Can we expect this exchange of ideas and feedback to be something that takes place here in the forums? Or will this be more of a Founders thing? I'm curious because while those in the program will have a lot to say, there are probably people with good ideas that may not participate in the Founders program whose input would be valuable. I'm wondering what format these exchanges will take, if not solely here on the message board anyway.

I'm not encountering a ton of constructive criticism coming from those who seem determined to say why this isn't Star Control before we've even seen one thing about it. This mostly just seems to be a platform for them to explain why not having the [UQM alien species] present means it's not Star Control, rather than offering positive ideas about how to make the game be as great as it can be.

Complainers aside, there are a lot of great ideas coming up in these threads that all share a sense of personal immersion in the gameplay. Having a high degree of interaction when you control your vessels, whether traveling through space, fighting other ships, or guiding your landers or other vehicles on a planet surface. Having the feeling that you discovered some ancient secret all on your own. If there's a chance to get your hands dirty doing a task, it should involve the player on a micro level in real time on the front line of the adventure, rather than automated for the player on a macro level and making them feel like they're just a casual observer.

One idea that springs to mind is expanding on the element of racing through space (or Hyperspace, as it were) to your destination. One of my favorite parts of SC2 was that you were always dodging and/or racing away from others pursuing you in Hyperspace, and this was essentially a "racing" minigame in itself. I think this aspect could be hugely expanded on and made to be very fun by giving the player more dynamic gameplay options. Hyperspace navigation was fun, but at the same time got to be a little boring if you were travelling long distances on autopilot, just twiddling your thumbs. Having a sense of who may be pursuing you, whether friend or foe, would allow us to know whether to stop and say hello or keep the pedal to the floor and not look back. Perhaps even working some kind of obstacle courses into the navigation that you have to maneuver through. I'm imagining something along the lines of the Millennium Falcon evading the star destroyers in an asteroid field in Empire Strikes Back; maybe not necessarily with that level of visual detail or what have you, but similar in terms of dramatic tone.

In the early game, you often didn't have enough thrust to escape fast ships in pursuit, but it would be awesome if perhaps we had use of special powerups or speed boosts to get further away from enemies chasing us. And maybe instead of just hitting escape to warp out of combat, you actually have to outmaneuver them and get away by putting enough distance between you and them before you can safely hightail it out of there and resume course. I always loved that element of racing away by the skin of my teeth and I think there are a lot of opportunities to make it feel more intense and dramatic.

This is a good point - it's the TYPE OF GAME that's so special and uniquely Star Control. It's the feeling you get - not the specifics of who you encounter or where. Truly, honestly, it's the SPIRIT that will live on, even if the Spathi don't.

Although, it's funny... the latest GalCiv DLC is showed in a banner atop this very page, lol... The SNATHI. That might be too cheap to include in a Star Control game

Also... why does everyone always mention the Spathi, as a favorite race to bring back? Those spineless weasels were NEVER my favorite.

I think the point many of you are missing is the laziness of the idea itself.

Stardock is stuck with a dilemma, how do you make a video game that can be apart of the Star Control franchise. BUT you cant use any of the already established lore, or characters. Their solution of a cataclysmic event in the past that creates an alternate timeline is NOT creative, its NOT original, and therefore it is NOT Star Control.

What about this game will BE Star Control? It cant possibly be 20 year old game play, and graphics. Nobody in this generation of kids wants to play a game with 20 year old game play. So if you take away the characters,  you take away the established lore, you take away the classic graphics, and you take away physical game play, than WHAT makes the game any different than any brand new game that  you could call anything?

Take my advice, BE CREATIVE, get your top people in a room and come  up with SOMETHING. If you try to force feed people the played out, over used alternate timeline story, you are telling potential buyers that you were too lazy to come up with something better.

Uh....if you're referring to my post that Star Control is a dead genre....yes, it is.  However, not because of the lack of enthusiasm from fans of that particular genre or the willingness for newcomers to enjoy that said genre. Its because the lack of GAMES.   I think the closest you have is the space/planetary exploration aspect of Mass Effect (horrible ending....btw) and perhaps an indi-game or two that I'm not aware of.

Also, ANY game is a financial risk to produce.  I'm thankful that Stardock has the cojones to develop this game, and I hope its an immense success.  However, there is still the risk that the developers make grave mistakes and the game could be a flop, both gameplay-wise and financially.

They didn't mean ONLY the Spathi. They meant ALL the aliens and ALL the lore from the original will NOT be present in the new game. They are making a video game that will have ZERO to do with the original Star Control.

Do NOT give me that Marvel analogy BS, Fox, Sony, etc do a good job writing those movies so that a story is told inside the Marvel Universe without directly mentioning the other heroes.  They do not simply explain it away by saying the X-men and Avengers are in different timelines. The Marvel analogy only fits if you tell a story from inside the original Star Control universe without encountering the original Star Control aliens. The problem is that  takes actual creativity, whereas Stardock seems to be taking the lazy way out by making an alternate timeline. Maybe im just sitting here banging the same drum over and over again, BUT maybe someone there will read these comments, and at least TRY to come up with a better story. If alternate timeline is the best you can come up with, I cannot imagine the rest of the story will be any better.

