We are putting together the schedule to make WindowBlinds 11.
Customization is a lot harder now than it used to be. Microsoft, for reasons unknown, has actively encouraged developers to take care of their own client and even non client (border, frame) painting rather than using standard Windows controls.
Microsoft's baffling decision to throw away trying to provide a standard set of in-app controls for developers and instead provide vague, often conflicting standards (cough, Fluent) has resulted in having less and less of the OS we can even touch.
Which is unfortunate because WindowBlinds, in theory, could actually give Windows users a consistent, OS-wide Fluent if apps weren't handling the drawing of their own UIs these days.
Still, with that in mind, there are things we can do such as skin the standard OS controls and then handle apps on a case-by-case basis. Keep in mind though, the more non-standard apps we have to handle, the harder it is for us to keep compatibility.
Earlier this year we released Curtains which doesn't even hook into the OS. This means it is 100% compatible. Skins, even the weirdest ones, won't break a given app. Of course, the price is that it doesn't skin nearly as much (no client area GUI controls like scrollbars, push buttons, radio buttons, etc.). It's done quite well. However, we know there are still plenty of people out there who would like to have more full control over how their Windows desktop looks.
That's where this thread comes in: What would you like to see in WindowBlinds 11?
The problem I have with Windows 11 is it doesn't look like progress. There's nothing in it that could not have been implemented in Windows 10 via the usual feature updates. It was not necessary to mess with the UI. It doesn't only break Stardock apps. It makes a lot of perfectly good hardware obsolete.
tell us more.. Win11 looks like shit especially when you go Dark Mode and find literally every application window built using winforms from the top to bottom is literally White.. those fking retards at MS.
Especially when they go ahead and break the work of developers behind Curtains etc and any other ux theme patching efforts
The creators of UX Theme Patcher have released a couple of updates enabling the use of many Windows 10 themes alongside another popular start replacement program, allowing them to work fine with Windows 11. Just added another " Kinetik Tech Edition" and "Kinetik Aqua Edition" as my love of Dark skins and Electric Green Text is well known. Working Flawlessly on a windows 11 Enterprise Latest Build, fully updated.
It was Stardock that got me into Skinning my system, and as there is still no release for a WB 11 Beta, i had to go elsewhere, experimenting, changing, until i had something that is 95% as good as WB 10.
My friend it the UI so it's personable I actually prefer Windows 11 stock UI to windows 8 or 10. Did not like tiles or the ribbon. But to each his own. Hopefully Stardock will bring windowblinds 11 out soon that way we all can make windows more to our liking.
dont think it will come out anytime soon.. think i saw someone say on here that it wasnt gonna be until 2023 or something like that lol
The "someone" was the CEO of Stardock and it was a typo.
Just refer back to comment #340, and anything subsequent from BradSams and you will be up to speed with reality...
The "someone" was the CEO of Stardock and it was a typo.Just refer back to comment #340, and anything subsequent from Bradsams and you will be up to speed with reality...
That may be true. But it would be nice for his paying customers to actually hear that from the CEO himself. Don't you think?
-If you don't trust JAFO then...??
It's not about trust. It's about doing the right thing. There is a difference.
No.
LOL
YES
No. It's called delegation of duty and/or confidence/trust in others to manage what's needed.
Please desist....
Agree with JCurie , yes we have finally have a post from Bradsams, but even though his post says he will answer questions, the most important question "When will WB 11 be ready" was not, although he did confirm WB 11 would come at some point. To know something will be coming, really does not do it for a lot of us.
Who is BradSams?
Question: Does the current WindowsBlinds work on Windows 11?
No, Windowblinds 10 don't work on Windows 11.
Thank you,
Basj,Stardock Community Assistant
Well, looking forward to WinBlind11 soon!
OK, then I misspoke -- as I realize that OD includes lots of apps.
What I should have said is that I cut back to only Startxx and WB.
I did, but no longer do, use the other OD apps.
Like you I only really use a few of the OD programs. Now it's just these 4 since updating to Windows 11: Start 11, Deskscapes, Fences 4 and I started using Object Dock again. Object Dock says it's not compatible with Windows 11 but it is working fine for me. I believe Tiles and Groupy work in Windows 11 as well but I am not a big fan of those apps.
Heck I'm paid up on Object Desktop for a few years, lol! Stardock runs renewal specials for $14.99 a couple of times a year. I always forget when I see it that I really don't need to add another year, and yet I do. My current subscription runs until 7/20/25 so I would assume they will have a compatible version of WIndowblinds by then! If you find you do use more than 1 or 2 OD components it's worth keeping the subscription active. Just enable email updates from Stardock in your account and they will let you know when they run a renewal price special next
"My current subscription runs until 7/20/25" Your subscription will probably last longer than Windows 11.
To all those interested in having a working WB10 and using it on the latest build of Win 11 Enterprise, check out the topic "Windows 11 - Not For Me"
Follow the lead from "PhoenixRising1" and install explorerpatcher from the link provided and as long as you follow one more step
"In the explorerpatcher options under file explorer options
Disable the windows 11 command bar* absolutely needs to check marked to yes."
Once this is done you will have a working WB10 on Windows 11 (in my case Win 11 Enterprise Latest Build)
No Explorer crashing WOW, i have one simple issue which i will iron out later connected to transparency, but i am sure it is a simple setting in Start11.
PhoenixRising1 great work man.
That screenshot shows windows with no frames, or should I say transparent frames. That skin shouldn't be that way.
I don't call that working.
This is the biggest move forward in the ability of using WB10 on a fully updated Windows 11, not even the company have gotten this far yet (no beta or any kind of early stage development, i guess there is no pleasing some peeps)
I am sure the transparent issue in borders will be solved as it will be a setting in either Start 11 or the explorer Patcher .
You say " I Don't call that working"
Before this development, it was just Explorer crash after explorer crash , and based on that NOTHING WORKED BEFORE.
Instead of a complaint, why not a pat on the back for getting this far when we do not even have a Beta of a working Windows 11 WBs.
Really 1 little fault which i am sure can be solved, before this we had nothing as a community, i have used Stealth Drone for several years, and beside that little error it looks like it should.
The Stealth Drone skin i am using has been modded by me to be dark with Electric Green Text and trimmings, so i am sure it should not look like that.
But beside what i have done changing system colours, and the one fault you have pointed out, there are NO explorer crashes.
Would it really be too much for you to say "good Effort" making something that did not work before, work now.
I have noticed that issue as well. It is actually a funny bug, because if you actually go to modify transparency in any way it starts to work. It just doesn't in the default middle for whatever reason
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