It seems, I am the only one who puts the taskbar to the left side of the desktop. Is this feature coming with Start11 soon? Would be really to be able to use the mostly unused horizontal desktop space again.
Start 11 will not make my Taskbar Smaller. after the win update. Tried everything. Had to do System Restore to get it back. Any suggestions?
You need to enable the enhance taskbar option in Start11 to go to a smaller taskbar since the update. You also need Start11 1.41 or later.
Checking in on this thread but I see no progress on the left-side task bar, nor even an indication that Stardock is considering implementing it.
Living with the patcher on Windows 11 for now, it's certainly not as nice but the left-side taskbar is a must-have for me. Maybe some day Stardock will reconsider, or maybe someone else will release a comparable package with left-side taskbar support.
I have Start 11 1.41.1. installed the windows udate and Did everything you said and taskbar still looks like this. Small nnot working.
Do you have auto hide enabled or are you on a touch device?
auto hide is enabled
Because of changes made in the last update of the Windows 11 when using auto-hide taskbar the size has to be set to medium
Paul ScrogginsAssociate Technical Support Analyst
I installed Win 11 last week. It's good, I like most of it - but I hate to be intrusively forced to have the start bar at the bottom. It has been said many times and I can only repeat: we have wide screens nowadays, with much more horizontal than vertical space. Therefore I had the task bar placed at the left since Win 7 (as far as I remember), icons not grouped (only if task bar is full), and show the descriptions (I work a lot with SAP, and it is so useful to see the transcation name if you have 20+ SAP sessions open in several SAP systems ...).
I googled and somehow got it wrong ... I thought that Start11 has the option for free placement of the task bar - as this is the most important feature for me. An hour ago I purchased the multi-device (5-installations) license of Start11 (offer price 13.49 €) ... and found that the feature I actually want most is missing.
I don't complain, and it was my fault that I did not catch up better on Start11's features before the purchace. I still like the Win10-like start menu where I can arrange tiles as I want.
I hope that Stardock listens: Please, bring us the missing feature, and allow your customers to have a vertical task bar at the left side of the screen!
Peter
I'm using Start11 along with ExplorerPatcher which lets us put the Taskbar in the left or wherever we want, works perfectly, and has had zero issues for almost a year. Of course, it would be better to have that functionality built-in already in Start11 which I still hope for one day but so far, I'm happy that I managed to accomplish what I need.
One more voice for side taskbar
thank you Works great indeed
Too bad! Using taskbar on left side since my first 16:9 screen as well (and using StartXX since Start8) - just installed StartAllBack, looks nice and has the features that I "need" / like (including taskbar on the left side).
Maybe I will buy Start11 again when vertical taskbar functionality is implemented.
Hello Stardock,
are you reading / listening here? Can you please comment on your roadmap plan for the task bar positioning topic discussed here (especially to place the task bar at the left side)?
Your comment would be very much appreciated.
Hello,
From what I know there is no news on this one. However, I have forward your question to Stardock Support Team for their input. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate your feedback and patience.
Basj,Stardock Community Assistant
If you are referring to verticle taskbars, there are no immediate plans to have such an option for Start11 v1 or v2.
Sean DrohanStardock Product Lifecycle Manager
Hello Sean, hello Stardock Product Lifecycle Management,
that's bad, really bad news.
I wonder why Stardock seems kind of "ignorant" against this feature wish. Look at this forum thread: there are many users who are waiting for the possibility to place the task bar vertically, at the left side of the screen. With good reasoning, as it has been discussed back and forth: today's widescreen monitors have plenty of space in horizontal direction (which is used by a vertical task bar).
Please let us know: how can we bring the 'vertical task bar' feature on the Stardock roadmap for Start11? What can we - the paying users - do to make this happen? Is there a voting list for potential new features?
Kind regards, Peter
It is more about priorities and the amount of work required for an admittedly very niche feature.
That said, it remains on the board for something to consider. As shown in the Start11 history, nearly all of these changes were a direct result of user feedback.
