From previous thread:
Quoting Supremacy2k,
I just tried a clean boot again, everything disabled.When starting the start11 service after logon, it works. But when i reboot it's back to not working.
From pelaird:
That's great! Unfortunately, now the hard part begins. We now know that it is not the OS because everything works as expected after a clean boot. What needs to happen now is that you will have to perform the Clean Boot several more times disabling one item at a time until you find the culprit. Try to figure out the most likely candidates and try disabling them first.
You misunderstand.
A clean boot changes nothing.
It seems to me that start11 starts too early.
As stated, i tried setting the start11 service to delayed start, but that wouldn't work.
Is the service actually running after you login or are you having to start it?
If you restart the service which you say makes it work, and then sign out and in again is it still working?
Once ive done a clean boot the start11 service is stopped.
Once i start it, it works.
Once rebooted, with everything stopped except start11 service, its not working.
If the service is not running on a reboot then thats the issue.
Is it set to automatic on a restart?
Check in Windows Tools>Services
Yup.I'm fairly well-versed in windows.And i have no clue what to try next.This is the reason why i upgraded to Start11 v2, as i figured windows changed so much, it was time for a "new" version of Start11.As i have mentioned earlier, it seems like Start11 starts too early.
Before Windows 11 pro 23H2, Start11 1.x was working perfectly.Honestly, i have been considering a fresh install of windows.But it seems a bit drastic, just to get 1 piece of software to work.
Try this: Purge and re-install.
https://forums.stardock.com/505872/start11-support-faq#reinstalling
Right now i have a dog to walk.Once i get back, i will test it in Windows 11 pro sandbox.If it works there, I'll look into the purge/re-install and see if it helps.
I just tested in windows sandbox.I found out, that the sandbox is a one time deal, meaning there is no way of rebooting it, to see if start11 works after a reboot.And since it works, right after it's installed, without rebooting, testing it in sandbox mode was useless in my instance.On to purge/re-install.Edit: After a purge/re-installation, it's the same deal.It works once installed without rebooting.After a reboot, it doesn't work.Only option left i can see, is a complete reinstall of windows.Which seems drastic to me.Another option is to run a script on login that restarts explorer.exe, but again.. seems drastic.Edit 3: Running a script on startup to restart explorer.exe didn't fix the issue.Once i reboot and on desktop, i can see explorer.exe being restarted, windows 11 menu is still shown when clicking the start button.Manually restarting explorer.exe using the same code as in the startup script, works.No idea why.Edit 4: I tested the sandbox again.The default windows 11 start menu can actually restart the VM, and keep the files in that session.On rebooting the VM, start11 still works as intended.Which tell me, something is wrong with my system.Question is what.My theory is that something messed up during the windows upgrade process somehow.Next step might be a full reinstall of windows.
I also have a ryzen 7 5800 cpu with windows 11 23h2 so that can be ruled out for the issue
My only other guess would be maybe start 11 v2 doesn't like a certain customization you have or a certain pin you have to the start menu or taskbar.
You could try playing around a bit on this. For example if you have a custom start button maybe start 11 just isn't liking it.
23h2's biggest changes that may affect start 11v2 seem to be the taskbar. I have noticed myself that start 11v2's taskbar works better if the Windows 11 task bar is set to have "never combined" buttons set to "off" for what it is worth.
If that isn't the fix, and after you played around with that I really can't think of anything other then a clean install of Windows 11.
Before you go that far, try running DISM:
Here is an article on Windows Central which will explain this process in detail:
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/how-to-use-dism-to-repair-local-image-on-windows-11
This person had the same issue as you and solved it!
Check out his post at https://forums.stardock.com/524079/solving-issues-with-start11-menu-not-showing-up
pelaird
Yup, it works as intended.I've also send you an PM explaining how and why
The end of a long journey. Sweet success!
I'm having the same problem. Installed the latest Win11 security update, Start11 went away and could not configure itself to run despite purge, upgrade, etc. I uninstalled the Win update and Start11 returned.
So, did the uninstall/admin reinstall work? Not to complain, but a forum is only useful if the steps undertaken to solve a problem are clearly enumerated. "Got it to work" is not helpful and a PM does not do the common user any good.
Thanks.
Please explain your issue a little better. Also, please include your Windows version (winver.exe) and Start11 version. Supremacy2k’s Start11 worked, it was just that clicking the start button opened the Windows start menu. He had a conflict with another app.
That makes sense. Explorerpatcher breaks pretty often once Windows 11 updates, if you don't also update explorerpatcher with their fixes then it leaves programs such as start 11 inoperable
I am glad you got it working.
It sure has been a long ride getting windows 11 just right. At least it has been for me. In the early days I experimented with so many different programs trying to get things like the explorer start menu and taskbar to have the right feel. I know I used explorerpatcher quite a bit early on, but there are so many other programs I wanted to try out as well just to see if I could get the OS looking and functioning well. I dont think I remember all of them. So I did end up doing a clean install just to wash out all my experimenting.
I am very thankful that start 11 has come along otherwise it would still be a rough ride maneuvering Windows 11.
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