MICROSOFT STOLE MY SPECCY
Last night I started my machine out of hibernation to be presented with the log on screen, (normally it goes to my desktop), after logging on I had a pale blue screen and in large letters a message; ‘YOUR COMPUTER HAS BEEN UPDATED’, this was there for a few seconds before being replaced with ‘NONE OF YOUR FILES HAVE BEEN MOVED OR CHANGED, THEY ARE STILL IN THEIR ORIGINAL PLACE’ or words to that effect. My first thoughts were. Sh*t, I’ve been hijacked, especially when the your computer has been updated appeared again. Then a message appeared in the bottom right hand corner, ‘SOME OF YOUR PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN REMOVED, AS THEY ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM’. Sh*t again, waiting for a ransom demand. This screen was there for several minutes before I hit off switch and rebooted.
Log on screen as normal, logged in, OK, then a message, Speccy has been removed as it is not compatible with your OS. I clicked on the icon, NO SPECCY, cannot be found, Sh*t. Went to control panel, programs, no speccy. At no time did I have a message about an MS update.
Did a full security scan, no malware or virus’s
Checked my build no, Windows 10, V1511. 10586.29. then checked updates, Security update KB3116900 03/01/16. I then checked online, apparently this is the P I A November update, many people have had similar problems with the update removing so called incompatible programs, after this review, I found that CC cleaner had also gone. How many more? Perhaps I will find out over the next few days.
One interesting point, when I installed Windows 10 at the end of July/early August I was one of those who installed window blinds and Iconpackager before the warnings. I removed WB after following the threads, but didn’t remove IP because of the many problems people had had when uninstalling. It is true to say that I have had no problems with IP, except that it does not alter the folder icons. The latest Windows 10 update reset all of my icons, but did not flag IP as incompatible, I have manually changed all of those icons which I could, each time W10 sent me to IP for the Icon. I will not use IP now to blanket change my icons as I do not want to risk it, I dread to think what might have happened if the update had tried to remove IP. Is Microsoft going to determine what programs are allowed on their OS in the future?
My main concern (apart from being Pi**ed off at losing my programs) is if MS can remove programs during an update, what stealthware can it install to spy on and monitor our files at the same time, will it start to remove non DRM items, like Amazon tried with the Kindle several years ago. Even more to worry about with MS, (apart from my wife who has MS, but that is another story).
Also glad to report that no problems with WB10 after the update.
Oh, that's right...Windows Defender doesn't exist on any previous OS....like, you know....8 ....
That's NQR ...it was 95 [OS version 4.0] that 'invented' the BSOD ....and the biggest fail of all was Win Me ... [version 4.9]. XP was version 5.1 ....
I totally agree, Jafo. I spent more time under the hood on ME than on any other OS before or since. Vista was a welcome relief but not great. I ordered Windows 7 before it was released and it worked perfectly right out of the box. The only OS I refused to buy was Windows 8 although I had to learn it in the field. Not bad under the hood but the interface was poorly designed JMHO. As for Windows 10, it was installed on my system the day it was released. There were a few minor bugs but nothing major. I did disable some things I don't like but other than that, it is and has been working well. The only recent glitch was with an update to Flash Player for IE 11. Once I temporarily killed EMET, it installed just fine.
On another note, at this point in time, Verizon has no plans to carry the Windows 10 phones so that is not good news at all. Perhaps they will change their mind later on but from what I heard that is not likely. That will leave me with a choice of Android or iPhone as Blackberry has also gone to Android unless I can find a Linux phone that works with Verizon.
Yes, it's on win 8.... and is appropriately dealt with. I use other security software to manage malware and the like... and twice a month I scan with JunkwareRemoval Tool to ensure I have no PUPS or other unwelcome crap. Thus far I've not had an infection of any kind... like nothing in the last 7 - 8 years, maybe even longer.
Besides, that was not my point.... The point was/is not OS related, just that MS DOES scan personal hard drives.... and Win 10 makes it even easier with multiple back doors.
I love it Doc well done
Did I miss something? 2 + 1 ... Common Core?
Yea. I read it too fast, my bad. I blame it on my old eyes. Doc says I need bifocals. Damn him...
But you know, 1+1 can equal 3 under the right circumstances....
Hope you didn't mind the gentle ribbing.
No, it was well deserved. I shouldn't attempt to speed read until I get a new prescription.
Actually, 2 + 1 in the case of the 2 Frenchmen and the French woman could turn out to be four... with a paternity test to see which Frenchman is the father.
Ah...so it's only on 10 that it can't be likewise 'dealt with'.
It is absolutely absurd to laud the features/usage of 8 and 'diss' a virtually identical feature set in 10.
Put another way....if 10 scares the shit out of you [even though you have never used it] you will NEED to go back to something around the vintage of Win3 before you'll be any 'safer'.
I'm starting to smell a hint of 'troll'.
There is a lot of people who want to use the "latest and greatest" because they think it's better. Better in some ways maybe, but worse in others. For those who lust after Windows 10 here's a guide to stop the chattering OS:
https://hideu.wordpress.com/2015/08/13/how-to-kill-windows-10-privacy-spying-forever/
I consider this guide "overkill", but nonetheless interesting...
The fact that I do not want to install Win 10 is my perogative. However, just so we're clear, my distrust relates more to Microsofr since the regime change, and thus, the OS it released thereafter, being Win 10. And just because I don't like or trust something in Win 10, it doesn't mean I like it any better in Win 8.1. I have gone through Windows Update and uninstalled/disabled/hid all those listed as privacy threats. I disabled Windows Defender so it can't scan my hard drives.
