Update 5/25/2017
Well, I started a thread back in Dec 2011 that’s seen a lot of activity (some 922,000 views over the course of a few years apparently...). That thread had a good deal of tips/strategies/discussions about League of Legends from new and old players alike. You can find the previous thread (now archived) here: https://forums.joeuser.com/413863. I think its time to start fresh with a new thread.
What’s this thread all about?For those that followed the previous thread, the type of content you see here will be fairly consistent to what you are used to. Please consider this a place to discuss LoL related content as you like. I'll do the same and treat the thread as a blog as well where I talk about what’s going on with me in LoL. Feel free to jump in and join the discussion if you like.
Quick background on meI played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust. Back in August 2011, I started getting heavily involved in League of Legends, and folks from the community were kind enough to help me figure things out. I play LoL most nights, stream, make videos and it’s my main gaming interest.
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Really well played tonight everyone. Great last game.
Was def nice to go 4/0 for the night including 3 ranked wins anyway. Gotta say I was pretty pleased with how I did as nidalee last night. Went 8/2/5 in game 1 (vs a plat 3 vayne) and 5/0/2 in game 2 (vs baddy mcbad gold V syndra). 1st off, I floated around 140-160 ping for most of the night. Made last hitting mechanics a little more difficult, but I kept pace in both games at least.
I'm really enjoying trying to figure out the best way to handle various opponents in lane. That irelia from the other night is still the toughest nut to crack for me as I'm not sure how best to trade. It might come down to just trying to keep up aaing her and then sucking up some damage when she lunges forward then slows and perhaps try to get a trap underneath myself whens he does that so I can trade at higher dmg. Haven't got a chance to try that out.
Vayne was a little annoying to figure out. My opponent was particularly good at always landing an aa anytime I moved up to get an aa on her during laning. This meant that her trade potential went way up as she'd position herself behind her creeps very well. So, I couldn't follow up with a spear and if I tried to do anything keeping with that aggressive posture, she'd land 3 hits and I'd end up a bit more chunked/unsafe for the next fight. Anyway, she did a good job dictating the pace of the lane and didn't make a ton of mistakes. That said, the moment she'd try to go for an all in (eg run past the creeps to try to get meh), I'd go for a spear which hits and then run my burst combo. This resets our posture to some degree as I'm chunked a bit and she is as well.
She made some really aggressive attempts to try to kill me, but I managed to get out safely for the most part. Having tp meant that if that happened, I'd just heal and port back with very little loss. Now, where I outplayed the crap out of her is what I'm proud of. I had multiple instances where I used brief vision outages to reset my positioning, hunt procs, and cooldowns. I had at least 4-5 kills last night where I was low and picked up kills due to outplaying folks.
re: syndra v nid matchup. Syndra has nice wave clear, but cannot fight you up and close. You just bide for your time for a little bit. Stay mobile while you are csing and poke as possible. Once I figured out her pattern, I started to just walk towards her at an angle so there would be no creep wave between us and forced her into bad spots. I think I went dorans, phage, boots and then merc treads immediately to mitigate dmg/cc so I could easily all in. Nid's big adv vs syndra is her mobility. You just hop over her, stay close and keep moving around and you can avoid the cc pretty easily when you engage. And if she doesn't land much on you, her ult can't take you out.
anyway, I'm learning quite a bit and have a ton to learn. So far I've played vs jax/rene/irel/synd/vayne... off the top of my head. The only one that gave me problems re: figuring out trades was irel.
side note - I think I'll be geting off work early today and will def be checking this out on PBE
Doom Bots of Doom Enabled on PBE!
I wont be around until Monday night. I am going on a small vacation. Feel free to play ranked games of Twisted Treeline or 5's without me. I think we have enough people that know how to play twisted treeline now that people could play it without me *cough* Brad, Karl, bryff, pacov *cough*. Have a nice 4th of July weekend everyone!
Have a good weekend dr cow!
k - streaming now - about to try out the new game mode on pbe
Ok - so I played a game of DOOM bots on pbe. 1st off - super buggy arse on pbe right now. People said that if you chat after 12 minutes in game, the game crashes. The bots also do some weird, unintentional things. zyra, for instance, when killed would not cast use her passive until she hit like level 6.
