Update 5/25/2017
Well, I started a thread back in Dec 2011 that’s seen a lot of activity (some 922,000 views over the course of a few years apparently...). That thread had a good deal of tips/strategies/discussions about League of Legends from new and old players alike. You can find the previous thread (now archived) here: https://forums.joeuser.com/413863. I think its time to start fresh with a new thread.
What’s this thread all about?For those that followed the previous thread, the type of content you see here will be fairly consistent to what you are used to. Please consider this a place to discuss LoL related content as you like. I'll do the same and treat the thread as a blog as well where I talk about what’s going on with me in LoL. Feel free to jump in and join the discussion if you like.
Quick background on meI played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust. Back in August 2011, I started getting heavily involved in League of Legends, and folks from the community were kind enough to help me figure things out. I play LoL most nights, stream, make videos and it’s my main gaming interest.
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No changes to Runes and Masteries in the Pre-Season! - Meddler
FAERIE CHARM + 2 POTS OP
My favorite part of that build is how much gold you have left over.
I also liked how he had the damn charm all game long. I mean, if you are going to do a dead end mana item, at least get a Ring (which wouldn't be absolutely terrible on Ezreal).
cow says "I'll go bot with Pete."
pacov says "MUHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA"
Ah well... glad we won that game at any rate.
I would assume it was going to be manamune eventually but he was dying too fast to make it worthwhile to finish.
[quote who="Krazikarl" comment="828"]My favorite part of that build is how much gold you have left over.[quote]
I think that was his point. He wanted to get a BF sword on his first back.
Looks like the LoL server migration is taking place early this morning (wed morn). They didn't announce that is what they are doing, but I'm pretty sure. Downtime is somewhat extensive (12 hours... prob a little more). If I understand things correctly, PBE is already in this new data center and I get about 10 lower ping on a regular basis.
streaming dumptrucks
I'm scaling back my streaming a bit. Will always stream ranked and will stream if I think its interesting. Won't be daily streaming going forward though - at least until the season starts up.
wow... so downtime still going on now. Supposedly things back up within an hour.\
And patch 4.20 is rolling out this morning also...
http://oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-420-notes
READ THE NOTES. This is the big patch bby. Preseason crazy time
also end of game gifting faq - https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/202863314
Kalista champ spotlight
why do i feel like riot just deployed 4.20... something to do with me patching a bunch now... hurm...
well.. the urf code reveals a kalista login screen - still down
going to stream some on pbe methinks
ah - I was right. 4.20 is live. Looks like riot was like fug this... 20 hours of downtime already, might as well..
Anyway, servers are back - HUGE queue time tho fellas. Start logging now eh or bugger off until tomorrow.
We are going to have to talk a TON about jungle strategy. The new smite mechanic is actually super interesting and brings in so many new potential strats, etc. Smite to kill red - HUGE hp bump (I can gank even if I was low). Same diff on blue with Mana. Wraith camps all you to see wards (mini oracles) - this means mid can get even more scary or you can clear other things... jungle XP reduction if you are a smite/tp putz (looks at trick's croonies (I'm semi reformed).
We need to figure out what the best starts are based on new setup, etc.
10-15 min wait real - on now
also kalista is live... deese guise...
Skarner actually seems pretty amusing with the new items in the new jungle.
I did Juggernaut upgrade, Swiftness boots, the new Righteous Glory item. Then I just ran around the map REALLY fast and was pretty tanky and if anything got near me they were REALLY slowed. Some fool Kalista/Braum tried to kite me. It did not work.
To be fair I was playing with a Veiger, and using Skarner ult to drag people into Event Horizon is one of the more fun things you can do.
Jungle is brutal on champs that aren't kitted for it now.
I really like the righteous glory item. Worked really well with mobi boots + blitzcrank. Just run at people and don't even bother to grab just knock up then grab for longer CC. Also curious how insane garens health regen can get with new health item (not sure what its name is). Zengod might have to chime in.
1st.. You can throw Fiddlesticks in the middle of channeling his ult as Kalista
oh my... pink ward + ult.
Also, I think I already know the answer to this question, but I'll ask. So peter has a fairly extreme tunneling problem. Probably the worst I've seen of anyone I know that plays League. For example, if his mid lane is going awful he will spend a very large amount of time apologizing over and over and COMPLETELY lose any awareness of anything else that is happening in the game.
An example from last night - Pete's mid lane gets pushed and he's up against a hyper aggressive akali (but with fairly low kill potential), so I camp mid to setup for a gank. We know akali is aggressive and it pete moves into a risky position, she will take the bait and dbl buff pacov will hop on her as xin with my flash up (eg she's dead). Well, peter decided that instead of securing that kill against a highly predictable opponent, he would rather I just help him reset his lane so he can farm (he started tunneling on farming). A few minutes later, our team takes dragon - pete's standing at mid with his ult up farming creeps having about 35 seconds to rotate to drag - he's still tunneled on creep farm. The game continues like this where he just tunnels on w/e he gets interested in, but he's generally not interested in team fighting and we eventually lose a game even after 4 of us took out an inhib, both inner turrets at the base around 18 minutes in.
