I posted this in the 1.21 beta feedback thread. Just hoping to gain some traction on the issue observed when changing from a high scaling setting to a lower one, usually observed when docking a mobile device with a high res display to monitors with a lower res display such as when I dock my Surface Pro at my desk with dual 1080p monitors.

Autohide taskbars must follow the following rules.

On Windows 11 release they can be top or bottom but MUST be one row and Start11 will revert to one row if autohide is enabled.

On Windows 11 dev/beta insider builds they must be bottom only and one row.

I'm still having problems with the start button not responding for several seconds after left-clicking on it.  Last night it wouldn't respond for almost 30 seconds.  This is the second laptop I've had this problem with.  Both laptops are Lenovo with AMD chips.  Running Windows 11 on both.  I reverted back to version 1.1 for now.

This is an annoyance more than a bug but still...it's not likely "as intended" behavior...

On a two-monitor setup, when clicking on the taskbar icon to open the start menu for the first time in a session, the regular Windows 11 start menu pops up. Clicking on the icon a second time brings up the Start11 menu. Every time after the first during that session, the Start11 comes up normally. Additional points:

• It only happens on the secondary monitor
• It only happens when clicking with the mouse. Pressing the Windows key open the Start11 menu as expected.
• Start11 version is 1.2

Yes, to both of your questions.  

Can you send me a link to the 1.21 beta?

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As about Explorer.exe USER and GDI - I would love to provide you this info but I do not understand where to look at. I see no "USER" or "GDI" columns in Details of Task Manager - care to elaborate more or show a screenshot where to look at?

 

Got it! Here is the screenshot with those parameters. On Joxi service: http://joxi.ru/EA4ZOkPTXvYyBm

On OneDrive: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuKeBZj0fTjZg7IsQSGPBaaTYQqVJw?e=ttlQbS

 

Tell me if you see something abnormal, as this weird behaviour with regular corruption of taskbar, start menu and even desktop icons is regular on my system and I can only fix it by restarting explorer

Can you then do that again after a few hours so we can compare the numbers please.

Thanks

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As about Explorer.exe USER and GDI - I would love to provide you this info but I do not understand where to look at. I see no "USER" or "GDI" columns in Details of Task Manager - care to elaborate more or show a screenshot where to look at?

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Got it! Here is the screenshot with those parameters. On Joxi service: http://joxi.ru/EA4ZOkPTXvYyBm

On OneDrive: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuKeBZj0fTjZg7IsQSGPBaaTYQqVJw?e=ttlQbS

 

Tell me if you see something abnormal, as this weird behaviour with regular corruption of taskbar, start menu and even desktop icons is regular on my system and I can only fix it by restarting explorer

Can you then do that again after a few hours so we can compare the numbers please.

Thanks

 

Ok, my PC went to crash-reboot when I wanted to make a second screen, so here is the second attempt This is the screen I made on 21:05:

 

Joxi - http://joxi.ru/8An9w6eSNoMy92

OneDrive - https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuKeBZj0fTjZg7Ire_j6eTBiZN9jWg?e=PSc9zw

 

and this is the second screen I made on 0:07, roughly after 3 hours of video editing and doing other stuff:

 

Joxi - http://joxi.ru/J2baG18IqgnKMm

OneDrive - https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuKeBZj0fTjZg7Ire_j6eTBiZN9jWg?e=Tyt0DF

 

Shortly after that Start11 restarted itself several times when I was sending YandexDisk links to the videos I made through Explorer->Show More Options context menu - there is some crazy shit going on

Start11 should have no impact at all on your right clicks.  Are you sure there isn't something else conflicting as explorer crashing doesn't automatically mean Start11 is the cause.

If you open event log (Winkey + R, type eventvwr in the box that appears you will open event viewer.  In that you can view logged events listed in time and date order.  On the tree pick Windows Logs and then Application.  Then you are looking for entries with level "Error" where "source" is application.

They contain things like "Faulting application name: Explorer.EXE, version: 10.0.19041.1645, time stamp: 0x7c06cc0e"

If you can find one with application name "explorer.exe" can you post the text here so we can see what the module the crash is happening is please.

That certainly strongly suggests yandex is the issue yes.  You may want to check if they have an update for Windows 11.

When in the Start 11 config screens, if I click where I should be able to turn enhanced taskbar off, nothing happens. "Enhanced" stays on.

What I ended up doing was to uninstall Start 11, including deleting my previous settings. Then I reinstalled Start 11. Everything works OK now, including the Start button, but now I appear to be rolled back to version 1.0. And when I click on "check for updates", I get a message telling me that my version of Start 11 is up to date. What might have happened there?

I just installed Start11 1.2 with the Modern Style menu selected.  I am unable to find an option to allow re-ordering of (non-Metro) items in the All Programs list - the list is always presented alphabetically.  For example, I like to have a folder named Office listed before a folder called Communications.  And within the Office folder, I like to have the Word shortcut listed first, followed by Excel, etc.  I can click/hold on a folder or shortcut and it appears I will be able to move it, but am unable to place anything in a new order.  I am able to do this with Open-Shell, and of course in Windows 7.

Additionally, I stumbled on a HideMetroApps registry value to hide showing the Metro Apps folder in the All Programs (left) list, but am confused why this option is not presented in Start11's configuration UI (or did I just miss it)?

Not being able to re-order the All Programs list is a huge drawback for me.

Thanks Basj!  Just for awareness, here's a screen shot of Open-Shell on Windows 10 (10.0.19044) showing that the All Programs list (folder or shortcuts) does not need to always be alphabetized.  Also, the Universal Applications folder can be hidden from Start11's All Programs list by adding this registry value/data (this should be an option in its settings app):

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8]
"HideMetroApps"="1"