With the Start11 v2.07 beta release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.
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Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 v2 a better product.
This isn't new, this has been how Start11 works since day one.You can set a centred taskbar in Start11 itself from the start button page.
I realise I can set the start button to be centered in Start11, however that's not the point.
The question is why does using the enhanced option alter the system taskbar settings so that it that the system taskbar can not be set to left when when that has no bearing on what happens in Start11 but does alter what happens to other utlities.
It has no effect on what happens to START11 so can it just leave the sytem alone ?
Is something going to be done about the Object Desktop manager telling me to download an update to Start 11 V2 all the time?
I have version 2.07, the latest version.
I realise I can set the start button to be centered in Start11, however that's not the point.The question is why does using the enhanced option alter the system taskbar settings so that it that the system taskbar can not be set to left when when that has no bearing on what happens in Start11 but does alter what happens to other utlities.It has no effect on what happens to START11 so can it just leave the sytem alone ?
Because it does have an impact on things in Start11 when the enhanced taskbar is on.
Thats why we override it, but this isn't new. This is how it has always worked.
Start11 2.0.7.3Enhanced Taskbar + auto-hideWindows 11 build 22631.32351. Some times the Taskbar window thumbnail previews do not disappear and permanently remain visible. But placing the cursor over the thumbnail will make it disappear. So to make it happen you just need to avoid touching the thumbnail when you move the cursor away from the Taskbar. Restarting Explorer will fix the problem until it randomly occurs again. It once happened immediately after restarting Windows, on the Desktop with just a browser open. But most of the time it takes hours before it starts happening.2. With any style that displays the power button, if it is clicked on and you then click anywhere else on the Start11 menu, the power button highlight will remain visible. It's really obvious with a colourful Windows theme like the orange below.
I can confirm that all these issues i reported are now fixed!And here's some problems with the Enhanced Taskbar (not specific to 2.0.7.3):1. Sometimes the Taskbar will become lighter/grey until you click on it again, then it will go back to normal. This happens with maximised windows but there doesn't seem to be a way to reliably replicate it. Doing something like opening a browser and spamming the mouse button on that window in the Taskbar will usually make it happen, eventually... Or sometimes it will just quickly flash this lighter colour instead.2. As others have mentioned, with maximised windows the auto-hide Taskbar sometimes doesn't appear. It happens more often with browsers and things like Adobe software. But this isn't specific to Start11, because Windows has had this problem going all the way back to Vista or earlier. So it would be great if Start11 could FINALLY fix what Microsoft can't. There's a small progam called RudeWindowFixer that will 99.9% fix this problem. So it can still happen, but it's becomes extremely rare to the point that it's no longer an issue. The program seems to work with the Enhanced Taskbar (i haven't been able to make it happen so far...). Could you implement something similar into Start11?
I think the first of those is an issue with how Windows paints blurred areas as sometimes it gets confused and forgets to repaint it.
On the second point, autohide is only supposed to work if the application that is foreground has a titlebar. If the window does not have one as fullscreen modes in web browsers and adobe apps then the taskbar will not appear on top as the app is the same as a game at that point and having an autohide taskbar pop over a non exclusive mode fullscreen game would be a problem.
The following problem occurs to me:
Win 11 does not adopt the settings from Start11, it remains with the standard Windows user interface.
No setting of Start11 has any effect to the system but the activation of the seconds in the clock e.g.
What I tried:
- Uninstalled 2.07 and reinstalled it, several times
- Uninstalled 2.07 and installed 2.06
- Did 2 times an Inplace Upgrade, also with an uninstalled Start11
--> nothing helped.
Is there a tip what else I can do?
Thanks in advance!
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- Start11_2.0.7.3-j105-Setup_sd
- Edition Windows 11 Pro Version 23H2 Build 22631.3374----------------------------------
All,
The Start11 2.07 beta has been updated. For details, please see:
https://forums.stardock.com/526650/get;3924003
As always, thank you for your time, feedback, and support.
Sean DrohanStardock Product Lifecycle Manager
Hi,
The latest beta (106) appears to have resolved my icon issues. I have not seen the icon folder change since installing it.
Thanks for the update.
Pleased to hear it and ty for the update.
如果使用增强任务栏的话就会变成下面这样：
If use the enhanced taskbar, it will look like this
The first GIF in the reply above is a demo with the enhanced Taskbar not turned on, as you can see, when I drag and drop a URL into another browser window it switches to that window so that I can drag and drop the URL directly into the address bar and the second GIF is when I use the enhanced Taskbar it doesn't automatically switch to another browser windowWill optimization be carried out for this situation? When will the optimized new version be released?
I have to say I can confirm this.
Will Microsoft block this software as well? Is Stardock in contact with Microsoft?
https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-blocks-even-more-customization-apps-in-windows-11-version-24h2/
Would like to know this also... Now that Microsoft will start blocking customizing apps, are Stardock products safe?
Our products should not be impacted by this.
Start11 2.0.7.4Windows 11 Build 22631.3235 and build 22631.3296
Why do other products seemingly have a target on their back while Start11 doesn't?
Start11 doesn't rely on old Windows 10 code that still resides in the Registry of Windows 11. Microsoft is on the path to cleaning out this old code in future iterations of Windows.
Hello, can you guys give an option so that the start 11 taskbar can retain the margin/offset even when a windows is in fullscreen
Our app works differently. We opted to work differently for this very reason.
Start11 2.07 has been released. For the details, please see:
https://forums.stardock.com/527280/start11-v207-release-feedback-thread
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