That's an assessment that every user gets to make.  For instance, Microsoft Office 2021 is essentially the same as my 2013 version (for my purposes).  Microsoft offers no upgrade path - it's full price every time, and not worth it to me.  On the other hand new versions of Stardock apps are not just about features, they're about maintaining compatibility with the ever changing OS.  

I am glad we agree that buying a permanent license does not make a lot of sense in its current model. However, it seems we are in disagreement about whether that option should be fixed. Fences 5 still has not moved out of the release preview, so maybe there is still hope it will be fixed.

Are you sure about that? 7 years between the release of Win10 and Win11. 10 will be a decade old when it becomes EoL.
Win 11 is already 3yrs old and despite recent rumors of a 2024 release we haven't seen a single pixel of anything official yet.
2025 release maybe, or more likely '26.

Anyway, the thing is: The choice between lifetime license and SaaS subscription should be a matter of preference, with reasonable prices for both models.
Some ppl apprecciate the low monthly cost and flexibility of subscriptions, others, like myself, hate not owning the things they pay money for.
But in this case the subscription model is being made the "more attractive option" by inflating the price of the permanent license.
And as a result, at least imo, both look like pretty bad value propositions.

No, it was a hypothetical, however, the time appears to be shrinking: 10 to 11 compared to 11 to 12 if it launches in 2024...never a certainty with MS.

Actually, the choice isn't a "should" that choice is something you want but, it's how and at what price Stardock chooses to sell it which will determine what happens. It's nice that Stardock notes your thoughts, but, does Adobe and many other companies give one a choice?

As for "with reasonable prices for both models." Everyone has his own opinion regarding what's "reasonable". That's why I mentioned a "tiered" approach which would offer features and programs sort of like Adobe does at differing prices. A sort of WYWIWYG, if you will. However, I do not speak for Stardock, and my opinions are only that, mine and not SD's.

I'd say one evolves from another keeping/losing parts and features as they choose. W11 now is rather different than at its start. Maybe the AI Start button will be the big change when W11 goes to 12. Who knows? And again, if the changes come quickly in 12 as they did in 11, subscription makes more sense. If the "evolution" is slow, "lifetime" might be the way to go. The dev channel folks would clearly profit more from the subscription model, and the dev channel isn't going to vanish.

All hypotheticals/hypotheses...and again, that's without the hardware considerations. As our friend naroon1 says, there'll always be those in the wainscotting creating programs to "help" and cause headaches simultaneously.

I really like what Victechnical wrote:

I'd only add, "while making productivity look good, as well."

 

Thanks. I understand why subs are less attractive to some...but a lot of that is the optics ofv""I'm paying many times for the same thing", which isn't true if changes, additions are made. After all, people should be paid for the work they do...compensation for value received.

I differ with respect to "lifetime" because the price is a function of "once and done".

Indeed.

I’ve been a Fences user since the beginning and I’ve upgraded each time. Now for Fences 5 it’s a subscription? And for a lifetime it’s $40?

the only noticeable difference I see is the “chameleon” — and you jacked up the price that much?

Not even a loyalty discount?

Wow, this must be the end of the road with Fences for me. Here’s hoping Miscrosoft will that that feature.

 

 

You must be kidding. I am eligible for an upgrade. Price with no eligibility: 155,99, price for an upgrade: 197,58 (in brazilian currency). 

You seem to have two products in your cart which is why thats more.  Click on the top left and see whats there in error.

Yes but
1. I don't see any real innovations in version 5, not even in version 4. These are mostly bug fixes and should basically be free.
2. Is the software NOT WORTH considering it as a subscription version?

Today everyone who can program believes that they can make big money doing it.
And I paid just under 10 euros for the permanent version of Fenses 3.

I now consider it dubious to pay annually for a new version that essentially only contains bug fixes.
And for the permanent version... don't be mad at me, but the version 5 setup is just 13471 KB in size.
Calculate what I would pay for it if it was used for 5 years...
That's not a healthy relationship. Especially not when you can get something similar for free?

So far I haven't been able to find a proper comparison between version 3 and version 5 anywhere, other than notes that ultimately only show small extensions or bug fixes!

11.99 per year with three years of use makes just under 36 euros
A Permnet version should cost €33.99

An upgrade to version 4 or 5 makes absolutely no sense unless you value the version number
but Fences 5 does NOT have any real added value.

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Ja, aber
1. ich sehe da keine wirklichen Neuerungen ind er Version 5 , ja nichtmal bei der Version 4. das sind zum größten Teil Fehlerbehebungen und die sollte grundsätzlich kostenlos sein.

2. Ist es die Software NICHT WERT sie als Abo Version zu betrachten.

Heute glaubt jeder der Programmieren kann das er damit das große Geld verdienen kann.
Und für die Permanetversion bei Fenses 3 hab ich knapp 10 Euro bezahlt.

Jetzt auf eine neue Version die im Kern nur Fehlerbereinigung Jährlich zu bezahlen betrachte ich als unseriös.
Und für die Permamenrversion ... seid mir nicht böse abner das Setup der Version 5 ist gerade mal 13471 KB groß.
Rechnet doch mal nach, was ich bei einer Nutzuungszueit von 5 Jahren dafürt bezahlt...
Das steht doch in keinen gesunden Verhältnis. Erst recht nicht wenn man ähnliches für Kostenlos bekommen kann?

Bis jetzt habve ich nirgendwo einen ordentlichen Vergleich zwischen Version 3 und Version 5 finden können ausser hinweise die letzlich nur kleine Erweiterungen bzw. Fehlerbehebungen aufzeigen!

11,99 pro Jahr bei drei Jahren Nutzungszeit macht knapp 36 Euro
Eine Permnet Versio0n soll 33,99 € Kosten

Ein Upgrade zur Version 4 oder 5 macht absoplut keinen Sinn ausser man legt Wert auf die Versionsnummer
aber wirklichen Mehrwert hat Fences 5 NICHT.

 

 

 

 

Hello,
Try here for permanent license. Red arrow.https://www.stardock.com/products/fences/

Thanks
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

too expensive