With the Start11 v2.0 Public Preview release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.
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Please include the following for anything found:
Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)
Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen
Screenshots and videos are very helpful. Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post. Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.
If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions. If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.
Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.
Released
Start11 5-Pack upgrade is now available
Beta version updated to 2.0.0.2
Beta install file was initially Start11_2.0.0.2-j36-Setup.exe. Replaced with Start11_2.0.0.2-j37-Setup.exe as there was an odd issue with the intaller window being small for some reason.
Change to have UI disable pick a custom color options when mica is enabled and the menu will ignore any set color
Resolved issue with Win pro style where quick list is sometimes cut shorter than it could be depending on menu style settings
Filtered a rogue menu entry from the Control panel on some systems when a menu
Added setting in the menu to set row count for tabs to set all the tabs in the group to the same height. On by default
Resolved issue with the taskbar on top and popup menus needing to be multiple columns end up bottom aligned rather than top aligned
Resolved issue with hiding user icon leaving space at the top of the menu when you are using top aligned taskbar
Resolved very short tab names being swapped with the tab index instead. Note that tabs with no name would still have the tab index
Resolved issue with hide from apps option under the more submenu on Win11 and Win Pro and Win Launcher styles not showing correctly
Shift right-click menu on pinned items with enhanced taskbar enabled now offers ‘Run as other user’ if applicable
Tweaked corner painting for shadows as Edge was being lost on new menu styles
Stopped universal apps defaulting into subfolders as this mirrors the OS
Resolved icon loading for iTunes
Tweak spacing on all apps list to be slightly bigger for Win11, Win Pro and Win Launcher styles
Resolved Fences groups vanishing from the menu on changes due to not saving the new group data/
Beta branch created versioned as 2.0.0.1Beta can be downloaded client account page or Object Destkop Manager (ODM) with ‘Show betas’ check in Options
Updated config exe only to fix the reading of font size settings not working correctly.
Resolved issue with Pin installed app menu not letting you pin from a submenu and instead launching the app.
Resolved issue with ‘this parameter is incorrect’ error when enabling menu backgrounds and grid backgrounds
Resolved issue with taskbar popup menus not correctly handling virtual folders
Adjusted pinned taskbar suggested apps list to be limited to 14 items
Corrected positioning of the menus when links in the quick access shortcut list are set to open menus for Win11/App/Pro styles
Added arrows indicating quick access shortcut list entries are menus on Pro style
Added option for narrow right-hand side of Win Pro style menu
Added option to hide user icon for Win Pro and Win Launcher style menus
Resolved issue with logout & shutdown menus showing on the wrong screen when using the Win10 style menu when there is a monitor on the left of the menu.
Resolved runtime error issue with pinned items for some users without VC runtimes installed
Tweaked detection of Win taskbar mode in config on OOBE
Resolved issue with renaming icons
Fixed sync typo on advanced settings option for Win10/11/Launcher/Pro/App menu styles
Resolved canceling tab drag with escape left menu in tab dragging mode for painting until a click on the menu happened
OS pin syncing was adjusted to avoid possible issues with reimporting in error
Resolved issue with some missing jumplists
Resolved issue with popup menus on side of Win7/Modern menu showing access denied
Resolved issue with tooltips on Win7/Modern menu right hand side showing numbers for some items
Added support for hide search field when not searching to Windows App style/Pro style/ Launcher style menus
Resolved issue with showing icon on shutdown button in Win7/Modern style
Release
Please see the Start11 v2 press release for changes and features.
https://forums.stardock.com/523413/stardock-announces-start11-v2
Known issues
While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.
10/26/2023
10/27/2023All are considered resolved with 2.0.0.2
***Reserved***
Start11 V2 breaks system tray.
Im seeing this too.
Win10 or 11?
If your system is fully booted, you see the issue still, but then restart Windows File Explorer manually, does it render correctly then?
