One of the most effective counters to the TEC starbase's red button is to build culture centers. Starbases under the influence of hostile cultures cannot use their abilities, RB being among them. This has been proven in skilled multiplayer matches, where a majority of the pros use this tactic to great effect. However, recent events have caused me to question this long-standing belief. I have recently learned that certain researches can counter the fearsome TEC ability more effectively than culture centers ever could.
Take for example the advent and vasari superweapons. The deliverance engine shoots out a beam of culture from the targeted planet, effectively acting as a superior culture center. This means that you are no longer limited to disabling just the starbases that border your empire. The Kostura cannon on the other hand inflicts damage AND disables all buildings in a gravwell for ~15 minutes, allowing you to easily destroy anything in the gravwell.
Based on this evidence, I think the majority of the community must conclude that the age old tactic of using culture centers to counter RB is very antiquated. A superior option exists.
I notice some people do not believe/know culture affects use of starbase abilities. I will link a handy replay of a skilled MP game showcasing it. Here you go:
http://www.2shared.com/file/Hvt1KEwO/AutoRecord-05182008.html?
Make sure to skip to 1:34:54 to see it in action. Watch how the team 1 player prevents the other team from using a critical red button to turn the tide of battle. Amazing stuff!
Must have missed this in the change log.
So is Goafan saying that kostura cannons do not disable enemy buildings? Or something else?
BTW, this wasnt in a recent changelog, but a part of the game since entrenchment. Where were you all this time?
IIRC star bases, while not immune to Kostra Cannon, are only shut down for 5 seconds as opposed to the 20 seconds that all the other buildings in the gravwell undergo. That's really not much time. This was changed in Diplomacy IIRC.
Oh and I have never seen culture shut down a star base. Is that a new mod that MP plays?
I think we both know culture has never disabled Starbase abilities. I didn't quote any part of your OP that mentioned the Kostura.
I always flak spam the starbase into oblivion. Just hope the TEC starbase doesn't have the frigate factory upgrades and build some defending flak of it's own.
You're a moron -- it's 15 hours, not minutes...
Can't you read a simple infocard?
You're a moron -- it's 15 hours, not minutes...Can't you read a simple infocard?
No, its 15 minutes. Check the game files. I used to mod for recreational purposes back in diplomacy so I know my shit.
Be nice.....
Feel the BURN Seleuceia. Time for a wicket barbeque party!
We have an obvious troll thread filled with lies and sarcasm, and the most pressing concern here is....
BE NICE
This is what happens when a gaming forum is policed by people who don't know anything about the game....
It's sad non modders and non MP are sprouting such misinformed nonsense.
Cuz Goa has never made a mod not to mention anyone else in this thread.
I have a confession guys...I have never even played this game, I've just read the manual and the steam reviews...
You still know more than I do. Or is that more than Sinkillr? Or both?
Really? Is that why my replay says otherwise? This is almost embarrassing to watch as Goafan utters falsehood after falsehood that is repeatedly debunked by facts and solid evidence. I recommend for him to drink a tall glass of shut-up juice before he embarrasses himself more.
I'm sensing a Christopher Nolan film in the making...
Yeah, I know absolutely nothing about the game.....
Anyways, the "be nice" comment was directed at calling another user a moron. I'd suggest dropping it at this point.
Funny how Seleuceia runs away after the mod exposes him as a troll.
A master journeyman of disguise, able to change his name at will and spout all sorts of rhetoric without any basis in logic or reality.
He's not the Sinkillr we deserve... he's the Sinkillr we need barely tolerate.
But Sin, wouldn't that be you running away as well?
OMFG.
Sel, i suggest you can claim victory in trollfight vs sinkllr!
Seleueceia. you have admitted to trolling numerous times in both this forum and the steam one. Please stop before you further embarrass yourself.
Show me "my" posts in the steam forums...this will be interesting to see since I don't post there....
Or perhaps I do, but don't remember because I have multiple personalities...perhaps, Sinkillr, you will help with my psychiatric diagnosis...
Perhaps myself will help myself identify myself...
I post in the steam forums. Pretty sure Ryat and Goa do too.
QED you post in the steam forums.
Well now who can argue with that?
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