There are 3 difficulty modes, but you have to unlock them. The ai's are about as smart as they always have been, so no real improvement there imo.
Let me give you some examples of the abilities and what's going on. 1st - zyra auto casts her seedlings, 2 at a time, very close to you or right behind you at a crazy distance. When fiddle ults, ghosts of fiddle appear and start to ult in what appear to be random locations on the map. Lux's ult laser shoots in all direction around her (you can dodge as its all straight lines, but its about 9 lasers or something. Morg's snare is beastly - it shoots in multiple directions, multiple shots at once - one of them appears to home in on you if possible. Amumu's ult is close to the full size of the screen. And, I'm not sure, but they seemed to take out towers very quickly when allowed to do so. They might just have normal damage for that though.
Anyway, that is what a level 1 game was like. It was interesting and I enjoyed yelling a bit when horrible things happened to me (placed into cc hell for a bit), etc. Kind of fun - probably something I'll play a few times and move along. While the mode felt like a little bit of a mess, its clear riot's been working on some things as it looks like a bunch of custom coding that's all champion specific. Must have been in dev for a bit.
Here's a vid of the playthrough if anyone cares - uploading to youtube as well: http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1/c/4589108
I tried out both of the new mecha skins: malph and aatrox. Both looked really good. I really liked the malphite skin. When your armor shield is active, you are the color blue. When it is off, you turn reddish orange. When you press your w, there's a brass knuckle (more or less) animation that is added. The animation is a bit long I think, but its cool. When he presses b, he turns into a drill and drills back to base. His skin looks really, really good imo.
Here's a link to the malphite game I played where I checked out all his animations, etc: http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1/c/4589193
Been on LAN mostly tonight. Do you guys not enjoy leveling accounts at all? I assume I'm a little weird, but I like leveling up accounts from time to time to mix things up. Always feels good when you unlock a new mastery point, etc.
I enjoy playing on my level 30 smurf account when I'm not stomping so bad that I don't feel good about it or when my allies are so bad that it doesn't matter how fed I get. It's fun to play games where you're almost guaranteed to be the best player in the game cause it forces you to remember that when you have all the teams gold, you have to play carefully. It's also great to be able to unlock champs again!
But no, leveling up smurf account is just a chore I did cause a few old high school buds of mine got into the game at the same time. I can't stand being in games where I don't have as many runes an masteries as I normally would, feels like it totally throws me off for when I play a regular game. Why play to make yourself worse?
So, this is pretty much the twitch build now imo: 1 dorans + health bot + trinket ward. Botrk > berserkers > ghostblade > ie > lw > variable. The powerspike when you get ghost is pretty sick. Best for team fights, ofc, but it if its up, lets you take towers really easy.
I add in a second dorans if it seems like I need it (cait lane for instance).
things I say on lan that might mean what I think: cualquier cosa menos de la selva
Anywhere but jungle = nidalee low lev
Saw this idea over on reddit - not a terrible idea as long as you aren't looking to invade.
Start with a yellow trinket and place the ward where u prefer. Then recall and get your red trinket. You protect your own jungle and your red trinket will be off CD for your first gank.
Edit: The trinket swap is BEFORE you even start your jungle..... I'll make it easier: Minute 00:00 buy yellow trinket -> minute 01:00 place yellow trinket and recall -> Buy red trinket and start your jungle route. (as long as you recall before 01:30, you will make it in time)
got in some games with dr karl tonight. Not super fun for either of us. We laughed it off, but were playing with a few so so folks (one that wanted to jungle and the other that wanted to support). Went about how I thought it would. A bunch of people dropped for the last lobby except karl/pacov/level 19 player. I decided to call it a night to give karl an out (figured the last game would be the same stuff). Anyway, really nice fellas we met with the exception of the super talkative guy that wanted to be called mam or something that karl eventually pissed off enough to get them to leave the chat. hue.
reminder for me - both hunny and dan stated playing in tourneys with another group - dan said he won 1600 rp. Post on reddit recently said admins f'd him in the butt by the group that runs tourney.. bakckl top lan
Yep!Heard about Victorious Gaming tournaments recently, max capacity of 1600 players each sorted out by MMR.
