I just replaced the exe file.  If there was something else I needed to do, I didn't!  LoL.

I started a small game, 3 opponents, normal difficulty, occ/com/com for planets, as Altarians.

1.  My economy was ridiculously good.  26% tax, 100% spending, +77 net income all due to very high tourism.  (Numbers after about 10 turns).

2.  The density of anomalies is such that my survey ship is hitting 2 or 3 on every turn.

3.  I found 8 habitable planets in short in the area around Altaria.  7 were extreme, 1 (size 6) was habitable.    This might just be bad luck.

Something is amiss. I will get rid of my save game files and raceconfig files and see if that helps.

I figured out -- doh --- that for some reason the settings for anomalies and extreme planets were "abundant".  Don't know why they would have changed.   So that answers that.   My fault, I just whipped through only checking the planet frequencies because that is all I have changed.

After deleting prefs.ini  and removing the save files, rebooting and restarting, setting the frequencies properly the anomalies and exctremes are ok.

However, the economy is still very strange.   It was ok with the latest CU update.

I am going to reinstall the game and load the CU to see if it is ok.   If so then I will try the new exe file again.  Probably it is some glitch on my end, to be sure.

 UPDATED:

After reinstalling the game, with CU enabled and the new exe copied into the Twilight directory, the economy seems normal.   Something got corrupted!    Gremlins in my computer!

 Further UPDATE:  After reloading my save file (turn one) the tourism income was +77 bc?!  What the heck is happening?!

AYAUD:    After putting the original exe file back in place, I still have the weird tourism  income bug.   I am giving up for the night.  Sheesh.

 Last Update, I hope.   I didn't give up.  Turns out, not much of a surprize, I am an IDIOT.   I had been playing on Immense size galaxies, where tourism income at start is very small or zero, since one has a very small part of the universe.   On small with three opponents, large slice at beginning equals large tourism income.  What befuddled me was that this isn't calculated until turn 2.

So  it appears I can get past turn one now....please hold the applause.

No, because you're right - this is a serious bug which is totally gamebreaking on tiny and small maps.

I couldn't find anything helpful explaining the tourism-income so I made a few tests in order to compare numbers:

Using Torians @ 0% influence from turn 2:

Dreadlords:

Tiny galaxy:  Taxes: 34 bcs  Tourism: 3 bcs

Giga galaxy:  Taxes: 34 bcs  Tourism: 0 bcs

Dark Avatar:

Tiny galaxy:  Taxes: 23 bcs  Tourism: 4 bcs

Giga galaxy:  Taxes: 23 bcs  Tourism: 0 bcs

Twilight:

Tiny galaxy:  Taxes:  26 bcs  Tourism: 153 bcs (!)

Giga galaxy:  Taxes:  26 bcs  Tourism: 4 bcs

So it seems like Twilight did incorporate some changes to increase the Tourism income (which actually is a nice idea to counter the initial going broke after the colonial rush). On Gigantic it seems reasonable, but on Tiny it is totally out of whack. Using SuperDiplo with all points put into Influence I am able to scoop up to 275 bcs (!!!) from Tourism alone in turn 2. That totally defeats all purposes to establish an economy.

But it doesn't have anything to do with the new .EXE (haven't got them right now) this bug also appears in the unmodded game.

Actually I've encountered this bug before when working on my personal mod but I couldn't isolate the source of the problem. I noticed it when I worked on some raceconfigxml or the raceconfig but reverting bakc my changes didn't stop this bug. The only solution seemed to be to reinstall the game, deleting all folders manually after deinstallation then it was gone. But when I implemented my mod again the bug reappeared, so I gave up -.-

Actually Influence is always calculated like this. When you, for example, reload a game you'll notice that your zone-of-influence borders are slightly diminished - expanding a turn puts them back to normal. The only way to make them normal in turn 1 is to build something that triggers an influence-recalculation, such as colonizing a planet or building a starbase.

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I've made some more tests and I think I could isolate the bug to the starting planet. First of all, the sphere-of-influence it creates seems to be pretty heavy, it encompasses nearly 100% of a tiny galaxy if there wouldn't be another player present.

Colonizing the second planet, and relocating the inhabitant from Toria to the second initial colony. Afterwards, I've destroyed Toria and got this pic:

Stats are:

Torian Influence: 70%  vs  Krynn: 45%

Torian Population: 8b  vs  Krynn: 8,7b

Torian have 1 Influence Starbase. (build as the very last thing in order to trigger the influence recalculation)

Actually their zone-of-influence should be equal, or probably in favour of the Torians.

But the Krynn still have their original homeworld while the Torians are on their secondary planet (its Initial Colony building got automatically upgraded to a Civ Cap)

TBH that seems to be quite gamebreaking. Investing into Influence on Tiny/Small maps seems to get a better economical return than investing into economy (!) and it also brings other bonuses such as culture victory, flipping planets and IPs.

