With the Start11 1.2 beta release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.
Obtaining the beta:
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As we want as much feedback as possible for this release, we are making Start11 1.2 beta available to all. The following direct link to the installer can be used for both licensed users and for any potential client wanting to (30 day) trial Start11 1.2 beta.
1.16: https://cdn.stardock.us/downloads/public/software/start/Start11_1.16-j140-Setup.exe1.17: https://cdn.stardock.us/downloads/public/software/start/Start11_1.17-j151-Setup.exe
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So far so good, noticed a few things, mainly just spacing:
That's the bottom of my monitor, so you can see the network icon, the sound icon, and the time are all too low; they need to be moved up.
You can also see where the second screen starts that the icons are like right on top of each other, there needs to be a little more spacing between them.
Other than that, looks great guys, love it, a much needed update for Windows 11.
I installed the beta. All my taskbar icons are gone. After the Explorer Restart, they briefly flash up and then disappear. I have uninstalled, rebooted, and reinstalled. Any other suggestions or updates. Version 1.16-j140. I am really hoping to bring back the "never combine" feature. I appreciate you guys working on it and hope I can get this fixed.
When running Windows 11 version 22000.588The described methods sound very good. But, I am not seeing this behavior on Windows 11. I do see the option "allow taskbar to be resized" but when clicked to "yes" the only thing that changes is the mouse effect near the resize area. The actual taskbar does not seem to change. Also I am not seeing a change in the size of tabs as the menu becomes full nor am I seeing the scrollbar. The overflow of tabs just aren't present at all.Did I miss a setting, or is this a bug my end or something that is going to be implemented in the future?
Open regedit, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced
Find TaskbarSizeMode and give it a value of 0 rather than 1.
Sign out and back in again.
Resizing work now?
There is a bug in the current build where unless you set it to vertically centre the taskbar buttons it isn't shrinking them correctly when it gets full. In vertical centre mode it is working as expected and they will shrink and also create a scrollbar when it is required.
Sounds exactly like the problem I am having with all the icons completely disappearing once I select never combine and apply
That did the trick. Resizing is now working.
You are also correct with vertical center mode. When I check marked it to "yes" the taskbar resizing started working which really helps the overflow issue a lot.
The taskbar is functioning much better now! Thanks,
Where Microsoft drop the ball on Windows 11 Start Menu & Task bar. This beta taskbar improvement brings my frustrations level down.
Thanks Stardock
Windows 11 64-bit 21H2 (OS Build 22000.588)
+1 for me
Windows 11 21H2 OS Build 10.0.22000.556
Cheers,
Chris
Clicking the time and date doesn't bring up the calendar, nothing happens. Clicking the audio and network icon works fine.
After seeing this post, I tried and, indeed, I have the same problem, the date/calendar/notification bar doesn't appear at all when clicking on the clock..
I'm also seeing this issue. [edit: working properly after a reboot] Two points:
Four other issues I'm seeing (which may be scaling dependent; I'm running at 3840x2160 with 250% scaling):
I think I might be the only here one who doesn't care about retrofitting my taskbar. What I'd like to see is a RoundedTB-type option with segmented/dynamic mode for the existing Windows 11 taskbar.
First... thx for great Win11 start menu replacement and enhanced taskbar behavior.I would like to report an issue of disapperaed taskbar icons when "Combined Sometimes" is selected.This behaviour was reported above by users kenlight1110 and mrcairo as well.
Switching off the option "Let Start11 enhance the taskbar" and restarting Explorer brings back taskbar icons, however positioned to the left.
Windows 11 ver. 21H2 22000.556Before selecting "Sometimes": start menu + taskbar icons positioned in the centerAfter selecting "Sometimes" (+Explorer restart): Start Menu icon positioned to the left, no taskbar icons
I appreciate the efforts
A temporary workaround: if you set the taskbar size to "small" and restart Explorer, time and calendar are cut at the bottom, but if you select the "medium" size again without restarting Explorer, the graphics setting changes to correct. It is useful in this regard to use a custom start button icon, which is larger and does not suffer from space distortion.
Unfortunately, the notification center icon is no longer displayed
After installing the beta version, SearchProtocolHost.exe keeps running at 4% of eight cores at all times, keeping the CPU speed at turbo boost speed and temperature at 51 degrees instead of the normal 30. Ideas?