Top 20% attending = Division A etc. all the way down to Division E (bottom 20%).
Tournaments are held every day by the community at I believe 3 or 4 PM PST.
Today was a special day though, I guess Turtle Beach sponsored the event, and in lieu of the whole normal prizing by Riot, (3200 RP for winning team + Triumphant Ryze), then 2400, 1600, 800 etc. They tacked on Turtle Beach Z22 Headphones.
So because there are 5 different divisions, that means that there are 5 different winning teams = 25 headsets and so on and so forth. The prizing each day is 200k RP in total by Riot.
The community's TS has some nifty tools that they made to sort out the players into their corresponding MMRs etc, you just pretty much have to be there in the TS and the tools do everything for you for the most part, you will understand if you partake.
But yeah, happened to get paired up with 3 pretty cool people (our 4th was kind of a booty the first game but didn't talk too much after our first game).
Here's my bracket, http://organizers.challonge.com/e11guv7f. I was on team a31.
And we placed 3rd after a grueling 6 long games. If we didn't lose our 5th game we would've been in the finals. Afterwards, we played the other losing team from the semi-finals for the 3rd place position and we snagged it.
These were really challenging games overall and I feel as though it may help you progress as a player since it matches you up randomly with people of similar MMR hence the multiple divisions.
But yeah, in response to the whole http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/29y0oy/never_again_will_i_play_for_a_victoriousgaming/ hullabaloo on reddit.
The OP is supposed to have the same exact name in TS as he does in League. My IGN is DanKnee, so my TS for them should be DanKnee. However the site has some clever registration shenanigans so that your TS name upon registration is bound to your League of Legends account. So I go to the website and put my League ID (DanKnee), I must log into TS to confirm that I am DanKnee in TS and it links it to your League account or whatever. However, what the guy did was probably linked his account so for example if his League name was like HotshotGG, he would have to go on TS and put his ID HotshotGG so the tool confirms or something. So after this happened, what I think the OP did as he confesses is changes his name to HeartBeat or whatever who happens to be a Challenger player and kept that name in the Victorious Gaming TS (his League ID is obviously different). He coincidentally does really well as ADC in a C or something bracket and people were curious about why his IGN was different from his TS. (Remember his MMR was set when he registered for the site, so his name could've been like DanKnee (me) and then later changed his name in TS) which he shouldn't have done in the first place if he had read the rules initially. Your League name should be the same as your TS name which he didn't follow. So then the higher-ups talked to him about the whole thing, but the people in charge of the site in general are mostly volunteers, and of course there would be some bad eggs, and the dude got the short end of the stick. So I just think it's both sides at fault honestly. But the whole circlejerk on reddit is giving the site a really bad rep. Compared to other tournaments VG allows the opportunity for anyone the equal chance to earn RP etc.
http://www.victoriousgaming.com/
Is the website ^.
TL;DR, Honestly, the tournaments are pretty damn nice for what they are. Dude didn't abide by their rules, and as a result happened to get paired up with admins or whatever who happened to be very unprofessional and crude etc.
That guy was fun. He died at level 3 (pure 1v1 with no jungle interference) and made some crappy comment about me not helping him in lane. I didn't bother saying anything even though I was playing WW, so I'm not sure what he expected. Then, I decided to be a nice guy and gank his lane a few times when I hit 6, especially since the Ziggs he was against was pushing pretty hard.
The first time I told him I was coming in in chat and he did nothing. I suicided for the kill, but he didn't even get an assist because he did no damage. This made me not so happy since I wouldn't have died if he had managed to use one skill. I politely asked him to fight next time. He explained that he wasn't going to do that because he was afraid. I pointed out that he didn't have to be afraid since the Ziggs wasn't going to hurt him while suppressed in my ult.
