetnital. Known smurfs: *None* - Rated so far by: Siddy
[DT]P5yy - One of the oldest Sins multi player still in action. Advent spesialist and hardcore illuminator abuser.
As ancient player he is, you might find him a bit sleepy form time to time, but dont let that fool you. Known smurfs: *None* - Rated so far by: Siddy
JohnJames - Old timer comeback, original name is not know, but claims to be araund from times of [GE]Haeso. Original name is still unknown. Favors vasari (sucks with TEC) and is realy realy agressive neutral grabber. Also will rush the living shit out of anyone if feedet. Known smurfs: <Sting>, Puc. - Rated so far by: Siddy
The Second tire is for promising players who share many same qualities as the first tire, but dont play for win, they play to win with 'style'. This often cripples them against first tire, as it makes them waste recources on presonal quirks.
Genraly, second tire player can be same as first tire player if he just want to quit the gimmics. With some polish.
2#
[DT]Howthe? - Hoples vasari/advent player who cant cope with fighter or neutralgrabbing micro managing. Eternal "i cant quite scout right" Known smurfs: *None* - Rated so far by: Siddy
[DT]WHIPperSNAPper - Howthes twin sepparated at birth, play so alike that you whuld be having hard time to tell who is who.
[DT]Gini- Rudest player sins got to offer, comes only second to Siddy, when someones feelings must be hurt. Also, one of the best TEC economist's ever. In frontile gini is medicore, but as a support and ecowhore, there is no beter players. Known smurfs: *None* - Rated so far by: Siddy
Third tire is for players who understand the baisics, such as why you need fleet for, what ships countters what ships but, cannont to improvise on flight. Often rely on pre-learned tactics and lack the knowledge or experience to adapt to unexpectd. 3rd tire is by no mean "bad", in sence that they can beat 80% of namless Sins players, but act more on programming than will.
3#
Radioactive - DT fanboy, can play all races the same way, spamm LRM/illu/assilants and then some carrirs. Last time i heard, he were rolled over by cobalt rush. Known smurfs: Winged penis - Rated so far by: Siddy
[_]-harla - Not a very useful thing.... Known smurfs: *None* - Rated so far by: Siddy
[_]-Flipkik - Not a very useful thing either. Known smurfs: *None* - Rated so far by: Siddy
Im open for sugjestions and corrections to this list, and i will update it as i get feedback and proper data from MP games.
Remember that you can contest the rattings, add your own and challenge the rankked players.
Also, now new "speshul" tire. For peoples whos parents lied to you. Your not special, your jusut... Speshul...
#Spesuhl tire
Ravok - Because you are speshul and we all lub you and remeber ADT with tears in our eyes! Rated by: Siddy
Kitesurf - Havent seen so big mouth combining with with equaly large conentration of STUPID before. Rated by: Siddy
S_o_L - Butthurt drama queen, Kitesurfs fanboy No1. Rated by: Siddy
Ravok, if you dont appease me with karma, before the next time we play... ill remind you of this as i colonize your former HW and rename it TYR NEEDS KARMA!!!
^Lol that was win, What are you trying to do Redeem you karma for Gode Mode points like Annatar
your karma has been given
Someone please write a review of [_]-aggroed. Known smurfs are aggroed's smurf, DTpunchingbag and cupcake. I'd argue top of teir 2 heap, nearing teir 1. I don't 1v1 much, but basically any player listed that isn't already teir 1 I've beaten personally on a 5v5 board (the 1v1 within the bigger game).
Second, stop flaming DT. The reason they are all on the list is cause they have 10 of the top 15 players in the game. They might be asses at times, but at least they are skilled. Tyr, I'm still meaning to cut you for switching teams.
Third, I'm thinking mirco needs to be rated high, but it's not the only thing. There are plenty of talented guys that refuse to give resources to those that need them because they think they can do more with the resources, which is prolly true, but still epic fails cause they let teammates die. There are also good 1v1ers who like to pick daisies on new planets while their teammates are getting violated. Some peeps haven't learned that dead teammates are a bad thing in the long run. So, some of the better mircoers don't make for good teammates all around. For example, the only times I've seen JJ lose are when he's feeding rather than fighting. If I knew he was gonna be in a feeding slot I can think of 20 players I'd rather have there despite the fact that he's hands down #1 anywhere else on the board.
This game has 3 main roles, feeder, rusher, guard. You gotta know and be able to play all three roles and be able to play and counter multiple races. Take the key race from some of those top players and they are second teir at best. I know I'm not the best microer in the game, but at least I know my roles and how to play them.
We also need a clan ranking system. I propose this order:
1. DT,
2. [_],
3. everybody else,
4. SA.
Finally, I'd like to nominate Moonbox as the single worst Sins player in the game. That's with love bud, but your muy terrible.
Are the planet name strings long enough for that??? Lucky Tyr has a short name....