Thanks for the feedback, PMuthsam.
I prefer a taskbar at the top of the screen, and it's a pain not being able to autohide it. I wouldn't mind trying a vertical taskbar now I've got a widescreen monitor too.
I'm really surprised at how tricky it seems to be to relocate the taskbar on the screen - as an ex-UI developer, I've coded position-independent display elements before. Any competent UI developer at Microsoft should easily be able to make a position-independent element like a taskbar - and if it needs to display app content, such as the widgets, there are a number of ways the app and the taskbar could arrange to display it appropriately. It smacks of poor and badly thought-out design, particularly as the Win 10 taskbar was more functional in this respect.
In Start11 I have an option to nake my taskbar "Left-Aligned", but I am on Windows 10. This can't be done on Windows 11? In fact I vaguely remember setting up Start11 into a Win11 Workstation, and I thought I had moved the taskbar to the left. Fever Dream? Or "Mandela Effect" ("Mengele Effect" in the X-Files...)?
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It is more about priorities and the amount of work required for an admittedly very niche feature.That said, it remains on the board for something to consider. As shown in the Start11 history, nearly all of these changes were a direct result of user feedback.Thanks for the feedback, PMuthsam.Sean DrohanStardock Product Lifecycle Manager
well, that was the historical purpose of creating the current Stardock software: answering specific niche needs. Theming with WindowBlinds is even more niche than having a side bar
that's bad, really bad news.I wonder why Stardock seems kind of "ignorant" against this feature wish. Look at this forum thread: there are many users who are waiting for the possibility to place the task bar vertically, at the left side of the screen. With good reasoning, as it has been discussed back and forth: today's widescreen monitors have plenty of space in horizontal direction (which is used by a vertical task bar).Please let us know: how can we bring the 'vertical task bar' feature on the Stardock roadmap for Start11? What can we - the paying users - do to make this happen? Is there a voting list for potential new features?Kind regards, Peter
One question on this. How complete would it need to be?
Are you looking for a start button and taskbar buttons and a clock, or the option to pin tray icons etc? The task gets more complicated the more has to be implemented.
Hello, Neil.
I made the mistake ordering Start11v2 today (multi-pack), but before installing I checked to see if the left vertical taskbar is implemented. I was sure it would be on a v2, but sadly, it's not.
The way I, and I think many other widescreen users, would like, is to be able to position the entire taskbar on the left (or right), just like Windows 10 does it (see below).
Thanks,
Kevin
I recommend strongly that you just use ExplorerPatcher and stop wasting your energy here like we all did.
Because it's admittedly know that a very niche feature made available by a 16k stared github project is not worth implementing in a commercial product.
Ps: I'm still using Objectdock on Win11 while they don't support nor update it since win7... That was one of the pioneer which allowed for centered taskbar, a very niche feature that Microsoft never tried to copy recently hey?
I recommend strongly that you just use ExplorerPatcher and stop wasting your energy here like we all did.Because it's admittedly know that a very niche feature made available by a 16k stared github project is not worth implementing in a commercial product.
I suspect the percentage using a vertical taskbar is somewhat smaller.
Unfortunately as we have noted before, the techniques used by that are simply not viable for commercial software. It has been broken twice this year already and caused crashes I believe when it was broken.
The extra sales we might make using that method would cost us more in support costs and carry the continual threat of OS updates taking it away as an option leading to very angry customers.
It does however play nice with Start11 so you can use it to get the old taskbar if you wish and keep the Start11 menus. Seems like a win win to me.
While not positive, this is actually a much better answer than the ones before: now we actually know that there is no plan to support the left-side start menu. Until now, the posts made it sound like a low priority, so people have continued to pose here in the hopes that it would actually be supported in the future. Now, there is no need to do that.
I'll stick with ExplorerPatcher, then. It hasn't caused Explorer crashes for me yet, hope it continues to be stable. Because, for me, it solves a key issue with Windows 11, the same one that originally made me a StarDock customer.
Thanks for the clarification, Neil.
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