If you are getting windows grouping when they should not be, it would be useful to have the following information :

Hold down the CTRL key and click the groupy icon in the tabbed group.  This shows a menu which should now have a debug entry at the very bottom.  Expand this menu and take a screenshot of the information.  Do this for all the windows in the group.

Then post the screenshots here (clip the screen shots to those menus ideally)

This will give us reasons why the window was grouped.

I accidentally granted did that with the video.. without realizing it.

However, I have sorta figured out what was happening and came to give my report. Firstly, I'm getting dumber by the day it seems.

A while back, I tried to use Custom Rules to prevent apps from auto-grouping, but I discovered that the rules only allow you to permit windows and not disallow them from auto-grouping. So, I left the rule as not defined and continued to search for a solution.

Yesterday, I went through everything in Groupy again to see if there was anything that could be causing my windows to group together. All my windows were grouped, regardless of the app, all the time, and I couldn't use Groupy in that condition. I found a checkbox under one of the entries in the Custom Rules section that said to match on partial strings and auto-group when it found a match. I didn't think Groupy would consider nothing as a partial match, but I deleted the rule, and the auto-grouping problem went away. I'm still confused because I created a new rule with the same settings, but the problem didn't return. However, I might not be remembering everything correctly because I had two rules in the Custom Rules section, and I deleted both, but I only looked at the one I described above. I don't recall what was in the other rule, except that it was also left undefined as far as I can remember because I wanted to prevent auto-grouping, and the rules only allow for auto-grouping. This all happened while updates to Groupy were being released, and I was convinced it had something to do with that.

Do they still make kids wear dunce caps? I deserve to wear one and apologize for the confusion. Maybe I can find an avatar that says IQ of 85 to use which would be about right.

Hi

Is there a way to make it less annoying when using Chrome maximized with just one Chrome window tab?

The settings I have which seem relevant are "Place tabs above", "Always Visible", "Do not paint a tab when only one tab exists for the group".

I rarely use Groupy, so it is supposed to stay out of my way.
The problem in Chrome is that Chrome has its own tabs on the top. When I go to that area to click on a tab, I frequently get "a little too high" and Groupy's bar (with just this one window) decides to pop over Chrome's tabs and I can't click the tab I want to go to. I even accidentally closed windows that way.
And not every time - but often. I haven't found a full pattern yet.

If there would be an option to completely disable the bar if Chrome is maximized and has only its one tab or change it that I have to be right at the edge of the screen rather than catching it already a few pixels down, that would be good.

Maybe you have another suggestion?

Thanks
Mark

When I close programs within a group of three then the last open application cannot be accessed. It still shows in alt tab, and I can see a popup of it if I mouse over it, I just cannot access the program.

Windows 23H2
Groupy 2.12
The issue is repeatable and the order that the windows are closed in doesn't matter.

Video can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/9kUKcD1

As a follow-up, locking Windows and typing in my pin to log back in made the app accessible again.

When Groupy 2 is active, in Excel diagrams, the buttons for quick actions are hidden. If Groupy is disabled, the buttons stay visible.

Thank you for your proposal, but it seems to be dependent on more settings.

I have Groupy set to show always tabs and above the window. Changing to show never tabs or to integrated tabs, doesn't change the buttons behavior here. 

Quoting Big--Mike,

reply 64

When Groupy 2 is active, in Excel diagrams, the buttons for quick actions are hidden. If Groupy is disabled, the buttons stay visible.

 

I have logged it internally to have it looked at.

Internal ref: ODNT-7556

Thanks for the feedback.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Does your team have a test set up for peripheral displays? I still get all sorts of weird duplication issues when connecting / disconnecting displays from my laptop which runs Groupy.

I could provide specific examples, but frankly it happens so clearly and consistently that I think it would just be easier for your team to replicate and troubleshoot.

Win11 enterprise

4K screen + 2K screen or 4K screen + 1080p screen

My Groupy 2 was bought from Steam.

Hope this info can help.

The same behavior, a huge transparency space when the third tab is open.