Update 5/25/2017
Well, I started a thread back in Dec 2011 that’s seen a lot of activity (some 922,000 views over the course of a few years apparently...). That thread had a good deal of tips/strategies/discussions about League of Legends from new and old players alike. You can find the previous thread (now archived) here: https://forums.joeuser.com/413863. I think its time to start fresh with a new thread.
What’s this thread all about?For those that followed the previous thread, the type of content you see here will be fairly consistent to what you are used to. Please consider this a place to discuss LoL related content as you like. I'll do the same and treat the thread as a blog as well where I talk about what’s going on with me in LoL. Feel free to jump in and join the discussion if you like.
Quick background on meI played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust. Back in August 2011, I started getting heavily involved in League of Legends, and folks from the community were kind enough to help me figure things out. I play LoL most nights, stream, make videos and it’s my main gaming interest.
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Did some team builder today and met a nice group of peeps. 1 guy seems to really like playing wukong mid. Anyway, I decided I wanted to work on my thresh game and I did really well with the adc I met, so we duo'd some ranked. 2/0. Gold 1 75 LP. Had a 2/0/20 game as janna and did a really good job. Was going to make some comment about racing to beat karl to Plat... then saw karl had a rough day in ranked. Sorry bro.
Missed out on playing w/ swan as I wanted to roll with ranked. Hope to catch you again soon.
Oh - I picked up destiny on Ps4. Really dig it. Lots of fun so far and its really well done. Anyone else have destiny?
Yeah, I started 1-0 in promo series. Went 0-3 today.
Game 1, every lane loses lanes without any help from their jungler. I manage to pull things back so we might have a chance to win even though we are still behind, but the other team is throwing. Then one of ours dc. They take baron and push down the middle for the win.
Game 2, top and bot have bad matchups but manage to kind of keep it together. Mid feeds badly. But we might have a chance except our top loses his mind after we fall down a bit (whining about mid feed) and decides to intentionally feed even though we really werent down by much and hadn't even lost any 2nd towers yet.
Game 3, we were winning but our top kept dcing and was also bad. After about his 4th dc it just hurt us too much since his lane was pretty out of control. Eventually he dc'd at a bad time and we lose our head and lose the game.
So yeah, 2 dc games and an intentional feeder. Probably could have gone 2-1 if it wasn't for that stuff, 1-2 at the very worst.
ugh - sorry to hear that. Well, hopefully its just 2 games to get back into your promo matches again. Guessing I'll get boned at 75lp and have to play 2 games to hit as well. Anyway, good luck tomorrow if you decide to give it a go again. rough night, no doubt... getting trolled + dcs... woo...
NOT streaming some ranked duo queue.
Well, I think I'm done with ranked solo in LoL.
I just got demoted due to a bug again.
So I've lost 8 in a row. 4 of them had disconnects that substantially affected my team losing, 2 had people on my team intentionally throwing (after stating they would intentionally throw), and 2 had just had ordinary really really bad play on my team. So thats fun - I don't know why I seem to get really really really bad luck in solo queue, but it seems to happen to me.
But thats not the bug. The bug is that my last game my screen showed that I was at 10lp before the game. I lost the game (Sivir got upset at level 1, said she was going to throw, spent much of the game just walking into the enemy team on purpose), so I get demoted despite the fact that I was at 10lp before the game? Oh, and it said that I got demoted for INACTIVITY! And there is a red triangle in my league standing screen that is an Inactivity Notification saying that I got demoted to Gold I in solo queue (which happened a long time ago) due to inactivity.
Karl - might be time to open a support ticket. This is the 2nd instance you've cited where goofy shite is happening with demotions for you. Last time you said you were demoted like 10 days in advance. If it were me, I'd take the time to open a ticket. If nothing came of that and I was still fired up, I'd appeal to reddit and see if I can't get some traction there. If you really think there's some BS going on, I'd really push for some resolution. Let me know if you need any info on how to open a ticket, etc.