That is unlikely to be anything to do with Start11 unless you are performing a search?
Switching off the option "Let Start11 enhance the taskbar" and restarting Explorer brings back taskbar icons, however positioned to the left.Windows 11 ver. 21H2 22000.556Before selecting "Sometimes": start menu + taskbar icons positioned in the centerAfter selecting "Sometimes" (+Explorer restart): Start Menu icon positioned to the left, no taskbar iconsI appreciate the efforts
Can you post a screenshot of your taskbar with the option disabled please as we have a few reports of this so believe there is something about whatever is on the taskbar thats causing it to appear blank. Also how many monitors do you have?
You don't need to add that registry key, it was purely if you had it then you couldn't resize the taskbar.
For your issue, go to the Start11 settings. On the taskbar page click the More Start11 taskbar settings button and enable the vertically centre taskbar buttons option. This will fix the items going off the bottom of the taskbar issue.
Yes, I agree, it's unlikely. But that's also the only thing that changed.
Ill add some info to that last question
On My taskbar there is normally only the search option (set to the default magnifying glass as opposed to the search box).
I run on 2 monitors but only have the taskbar enabled on my main Monitor 1
Your suspicion that the issue is connected to multi-screen setup was correct!
I have three screens and made tests of such configurations:(1) three screens: middle screen primary, side screens extended 2-1-3(2) two screens: left screen primary, right screen extended 1-2(3) one seamless desktop of three screens: nVidia Surround 5760x1200(4) one screen, side screens disconnected
Results:
(1) three screens: 1 primary + 2 extended:
(2) two screens: left primary + right extended, same behavior as above (1)
(3) three screens seamless desktop nVidia Surround:
(4) one screen, Start Button & Taskbar Enhanced works ok
Note: In my case the option "Show my taskbar on all displays"is switched OFF in Windows' Personalization > Taskbar
Let me know if additional tests would be helpful
You don't need to add that registry key, it was purely if you had it then you couldn't resize the taskbar.For your issue, go to the Start11 settings. On the taskbar page click the More Start11 taskbar settings button and enable the vertically centre taskbar buttons option. This will fix the items going off the bottom of the taskbar issue.
Confirmed, issue #4 fixed. I'm hoping #1-3 are noted as bug reports or feature requests, as appropriate.
The Notifications panel issue returns after resuming my PC from sleep, however.
Your suspicion that the issue is connected to multi-screen setup was correct!I have three screens and made tests of such configurations:(1) three screens: middle screen primary, side screens extended 2-1-3(2) two screens: left screen primary, right screen extended 1-2(3) one seamless desktop of three screens: nVidia Surround 5760x1200(4) one screen, side screens disconnectedResults:(1) three screens: 1 primary + 2 extended:
(2) two screens: left primary + right extended, same behavior as above (1)(3) three screens seamless desktop nVidia Surround:
(4) one screen, Start Button & Taskbar Enhanced works okNote: In my case the option "Show my taskbar on all displays"is switched OFF in Windows' Pessonalization > TaskbarLet me know if additional tests would be helpful
Does changing the option in Start11 settings to show windows on all taskbars help?
Couldn't find Start11 option to show taskbar on all screens, so I used:Windows Settings > Personalization > Taskbar > Show my taskbar on all displays
Enhanced Taskbar (Sometimes/Never) works now on primary screen and extended screens.In "More Start11 taskbar settings..." I can activate now the same behavior for multiple monitors.
There is another issue...when there are too many programs opened, taskbar icons are wrapped creating second hidden row below.I would expect compressed view first, then carousel.
I've noticed that the taskbar is sluggish; it's slow to respond to my clicks sometimes.
The taskbar icon area (the part you see with the up arrow), sometimes I can't click on that sometimes I have to right click.
You'll notice in this screen shot that the calendar has 2 different backgrounds, that's because it's not showing up on one monitor, it's showing up between both monitors (I have 4 on this computer); making it hard to read.
The feature "windows-icon left and all other icons centered" did only start working after a complete restart of windows.Only a restart of the explorer.exe was not enough.
Next I cannot click the default systray icons for network and audio an a click on the clock does nothing too.
Beside this, the new features are awesome, thanks for this!
Now I'm only missing one feature: be able to pin apps to secondary taskbars, is there something in your roadmap for that?
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