Sean DrohanStardock Product Lifecycle Manager
Win10 or 11?If your system is fully booted, you see the issue still, but then restart Windows File Explorer manually, does it render correctly then?Sean DrohanStardock Product Lifecycle Manager
Using windows 10 Build 19045.3570
And i did try restarting Explorer but that didnt work so went back to V1.
P.S Is this help i didnt do a dirty install. I uninstalled V1 kepping the settings & restarting installed V2 and restarted.
We were able to reproduce an issue on Win10 with the systray. We are testing a fix as we speak. Keep an eye on this thread for an update.
Thank you for the prompt feedback.
https://forums.stardock.com/521665/page/1/#3899522
this issue is still not fixed
ljferdinand, rmai2store, we have updated the build.
Please delete the current installer file you may have in your \My Downloads and install the one now served from your account pages:
https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products
(installing over what you have is fine)
Reboot and let us know ASAP, please.
Again, thanks for the heads up.
The current release preview does not have much in the way of taskbar changes other than the new pinning options. The next update is planned to have some taskbar enhancements and thats when we will be looking at things like that.
on windows 11 newest build, bottom right corner tray account is missing a lot of app icons on reboot. I have to fully uninstall start11 v2 in order to see the icon back, gonna reinstall v1 again...
If you redownload the v2 installer this is probably addressed as we fixed a problem with system tray icons. The installer was replaced so you must download the new one.
you mean this link here to download v2 right?
the one i downloaded was like 3 hours ago
This works. Thanks Sean.
tyvm for the feedback and update, ljferdinand.
It was fixed about 20 minutes ago.
Yes. It will be serving an identically named file but updated.
A couple of bugs
1. The option to [hide search bar unless searching] is not working on the new start menu styles
2. Changing pages via the mouse wheel now requires the start menu to be at a certain height (i.e. it cant be short in height) in order to switch pages even with blank space on the menu.
A couple of suggestions
I would like to see some more customization on the [windows pro style]
1. The folder on the side is great. But is also a little wide for my taste and I would like the ability to make it slightly more narrow to free up space
2. I would also like the option to toggle on or off the user name / picture to free up space
edit- additional bug
Unpinning or pinning apps changes universally across windows 11 style, windows app style, windows pro style, and windows launcher style. Why this matters to me is because on Windows 11 style I will pin folders, but in Windows pro style there is no longer that need as the side menu takes care of it. I suppose if I decide to fully adopt a new menu style it won't matter in the long run.
There are a couple of issues with Start 11 v2 on Windows 11 when using either the Windows 7 style or Modern style.
Firstly, the option to show icon on shutdown button results in a corrupted icon. This occurs even if I opt for modern style glyphs.
Secondly, any Quick access shortcuts that are set to Display as menu, show a greyed out <Access denied> and the floating tooltip displays a number. For example, Windows Tools, has a floating 15, Universal Applications has a floating 21.
(I was unable to screenshot the floating number)
Edition Windows 11 ProVersion 22H2Installed on 01/10/2023OS build 22621.2428Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22674.1000.0
I was able to reproduce this.
Internal Ref: ODNT-7359
Do you mean this option?
https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1442742288/Start11+v1+UI%3A+Windows+10+Style#Power-Menu-Options
Thanks for the feedback.
I was able to reproduce this. Internal Ref: ODNT-7359
Do you mean this option?https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1442742288/Start11+v1+UI%3A+Windows+10+Style#Power-Menu-OptionsThanks for the feedback.Sean DrohanStardock Product Lifecycle Manager
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant this option:
How should I upgrade from 1.47.3 to 2.0 to prevent loosing my current configuration?
Using a set of screenshots?
Answering my own question
Looking at the configuration, I just noticed that the taskbar parameters weren't editable (the taskbar being seen as handled by another tool).
Anyway, I did a settings backup to file, followed by a settings reset and a restore, and the taskbar parameters are editable again.
Talking of settings backup to file, I also noticed a bug:
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