Stardock Announces Fences 5
Now in Release Preview with Chameleon, Peek Toggle, and New Enterprise Functionality
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Fences 5 is a major update to its popular Windows desktop organization software with over 20 million downloads. Fences solves the problem of a “messy desktop” by automatically organizing Windows desktop icons into shaded areas, creating a clutter-free and productive workspace.
Fences 5 introduces Chameleon™️ – a Windows desktop icon enhancement that blends your desktop icons into your wallpaper. Icons maintain their functionality but fade into the background to remain easily accessible without being a distraction.
Also new in Fences 5, it is now easier than ever to access your Fence groups by bringing them to the top with a single click. Building on the patented Peek™ functionality introduced in Fences 4, Fences 5 enables the ability to access your Fence groups from the taskbar by adding an icon to the taskbar to instantly access your desktop groups.
Fences is used by thousands of businesses, from Education to Government to Healthcare. To help these businesses deploy organized dashboards of desktop icons, Fences 5 for Business adds all-new tooling that makes it easier than ever to manage these deployments. With the new ability to easily import/export layouts for distribution, tooling to load configurations from a network drive during logon, and more, Fences sets the standard for enterprise desktop icon management.
"Fences 5 is designed to deliver a modern desktop experience," said Brad Sams, General Manager of Stardock Software. "Fences is the best way to organize your desktop and with Chameleon and Peek, we have built a modern workflow that provides you instant access to your content while reducing the distractions of the desktop.”
Along with its new features, Fences 5 delivers many other enhancements to the core Fences desktop engine that results in improved performance and enhanced capabilities.
Fences 5 is available today starting at $9.99 with Release Preview discounts available for a limited timeand it is also included in the award-winning Object Desktop suite.
Please refer here on your first question : https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1544388616/Stardock+Software+Subscriptions.For the second one, hopefully Support or Dev will come along and answer it soon.Thank you,Basj,Stardock Community Assistant
Hmm... if you purchased OD after May 2023, which includes me, the software will stop functioning at all if you do not continue to subscribe annually. Did I read that correctly?
Its yours until the next version comes out. Then they hit you again if you want the upgrade.
It continues to function the same as when you bought it.
If that version satisfies your needs, then you dont have to buy nor subscribe to a subsequent one, nor does a subsequent version inactivate or invalidate the version in your posession.
You are not forced to buy a subsequent version for any reason. If you want a newer version, with more/different features, then you pay for it. Same for anything else in the world.
From what I read, if you start Subscribing Object Desktop After May 2023 it may cease to function if you let your subscription lapse after the year period end.
Thank you,
Basj,Stardock Community Assistant
From what I read, if you start Subscribing Object Desktop After May 2023 it may cease to function if you let your subscription lapse after the year period end.Thank you,Basj,Stardock Community Assistant
Oooh that hurts... I'd been thinking it would remain at the level it was when the subscription ran out like it had been up until May of 23. Is there any chance of leniency? I came on board in July I believe.
I agree with many of the comments about the subscription. It's like you tried to sneak that one over on us. I've upgraded every version so far, but I'll skip on this one. Thanks anyway.
I would expect that the permanent license I already paid for would carry over to future upgrades of the software. A small fee to upgrade to the newest version, as has been the precedent going from Fences -> Fences 2 -> Fences 3 -> Fences 4. What's not expected is that I should need to pay $30 this time for...what, exactly? Two new, non-critical, features. Nah...I'll stick with V4.
If Fences 5 eventually gets more features that actually matter and make it worth paying $30 for, then great...but this ain't it.I've always sung Stardock's praises to anyone who will listen, but this feels like a money grab and anti-consumer decision.
Edit: fixed verbage to accurately describe past upgrade pricing
It isn't, but the facts won't convince you.
Just to clarify something, Fences upgrades have always been charged for unless owned via an active Object Desktop subscription or purchased within a set time of the new version coming out.
That's true. I misremembered. If I recall correctly, it's always been a small upgrade fee for owners of the prior version ($5 - $8 seems right?). I've certainly never payed $30 for a Fences upgrade which, when combined with the usual upgrade cost only being for those moving to a sub, really comes across as greed and putting profits over all other decisions. To argue that there is any motive other than money is willful ignorance.