Tested & confirmed. Torians at 250 colonies have a starport everywhere and the only planets without a social queue are already outbuilt or show a single empty tile (probably from terraforming). Well done

5.6.7 Technology bug:

If i play as the Yor and i trade for technologies Xeno Industrial, Xeno Factory Construction, or Manufacturing Centers, i do NOT get access to the associated starbase modules:

• Advanced Starbase Factory
• Mining HQ
• Massive Scaling Center
• Resource Excavation
• Interstellar Collectors
• Extraction Centers

The techs all show up in my tree after trading for them, but when i upgrade an econ or mining starbase, these modules are never an option for me.

The most econ bonus the Yor can get is +25 from their various Yor techs. Mining bases cap out at around ~20 i think. In vanilla twilight it used to be something like +54 if you could trade for the other techs.

I'm thinking there must be some kind of prerequisite module i don't have access to that i'm missing. [?]

This is completely intentional. You don't get access to Basic Space Construction when playing the Yor which unlocks the prerequisite modules required to build the starbase modules unlocked by Xeno Industrial theory, etc.

The reason for this is that races that get unique industrial technology get unique starbase modules solely used by them and no one else can get them. Unique industrial tech tends to be more powerful and if you can techtrade for extra starbase modules your production will be boosted to godlike levels. This is severely unbalanced which is why I introduced Basic Space Construction which unlocks the first starbase modules for "clasic" industry users.

Actually I've thought that getting these additional mining modules is a sort of compensation because, when Thalans, Yor etc trade for the generic weak industry techs it actually weakens their overall production. The AI doesn't select the most powerful improvement. He selects from the available at random, although within terms of "has industy" or "has research".

So if Yor have +11 ind facs researched and you trade "Xeno Ind Theory" to them they will build these weak +6 ind factories in 50% of all cases - diminishing their potential by ~25%.

And because they don't overbuild or upgrade these buildings it might be even worse, let's say they want more production and research their own techs, then only 50% of all their planetary factories will see an upgrade from this.

IMO it would have been a better and cleaner solution to make these techs all untradeable.

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Version: 5.7.0

Link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/crnh2cvmra9fgop/Community%20Update%20V5.7.0.zip?dl=0

This update REQUIRES the new EXE file. Remove RACECONFIGXML files for Torians/Iconians.

Link to new EXE in file archive: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ke9ll9k0dkr9b0/GC2TwilightOfTheArnor-011515.zip?dl=0

============= V5.7.0 =============

THIS VERSION REQUIRES THE NEW TWILIGHT OF THE ARNOR EXECUTABLE!

Torians on AIP10
Iconians on AIP10

Planetary Improvements (tech) industry in all techtrees
Artificial Gravity Industry in all techtrees.

Terrans, Krynn, Drath research from Industry to Computing.

Removed "AIP8" tweaks. No longer needed.
Removed "AIP7" tweaks. No longer needed.

With the exception of Government and Ethical tech for AIP11 all the "tweaks" are GONE. This should make the creation of custom races very enjoyable as each AIP will do a slightly different job at research and with out a dozen "tweaks/fixes" littered in each techtree intended for a specific AIP research should be reliable.

Tested each race as I did in every version. It looks good and I get the feeling there's more hull progression. Also, AIP8 now loves biology tech and grabs Xeno Biology/Medicine/Fertility... without fail and on top of that they terraform. It's an entirely new AI but it looks good.

Enjoy.

No, either untradeable to all or tradeable to all.

No, individual stuff that is powerful is untradeable in many cases.

Please read my post again, as I've edited it in the time you've written this (I saw you already gave the info so I saw no need to repeat it)

Well, if you don't count in the initial one generic have +20% mining, so combined we are at 35%. That's not much considering how it was in DL, DA and even Tota.

I remember alot of talk in MV times because of these high Miners, but in the end, most of these races, esp. Yor and Thalan, are so weak in other areas (lacking the SCC, farms etc) that even these mining bonuses didn't make them suitable.

1-Im sure this has been asked before but couldn't find it in any of the stickies. How do you actually install this? I just copy pasted the folders and let them overwrite the directories, was this correct? 

2- When launching the game can you use the steam interface or do you need to launch through the new exe file?

3- How do you verify if the mod is in fact working?

Unzip the Community Update-folder into the mods-directory of the games installation-folder, on my drive the path looks like this:

C:\Program Files\Kalypso\GalCiv2Ultimate\Twilight\mods

(if "mods" is not present create it manually)

Start the game, go to Options and check "use mods" and select the Community Update as path.

Kill the game, go to your MyGames-folder and delete all raceconfigxml files.

Restart. Should be working fine then.

PS: You don't need Steam, start the GC2TwilightOfTheArnor.exe directly. BTW you need to replace this file with the one that Frogboy hosted on the previous page.

PPS: To 1: I think you should try to repair or update your game again so you can always alternate between vanilla and this mod, at least, as long as it hasn't become the final build.