We then tried again the next time my ult was up. Same thing basically, but this time I just die since he abandoned me. I think he got a few auto attacks off before running. He expressed that it was stupid for me to gank for him while he was under his own tower since he was just trying to stay alive and wasn't looking to fight (he was at half health or more both times). I said that of course it makes sense to gank when the other person pushes all the way to tower, and he left the channel. He then trolled me a bit for the rest of the game (randomly stole jungle camps so I couldn't get conservation stacks).
Junglers like it when you die 1v1, blame it on the jungler for not helping, then the jungler does come and gank you just watch the jungler die for no reason. Its funny! And I was actually pretty polite about it to - he was way more upset than I was.
I'm going to bed now, but wtf karls. I let you off the hook at midnight and here you are putzing about on the forums. How dare you. Create a LAN account already to blow off steam.
I reads em tomorrow.
edit - re-read dan's comment = pacovs note to self. Want to talk about that. Beat me to the punch and discuss!
Or just don't play with annoying people who let you 1v1 when you come to gank for them after they blamed you for dying 1v1 before and make you call them mam? Or if you do play with annoying people who let you 1v1 when you come to gank for them after they blamed you for dying 1v1 before and make you call them mam, then put them on mute in TS3?
But I guess if you really really don't want to stop playing with annoying people who let you 1v1 when you come to gank for them after they blamed you for dying 1v1 before and make you call them mam, then you could make a LAN account to blow off steam. But what do you do to blow off the steam from playing a level 4 account on LAN with people who don't speak english?
Does anyone here know how to say "mam" in portuguese?
I am almost sad that I missed out on this "mam" guy. Sounds like a real winner.
Welp, participated in the tourney today?/yesterday?
Got 2nd place this time around, really close final game.
It so happens that 3+ of our games got streamed, I think it was the quarter, semis, and finals.
http://www.twitch.tv/victoriousgamingtwitch/b/545210003
http://organizers.challonge.com/swdefrgthyj
Team 7.
So - these tourneys - how much of a time commitment are you putting in? How did you guys decide on roles? How much of a hassle to make it happen?
Walk me through it a little bit more if you have the time. Let's say I want to play in a tourney today. Is that possible as a brand new person to the site? Do I have to just wait around and not do anything else to participate? Etc
Thanks!
There are 6 games total if you get to the semi-finals/finals.
Single elimination 64 team tournament if all the slots fill for each division.
So if you lose your first game, the time invested may only be like an hour, however if you win all your games it's going to maybe last 5+ hours, lol.
Yeah the registration process for the community/tournament only takes a few minutes, they have a lot of tools on their TS that organizes the tournament.
In regards to how did we decide roles, everyone was flexible for the most part.
I asked my team what position they wanted nobody wanted mid, so I just said "oh okay I'll take mid then" and that was the end of that. But it may not be that easy with the people others get matched up with. The whole role process went swimmingly for me every single time.
If you register for their website/TS and participate/try to participate in one tournament it's a lot easier to understand than me explaining it.
But yeah, you pretty much register your TS with their website/your League account and then hop in their TS at the designated time, go to a certain room then play the waiting game.
We probably won't be seeing him again. I think I played with him during a MC in house game where he was either on the other team or didn't run his mouth quite as much, so I gave him an invite to a game the other night. That won't be happening again.
Still putting in some time on my LAN account. I keep coming across more and more folks from the US now. Makes me wonder if they are grouping us together to some degree. Anyway, I'm still enjoying my time on LAN and still certainly liking the ping quite a bit more than on NA. Nice to have options at any rate.
I'll pop on NA tonight and see if folks are around; otherwise, I'll probably hop back over to LAN. I'm just about due to get back into playing solo queue ranked on NA. Been a few weeks since my last game I think and I'd rather not toy with things if people are getting demoted in less than 30 days. I would be a bit pissed. Just checked in on karl's progress (he was plat V and got demoted early to gold I). He's currently in his promo series back to Plat V, but its 1/2 atm (best of 5). Good luck!
Dan - so what happens re: waiting about? Let's say I win game 1. How do I know when game 2 will begin. Do I just have to wait about? Does it get scheduled for X time? What happens if someone flakes out after playing a game?
The thing I hate about tourneys is waiting around for really long, indeterminate periods of time, for a game.
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