All of that said, you've been on a really annoying, obviously super frustrating losing streak. Maybe take a break from LoL or just get into whatever sounds fun to you in LoL. Too much stress and frustration = no fun had = not worth it. Try to do something that's fun for you bro and just relax a little if you can. Sorry its been so rough lately though. :/
On an unrelated note, an updated SR VU mod was released that works on the current version of LoL 4.17 - get it here if interested: http://yurixyworks.com/2014/06/27/play-in-new-summoners-rift-on-your-live-server/
I just played 1 game with it and it seems to be working fine.
Meh, I don't actually really care about ranked solo queue much or I'd play it more. Its frustrating when you lose 6 of 8 due to stuff like feeders and dc's, but whatever. I don't really care enough to play enough games to have the stats even out. I also don't really care enough to open support tickets on it, although I might have to if it keeps being goofy just to keep the weird stuff from happening.
I did finally win a game. It had nothing to do with me since I was playing super terrible since I was way too tired. I finally had better players though, so I won.
haven't rambled in a bit and as my mind is going in several directions, here goes...
Currently sitting on a 60% win rate in ranked for past 20 games playing solo and a 65% win rate when I duo ranked out of the past 20 games. Prior to meeting this fella I met last week (dxTrick), my ranked goal was to either get yasuo and play him mid anytime he's up and I can get him or try to play as ADC. Goal = be able to carry in ranked in my team is rot - so having a role or champ that can do that is key.
Anyway, last week I was doing some team builder and came across this dxTrick fella. I was choosing to play support in team builder because I wanted to put in some reps on my thresh play with a focus on vision control + positioning to get teammates out of places quickly via lantern + mobo boots. Anyway, I have a few games where I'm doing great and lock down a bunch of great hooks - and this fella dx, my adc, is really in sync with me. Uses the lantern exactly how he should, follows plays excellently, and doesn't make too many mistakes (we all do, ofc). Anyway, we play a bit together and I'm just rolling along playing my mainstream supports - thresh/leona/braum/janna. Side note - not really digging braum as much anymore. I find leona is a much better pick in most situations + reliable cc vs holy crap someone AA the person I've proc'd cc.
Long story short, we do the team builder games, then go off to ranked and crush it pretty easily. Played another ranked w/ him yesterday and got a win, but the guy has comcast, so net issues (eg we only played the 1 game and he was dc'd like 14 min). Thankfully, we lost one guy on our team and the other team lost 1 guy as well, so we were still able to get a win. Also, holy crap do I like having leona on the team vs a kat. That's probably what my braum comment is mostly about... anywho...
So, I'm in my promo series to plat. I'm likely going to pick and choose my games and try to duo through them to hopefully avoid having to replay the series now that time is getting short. The guy I'm playing with is only like gold III, so I'll probably play a bit more ranked if I get promoted to try to help him hit plat this season.
Another rambling post soonish....
on and on I go...
so, I'm all geared up for ranked last night, but my bud has those net issues I mentioned, so I decided to do some team builder so I can play w/e role I want. I go for adc and end up with a support janna (me = corks). Now, my corki is one of my weaker adcs (best prob cait/lucy/trist). Anyway, I get this goof support and we're playing into a dumb lane (brand+graves or something like that). Anyway, its certainly a stretch to say that I played well, but my support was weak and did very little that approached being useful. I'd move up to trade/farm while pushed under my tower - janna would shield the tower. I'd try to freeze the lane, janna would try to push the lane putting me in a very bad position and keeping me from being able to farm. Also, guy clearly didn't give a fug and just wanted to do w/e he wanted to do (eg choose a support in team builder but did not want to play support or had no idea how to do so).
So, I have a lane where I can't get cs because the enemy team can zone me very easily while my support stays behind me. And if the wave pushes to tower, I lose more cs because my support aa's and shields the turret or herself under turret. In short, I get put into a situation where I really can't do much of anything. I figure fine, I'm boned. My turret gets taken, I freeze and slow farm... janna comes to my lane and pushes the wave so I can't even do that for long. I was super happy when the game ended as it was pretty freaking miserable. Didn't report the janna because maybe she was trolling, but it just seemed like she was quite awful and had no idea how to support.