Wasn't aware it was a moderators job to throw around catty quips. What facts? Either elaborate and contribute to the discourse, or go moderate another thread.
Listen, I get it ... business is business. Data shows that subscription models ensure long term profits. Single sale transactions are a one time thing. Sure you can charge an upgrade fee (this is how Reason Studios handles major version updates for those who already own the software, and how Stardock used to) but that is quite different than asking customers to pay a yearly fee for a subscription. There are plenty of issues that arise from every software company under the sun moving to subscription models, but that's another topic altogether.
The bottom line is; to pretend this decision was made for any reason other than profits is disingenuous.
Nice gift to your loyal customers for your 30th year, thanks!
No way I'm going to upgrade.
Sure this really feels like a money grab and anti-consumer decision.
The pricing was determined by the increase in number of features offered.
Dev time costs. Either that's conveyed in yearly subscriptions like Adobe does it, or via lifetime licenses.
You have mail.
The pricing was determined by the increase in number of features offered.Dev time costs. Either that's conveyed in yearly subscriptions like Adobe does it, or via lifetime licenses.You have mail.
Chameleon should have been sold as its own "Product". Bundling it and jacking up the price of Fences by justifying the new features tells us you don't understand the difference between pretty and practical. Fence users, I'm betting, are all about being practical. Folks who want a prettier desktop (colors and fading) should buy that in a separate Product, for a reasonable price. Then again, maybe your R&D figured out that nobody wanted it enough to do that to cover your dev costs, so -ta-da- we got V5 Freakin' Franken-Fences.
How did that song go? "We're not going to take it..."
To be fair, Chameleon is the main entrée of Fences 5. Anyone not looking for Chameleon probably shouldn't buy Fences 5 and instead stay with Fences 4. Once Windows 12 drops we will be looking at buying Fences 6 anyways so Fences 4 and 5 will always be equally compatible with windows 11.
Are you sure about that? Fences 5 is by no means new feature heavy like start 11v2 was.
Two different programs. The OP cites Chameleon as the new feature and the one click feature. Chameleon is a major software change to Fences. The program itself doesn't offer as many feature changes as Start11v2 by virtue of its nature and function. Comparing them really isn't fair by their very nature/function. And people are arguing over $8.99. Come on. Earlier versions of Fences are still functional, so if one doesn't feel that Chameleon is needed, or desirable, they're free not to upgrade with nothing amiss. Adding W12 to the discussion isn't at all fair either. Who knows what W12 will/won't do or how any program will function with it.
The two features certainly point to a new version of Fences 5. I do agree that it warrant's being considered a new release. But, I still disagree that the features alone clearly point out a reason for the price hike for permanent licenses all the way to 29.99 which you seem to imply does. Surely Fences 5 development cost was not greater then that of start 11v2 which was the reason for the comparison.
I have scoured the forums and can not seem to find one single person complaining about paying 8.99. In fact, I would go as far to say the people who like subscription's are probably getting their needs met. But, this is coming at the expense of those who prefer permanent licenses. These people will be charged 29.99 AND have a product with a shortened lifespan all at the same time. The cost is pretty high to actually own Fences 5 if you ask me,
If you look at it that way then yes you are correct. I was merely trying to point out that people don't actually have to upgrade to Fences 5 just to worry about Fences 4 giving out too soon. Fences 4 and 5 will probably have pretty equal compatibility on systems all the way around. Skipping a version of Fences is ok if they aren't in love with the features; the op clearly was not.
I am glad to have a good discussion with you by the way DrJ8HL
Two different programs. The OP cites Chameleon as the new feature and the one click. Those are major changes. Chameleon is a major software change to Fences. The program itself doesn't offer as many feature changes as Start11v2 by virtue of its nature and function. Comparing them really isn't fair by their very nature/function. And people are arguing over $8.99. Come on. Earlier versions of Fences are still functional. Adding W12 to the discussion isn't at all fair either. Who knows what W12 will/won't do or how any program will function with it.