I was referring to Frogboys original post he said

"In movie terms, it's akin to the way the Marvel comics properties tend to get split up between Sony, Fox, and Marvel Studios (Disney)"

BUT its not anything like that at all, the properties that Marvel sell off are not able to simply ignore the past comic book lore, and market the movie as MARVEL. Ignoring all the races, and all the lore from SC2 would be like Sony making up a brand new Super Hero and slapping the name Marvel on it to get recognition.

I don't 100% agree, exactly the point that we all have been bringing up is the fact that they should not take away, the factor that made this game a GREAT game, and that is, the physics, story, the way you were entirely free to explore the universe, the exploration, planets, combat, technology and aliens, were extremely well balanced,

Space is space, and the engine was made to mimic the strangeness of space/ the universe, the universe does not change the way it works ever, nor should star control

as it is an adventure based inside the universe and it's physics. Of course graphics will be upgraded, however it has to be star control, not changed into another rts type game. I'm fine with 2d if done with today's cutting edge graphics, if they can find a way to do it 3d BUT retain the exact feel of SC2 a for away, how that could be done will probably challenging and if it does not feel right as in 100% right LEAVE IT 2D! let there be samples we could test offer us the players one or two options, should there be a drastic change, because it won't be starcontrol if it's changed to something different that does not feel the same.

Everything about the game, the story, the travel, the combat, the ships, the technology, the hidden secrets, the aliens, hyperspace, galaxy and planet scouting and also the lander mining was all exciting, i do however like the idea of simply exploring a different part of the universe where there would be different races away from current lore,characters, that could work, the universe after all might be infinite as no one as of date can yet tell how vast the universe is !

Also i agree with a post earlier that the spathi is not the be all end all, there are MANY other races i liked more.

I have to agree with UrQuanian.  I also have to wholeheartedly disagree with BUM783's comment (sorry!)

What about this game will BE Star Control? It cant possibly be 20 year old game play, and graphics. Nobody in this generation of kids wants to play a game with 20 year old game play.

There are so many games out there are on people's phones that reuse 20+ year old game play, and the the developers make a KILLING at it?  Heck, I'm SHOCKED at what is considered "fun" to play by the kids these days on their phones. Hell, even the graphics in some of those games are pitiful.  Yet, people still play them.

I mean, come on...Candy Crush?  That's just Bejeweled with a small twist!    Star Control II....hell, that's Asteroids with a small twist!  

SC2 blew my 13 year old mind on the 3DO. In fact, it was the first time I ever stayed up all night playing a video game solo. Like the rest of you, I have my favorite moments that stand out each time I replay the game. And I hold most of the races dear to my heart.  But what stood out the first time through wasn't the Spathi, or even the Kor Ah, impressed as I was by them. It was the vast exploration of the stars on a scale I had previously not experienced. The terror of running out of gas in the middle of nowhere, a sitting duck! The desire to see what the next system had in store for me and my crew. Learning the characteristics and backstory  Collecting resources to upgrade my ship into something formidable so I could make a difference in the story that was unfolding around me.

As great as the races from the first 2 games are in our hearts and minds, I agree with the majority who have chimed in on this thread that there's not a lot of (enjoyable) surprise to be had revisiting the same species in the same places. Strategically deployed allusions to a few of the staple races will be very warmly received, IMHO.

One question, and I apologize if it's been asked/answered already (I'm new here and still learning my way around but was so excited upon learning about the new SC game that I had to post)

-Would crowd funding any or all of this project be a beneficial possibility? If it allowed you more resources during development that equated to a higher quality/ larger-scoped game I would be VERY interested in participating

Probably just pc, the way it should be, as this game will be requiring a pc's abilities as it is far from just an arcade game, it has a huge quest factor, new graphics a MUST, they could perhaps do a melee on the xbox,ps, for the arcade part, the space pirates and zombie game have a couple of good ideas (just don't like the name), but looks good. however like i say, only ideas for the arcade part, changing it and making it feel like star control, blending in with all other factors seemlessly like transitioning into closer proximities when scouting a galaxy moving in on the various planets through space, and moving into hyperspace must all feel connected as in star control 2.

It's a good concept for a few ideas, but obviously make the ships more starcontrol like, i liked the fx and the way modules connected to one of those ships looked good,not happy with those ships, (but then again it is not starcontrol) and the combat must feel STAR CONTROL like, ie there is ENERGY in the combat of SC2, you are constantly moving towards or away from your enemy, not lingering for too long too close to the enemy as the risk gets higher the closer you get, then gravity effects, the balance in sc2 is so right ! ,however 3d scenes as in the ship itself moving in 3d should be kept to a minimal, the scenes i like on that video was at: 20 36 46, 52 58 105 109 110 seconds, liked the background it feels immersive. here it is again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKFyubLQTS8

What is your rational behind that opinion?    PS4 and XBOX1 are both basically a low-end computer, doing resolutions of ~900p for a lot of their games.

Any facts to back this up? There are more Steam active users than owners of PS4+X1 put together.

See above. And by that rationale Star Control II shouldn't have been ported to the 3DO.

Do you want me to list all the games that are PC only and were successful? To save myself time here is a list.

Star Control I was first released for Amiga and MS-DOS, also a source for "did quite well" would be nice.

Citation needed.

Your ignorance is irrelevant. Star Control was released first for MS-DOS, later ported to the 3DO after 2 years.

Again, lots of PC only games are very successful. Stardock has a quite a few. 

It is not a fact and you are wrong, so very much wrong.

Not even worth repeating myself. You have no facts, basically repeated the same drivel a number of times and failed to make any compelling arguments.