Anyway, I try to talk to pete about this, but he gets offended, but seems completely incapable of understanding that his tunneling is kind of a major problem for him and his team. He says he wants to get better, but I don't see how he can is its super easy for him to get thrown out of balance and tunnel. Any thoughts on how to help pete with tunneling or is something that simply can't be helped (and therefore a liability any time he's needed).
Any thoughts? Nightblue jungle list. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U_l0GPl6LVdYJeqa70Vdfdok4QcgxfebWX34cuzUyGM/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
also this tip
YOU CAN TELEPORT TO KALISTA'S WARD-GHOST THINGS
other thing I learned last night - that crab in the river on south side gives dragon vision when its been killed. It's as good as ward and can be worth killing from bot lane or as jungle before backing for vision. Do be aware that the other team gets vision if they kill it. It's easy to tell if they have vision on you - just understand that they do when you see the effect
also also- qss is only 1.2k gold now
also also also - elixir of wrath is apparently the way to go on ARAMS now - its duration is increased on kills/assists.
Next - big copy paste from reddit on jungle strats with some explanations.
Camp Buffs
Razerbeak’s Smite Buff is OP
Gives blue side early advantage over bot lane and dragon. Smite the big minion then go looking for wards to clear around dragon mid or bottom. If none are spotted you are in the clear to gank. Be aware of enemy jungler or laners coming to protect wards. Op because of the vision control it gives you around that side of the map.
Alternatively, Razerbeak gives Red side a late game advantage with Baron control.
Good camp to counter jungle with Smite. Denies the enemy jungler a chance to clear wards and gives you knowledge of their wards.
Gives level 2 from level 1.
Grump’s Smite Buff is Good for Farming
Wolves are kinda dumb
Not much to say about the wolves. Smiting them gives you a little vision wolf that can spot jungle invades. Guess it would be good to smite if you’re just farming or scared of invades.
Good to smite if your bot or top towers go down early.
Golems are also dumb
Jungle Starts Most paths require you to back after second buff depending on if you're Warwick or not.
Grump: Most Efficient. (Best for Red side)
Grump, use Smite right away > Get Grump buff then solo blue > Red Buff use Smite.
Pros:
Cons:
EDITED Thanks too NaughtyGaymers suggestion(Best for Blue side)
Doubles use Smite > Red > Small camp either Razerbeaks or wolves > Blue Buff use smite.
Red: Smiteless (Best for Blue side) NOT TESTED
Red, save smite > Blue use smite > Wherever you’re little heart desires.
Not level 3?
May take a lot of damage
Invades
As always invades are risky, but I'm not sure yet just how much the risk they are worth it. Because of the strength of the new jungle camps, it opens up some opportunity for counter jungling like we saw in seasons past. Some of the main counter jungling routes are still plausible, and maybe even stronger now. Such as:
Keep in mind both of these routes depend on what jungler you're playing and what side the enemy jungle starts.
Hope you enjoyed. Let me know what you guys think!
EDIT: Blue actually gives lvl 2 now. In pbe in was only lvl 1.
Sounds like the same old Pete. I think we've all heard him say he wants to improve over the years and we've all been removed from his friends list after trying to tell him how.
My advice would be to play around his game and maybe just follow him around a little more. Just try and realize that certain objectives and strategies aren't going to be available to you in Pete Games?
Probably right - just same old crap. You really notice what he's up to when you are jungling (just can't really wrap my head around things). I don't like winning games in spite of teammates. Ah well, guess I'll just get used to it and/or not play w/ as often. I really like Pete too... just don't get his freaking brain...
Well, your general point about Peter is, of course, correct.
But I was watching this part last night, and you are probably wrong here.
You need to press tab. Peter tried to tell you the key fact - he couldn't quite get the words out - but he told you that Akali had "that one item that gets out of us ult". She had a QSS and was WAY ahead of him. The QSS changes everything since she can now get into her stealth for free even if Pete ults her, and you didn't have a pink to see her. Since the lane was past halfway and Pete's ult was useless other than QSS bait, there was no kill there.
The early QSS + big lead hoses Malzahar, and you needed to let Peter have proper lane depth so that he wasn't so far pushed. Intentionally pushing his lane to tower against one of the most deadly assassins in game when his main tool is out and he is behind is not nice. Please stop pushing lanes to tower when those lanes are behind. Zoning out your own teammate for 5 minutes isn't worth denying the opponent 5 creeps.
So yeah, even a broken clock is right a few times a day.
Guessing we just disagree re: the call. The lane thing I did wasn't cool though. But with everything I had and even with a qss on akali, I really don't see her getting away or getting a kill. QSS is nice to escape from malz. Dmg items are nice for killing people... unless you are saying she had some crazy damage item that I didn't see.... I'm really not sure how you can kill pete let alone get away from xin with flash/ult + dbl buff. The key I was trying to communicate is that she will, without a doubt, overextend and that he will,without a doubt, survive her doing that due to my gank. The one thing that was needed was for pete to move just close enough to her so she could ult to him. Anyway, sounds like one of those no you are wrong no you are wrong exciting discussions we have from time to time.
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