The personal files on my PC are just that.... and it's not cos I have anything to hide.... they're MINE. And being they are MINE, I decide who scans, looks at and stores them. Like I said, it's not just Win 10. I just can't trust MS since the regime change and its business model took a wrong turn to try emulate Apple's.
If you smell 'troll' from that, so be it. My opinion won't change... and it's your perogative to silence me if you don't like it.
You know....every OS since Adam was a pup has a key logger....shock-horror!!!!! Look out!! Data-mining.
It's called an interface....
You have to go back to the time of Csirac to find one that doesn't.
For the great unwashed...Csirac is a first generation computer....and it's the only one left in existence...so if you want to use it...and be 'safe from prying'...feel free....though the Melbourne Museum has visiting hours...could stunt your style.
Also it's lightning fast....I think the processor is 4k.
It won't know what an Internet is...so it'll be 100% safe.
FUD is an acronym for 'bullshit artist'.
Said The Boss to Adam...
Not to labour the point, but Csirac's input was via teletype...so it too has a keyboard ....but there's no direct logging...only a 'reading' of the ribbon produced....
Fortran? ...shining light through a punch card [or was it magnetic...it's a long time ago]....that's gotta be evil incarnate....
The only way to form a credible opinion on pretty well anything is to experience it first hand, devoid of 'coloured'/creative rhetoric from 3rd parties with 'vested interests'.
To form a valid opinion one must at least TRY it.
I was accused of dismissing the 8 GUI without trying it...yet I had it on 3 systems in total [2 were VM].
I have 10 on 4 systems [real] out of 6.
I haven't died [yet].
Windows 10 is NOT evil. It doesn't kidnap your children and sell them into slavery.....and neither does any other OS.
Hysteria has abounded with every new OS, almost always from sheer ignorance.
However.
When one uses any OS since 7 you WILL find annoyances with their GUI. THAT is self-evident.
Most of what happens via forced updating [in 10] is not an issue.... but sometimes it can be.
That's it. All else is the rattling of empty vessels.
I am fully aware that every OS has had phone home feature and the like, including Win 8.1, and I'm not happy about that, either. However, Win 10 is the worst of a bad bunch and has opened up snooping technologies not present in past edotions.... those in the core which can not be disabled. At least Win 8.1 doesn't have that, and the majority of 'phone home devices, most of which were delivered via update since the regime change and the release of Win 10, can be disabled or uninstalled. I have done that and feel somewhat better about using my PC nowadays. I have doubts that I could/would feel that way with Win 10. True, there are 3rd party programs to disable those features of concern, but there would always remain the concern embedded in the core.
A lot of people dislike Apple for its business model and walled garden approach, the fact that its privacy policy has always resembled the latest from MS, yet many of those very same people are embracing Win 10 and espousing its 'great' new features.... features that Apple was criticised and condemned for. Okay, Win 10 isn't the walled garden just yet, but it will be. As it is, MS is already scanning PCs for non-preferred programs and uninstalling them... programs that users have reinstalled and which work in 10 without issue. If that's not dictatorial, then what is? More to the point, when/where does it stop?
Also, my objection to MS scanning personal files isn't necessarily about MS even seeing them, or even what they're doing with them right now... which MS claims is not a lot, if anything at all. It's about what MS could use that information in the future, not to mention that the entire concept is open to abuse... and Win 10 makes that easier than any other Windows OS before it. True, MS encrypts users data, but that's not going to stop over zealous law enforcement agencies from decrypting it or getting court orders to view perceived items of interest... all in the name of national security. You and I may not need to worry about that so much here in Oz, yet... not that I'd put it past Turnbull to follow the US in these things.
And then there's the hackers, people who have cracked many high profile corporations and government agenies with relative ease. Win 10 makes that easier because it collects and stores user data, which eventually could be harvested by hackers for whatever means. True, I could get hacked at any time on any OS while connected to the internet, but I see no point in providing them with a convenient backdoor to waltz right in.
So, my opinion of Win 10 still stands. Not only that, it is similarly shared by a few 'high profile' others, JcRabbit being one of them, so I'm not alone in my thinking and distrust of MS' motives regarding its latest OS.
Oh, and that's not very polite. I mightn't like or trust Win 10, but in expressing my opinion [FUD as some might call it] I'm not saying that Win 10 users are effwits or any other such thing. If people wish to use and trust it, that's their perogative... just as it's mine not to.
I bet you Jorge has used it....and I also bet his frustration/dislike is the same as what any coder would think, particularly those who know what a GUI is.
Okay, so you can have an opinion which is valid, but anything to the contrary is empty prattling and should be dismissed as such? Like I said before, I've not insulted anyone when expressing my opinion, which may be found useful and informative by those who haven't really thought about it... until now.
As for those 3rd parties [journalists and the like] with vested interests, that cuts both ways. There have been some who have had a complete 'about face' regarding Win 10. In one article they are exposing the pitfalls and concerns about it, and in the next they are espousing all its 'great' features. I mean, what's the incentive there? Money?... and we all know MS has plenty of it.
Anyway, that's it from me. There is little else I can add to this thread and I'm tired of comments that suggest I'm a "bullshit artist" and a fear monger.
Bye!
Mark...just give it a try. I'm loving it. Straightened out a whole lotta crap from my old W7.
Like a bloody race horse.
win def. heh. i had it scan once everyday as a backup scanner when i was using win7. it came bundled with vista and you can even get it for xp. it's just a very basic antimalware thing. i would bet it's a lot less intrusive than most security suites.
Any way to minimize windows defender from spying on a win 7 pc? (besides removing it completely?)
Spying? Wut?
Windows Defender spies on nothing.
I have mine disabled by using another program as my default malware scanner.
And we know this how?
Because we are allergic to tinfoil ...
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