Considering that each map has at least one planet named Tyr by default...That's like +100 karma.
lol how giving tyr +100 karma
DrReich why SA last? Have you played any SA some people on it do suck... But theres always someone like that in every clan.
And why am i not mentioned once in this post...?
-25 kharma to tyr... jus as soon as i figure out how.
and as to their being 3 types rusher, guard, and eco slot
id put that off and say that guard is a wasted column, it means your rush failed or your team did not feed you enough or help enough for you to handle a 2v1 momentarily... a 2v1 means that ur eco guy gets a free run, and the rest of ur team should finish 1v1's very fast.
eco slot and ATTACKER would be more accurate... if ur not gaining 10cred/s every 5 mins, stalling 3 players while the rest of ur team mops up their team, or attacking --- u are getting smashed
never "guard" pack up a cap or 2, build 20 scouts to reak havoc and help the vas players take the neutrals, and retreat behind the line if u cant win. NEVER guard... if you can effectively fight off a 1v2 without feed that is jus rushing with no phase jumps
and if your team has to feed you to be on the defensive, well, on a scrub 5v5 that may not matter. but in a skilled 5v5 having one of ur team mates on the defensive WITH feed means hes been outplayed and will die without a better feed than anything the others get, which means that somewhere else on the line someone is getting rick rolled...
did i say never guard yet?
attack and kill your guy, get 1 in eco, or ur dead weight end of story
-bronze
25 kharma to tyr... jus as soon as i figure out how.
rofl bron i know what you mean it is the thubms up sighn
Looks like Tyr won't get his Karma as there is no way you can figure out "How"... He is an enigma etc... etc...
(I made a funny!!!)
I didn't get it?
How?
Oh I got the part where he was mentioning you I just didn't see "How"... it was funny
Everyone is a critic...
It is funny (plus witty and cleaver) as Bronze said he would give karma to Tyr when he figured out how - I made a play on words to mean that "when he figures out How" (the player) as opposed to figures out how to give karma via the forums.
Get it now???
Bronze wtf? thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard you say, and you say some pretty retarded shit.
if its a 5v5 and you have 2 enemys to one side and 3 enemys to the other, then you turtle your ass and prevent both your neighbors from going eco whore just based upon your presence. even if you do lose, you want to make them upg their fleet tax as high as possible before you die so you fuck their eco whoreing. and further more the whole time your surviving in there you team has 1 more eco slot and when you pack it in your team has 1 less.
granted "Guard" isnt the proper term for that situation how about if your being pushed back on your front so your on defense but the ally behind you is the eco slot. your responsability is to hold off the enemy for as long as possible to prevent exposeing you eco player too soon. id say its a completly differant stratagy defending you and your allied planets than it is to attack your enemys
based upon thats id say you have offense, defensive, and econamic players, further more id break all 3 of those broad catagories into several sub catagories
i.e. offense can be broken down into, slow sweep destroying/ captureing/ pasifyin all enemy planets. raiding infrastructure. rushing homeworld. hunting fleets.
i.e. defense can be broken down into turtleing, guarding eco, stalling for eco/ infra, trapping enemy fleets
i.e. eco can be broken down into all out imidiate trade port spam for late game feed, quick nuetrals grabs and first 10 sec feeds for brutal rushes, rush infra for team tecs, id even put RA into eco slot like the last game i played with JJ and KL and ecoed a massive RA ftw
Gents, I created a new player skill track list that I hope to actually keep updated. It appears Siddy has no desire to actually update his list.
https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/338710
Neat list and nice reviews.
tyr is as wrong as always... i blame his job for despoiling his innocence.
but fact remains that tactic will ONLY work in a 5v5 skilled tyr,, in a scrub match where u cant depend on ur allies ur probably prolonging the innevitable loss, most eco players cannot stop feeding and build up a proper fleet in time to save them, and their logistic slots will be maxed without upgrades, all u would need to cripple him is kill his builders a few ships per world and attack any planet that has a frig factory, finish that and smash just 2 of the civillian labs and VOILA!! a crippled eco player with NO fleet. he dies fast too. NOW u have a team that is short 2 players who can turn around and feed the people that would stand a better chance of surviving a 1v1 than ur teams 1v2. bottom line, other than tyr spewing nonsenical nonsense to make himself look pretty, is that not a single strat from a skilled 5v5 can translate over to a pug or a scrub match and still be viable. all the playbooks go out the window and small feeds and all 5 players rushing wins the day. it is simply not possible to explain that kind of strategy in a game with 4 people u dont know, with 2 probably having less than 50 games.
neway, like i said, leave defense for the skilled players out there, spend ur first 150 games rushing or tec'n military/eco.
Why dont i see bronze online anymore.
because he's [DT]bronze now and you'll probably have to update your friends list. I haven't seen him this week though.
Well sorry i went to army :/ howthe...
idk bro. you dont seem tier 1 material
Finally someone who see's the light. (post #2)
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