"Come on." !?
I was going to drive a truck through several of the more egregious bits in this response, but PhoenixRising1 beat me to it. And was more polite than I would have been. Although, when one side's not listening, I wouldn't characterize it as a "good discussion".
PhoenixRising1, that's exactly the point.
Hypothetical: If 5 lifetime activations cost $40 the cost per unit would be $8 per. That's for the lifetime option, that won't update. If OS turnover picks up speed, the lifetime purchase doesn't make much sense, to me. The subscription model at $9 makes more economic sense if OS's last shorter times. Either way, lifetime or subscription, the devs have to be paid, remember, so that will be reflected in both models.
If you're complaining that MS's OS is expected to have a shorter lifetime, and therefore it's relatively more expensive, but Stardock has absolutely no control over that, and don't forget, the software will continue to work on the original purchase OS indefinitely, and perhaps older ones, as well.
No one's saying that in some hypothetical OS to come, the software won't work. You're assuming that. But, if that's the problem, then opt for subscription model. I don't think it's logical to fixate on one payment method. People might instead weigh which makes more economic sense if OSs change rapidly, and updating is more important. Just my thoughts. No one has to agree. No less important are considerations such as whether a theoretical customer will actually need some new feature or whether the prior version answers all needs.
Also, in these hypothetical OS's no one's even mentioned hardware requirements. Lol.
Good talking with you as well.
PhoenixRising1, that's exactly the point.Hypothetical: If 5 lifetime activations cost $40 the cost per unit would be $8 per. That's for the lifetime option, that won't update. If OS turnover picks up speed, the lifetime purchase doesn't make much sense, to me. The subscription model at $9 makes more economic sense if OS's last shorter times. Either way, lifetime or subscription, the devs have to be paid, remember, so that will be reflected in both models.If you're complaining that MS's OS is expected to have a shorter lifetime, and therefore it's relatively more expensive, but Stardock has absolutely no control over that, and don't forget, the software will continue to work on the original purchase OS indefinitely, and perhaps older ones, as well.No one's saying that in some hypothetical OS to come, the software won't work. You're assuming that. But, if that's the problem, then opt for subscription model. I don't think it's logical to fixate on one payment method. People might instead weigh which makes more economic sense if OSs change rapidly, and updating is more important. Just my thoughts. No one has to agree. No less important are considerations such as whether a theoretical customer will actually need some new feature or whether the prior version answers all needs.Also, in these hypothetical OS's no one's even mentioned hardware requirements. Lol.Good talking with you as well.
How's that koolaid taste? Go ahead and ban me for not heeding your warning (I was dm'd by this mod to essentially say "you hurt my feelings so shut up or get banned").
You've got a plethora of people explaining how you are flatly wrong and continuing with the jabs and ego-trip. If this is how this forum is moderated than I'm good with seeking intelligent discussion elsewhere.
This forum is useless as long as moderators value their ego and opinion over actual discussion, going so far as to remove and censor opinions they don't like and threaten to ban users for having said opinions.
You should reconsider your decision.
A subscription to a window app is ridiculous.
Hopefully you get the receipt for it.
€34 for a permanent license is already pretty steep; but offering an upgrade from Fences4 only to the new subscription model (with a mouth watering €2,40 discount no less) is just a d!ck move. Looking at Fences5's two new features, if they can even be called that, I get the impression that subscriptions is what this pseudo version change is really about.A subscription to manage my desktop icons ... insanity.
It's true for most other software as well, so it's a mystery that some people think otherwise about Stardock apps.
Not much of a mystery here. Those "new features" are so minor they justify neither a version change nor the price hike. If you look at the core functionality, which hasn't changed in ages, these additions should've been part of a Fences4 update. I paid 20 bucks for Fences3+F4 upgrade combined, which seemed reasonable compared to other software; now they've done away with the upgrade option for perpetual-licenses and we're supposed to fork out 30 €$ if we want a silly opacity option and a clicky icon. Or we can subscribe. Which is of course the point of this silliness.The major version change is an alibi/justification to silently switch Fences over to the subscription model.
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