I said all of that to whinge a bit, but also to point out how much I love it when I get a good support. How great is it to have vision where you need it and have someone competently zoning, shielding, cc'ing, w/e needed. It is a real treat and makes playing adc so much more fun and easy. The game after the one I went on to describe had bainick from MadCast running support for me (him morg; me corks). Night and day difference (weak bot lane as well to be fair). He zoned like a boss, I'm csing well and getting poke down as appropriate. Anyway, was so nice to go from having a tormentor support to having an actual support.
Last, rammus's win rate is crazy high in ranked solo queue at the plat/gold lv at least for the past week. 58% w/r.
hurm... can't log in to NA for some reason... can get in LAN. Getting to login screen and its immediately saying it can't connect and"retries" several times... something seems to be blocking it on my side.. no idea.
Did not receive a response from server on NA. Runs through 5 times then craps out. Can log into PBE and LAN. No idea...
Did a ton of things to resolve - thing that fixed was repairing within the client. Issue might be related to the SRVU Mod.
Kudos to hedgie for playing that last game of the night. I was actually really surprised you didn't drop based on the crap people were saying and ended up doing. In my experience, sydragon really, really, likes to pick silly things. So him wanting to sona/raka top was painful... I managed to steer him away from that and then we get an azir support. Sighpants. Can't convince everyone, but I gave it go. Anyway, kudos for being a good sport.
Lost 1 ranked tonight with my duo queue pal. He kind of went on tilt super quickly. We did have an awful mid, but he was super chatty/bitching at our team. Kind of created a toxic atmosphere. Honestly, w/o that, our mid still would have been bad enough to cause a loss (he was ziggs.. early/mid game he ulted several times to clear waves while the enemy mid did useful things). I chatted my pal up re: that. Anyway, we'll see if he can handle losses more gracefully or just insta tilts. I think this insta tilt might be the reason he's only gold III right now, though. Honestly, his skill cap is at least mid plat if not higher as adc. Mentally not there though as I think he kind of gives up when he takes a loss and then doesn't want to play ranked.
Night all!
Just a heads up to anyone using the SR VU Mod - I think you will have to do a repair every time a new patch comes out and it seems like each patch breaks the map mod. Still worth playing that map, though - riot did a great job and are still tweaking things.
Didn't play any ranked last night - just putzed around a bit and played games w/ pals. FYI - OP GG had its database reset. Not sure why but it went into maintenance yesterday. For those that don't know OP gg is a great site for tracking stats. It can also be used to record live games - http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=pacov
Anyway, hoping to get through my promo series shortly. This trick guy might be too volatile though. Going to give ranked another go with him when he's not so exasperated.
c9 vs ssb games sooo good. Live now - replay soonish. Super good games though. Night all! Karl appears to be staying up for this... 3am = pacov pooped.
:/
grats
mmm... promo'd to plat. The dumb ass mental struggle is over for this season. Going to just accept that I'm fugged after placement matches and grind to DIAMOND. We'll see if I can do it...
note to self- talk about drop hacked and best movie I've seen in a long time. Night peoples.
So 1st - movie recommendation - if you have netflix, check this out: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/headhunters/
Its available for instant streaming. I watched it twice over the weekend. Really good flick. You start off interested and then it sucks you in completely after about 30 minutes and it just gets more and more intense. Suggest you take a look and see what you think.
Yesterday I met my somewhat depressing goal of getting back to where I was last season - platinum. For any that don't recollect, I hit Plat IV last season, had that stat reset at the beginning of season 4, went 5/5 or so in my placement matches due to dcs/trollings, and placed into silver I. This completely demoralized me and resulted in me not really wanting to grind out stats in ranked just to get back to what I earned in the previous season. It just stuck me as crap to have to spend a bunch of time to get back to where I was. Anyway, I'm over that now and next season I will be spending a bunch of time in ranked.
I did decide to look up my ranked stats to get an idea of how much I played.
As you can see, pretty sizable drop off in games for season 4 due to that whole demoralization crap (147 fewer games as of today). But like I said, I'm going to choose not to get into that crap in season 5 and just plow through things even if I have a smeh placement series. The goal will be to hit diamond which I think will be a little bit challenging. I feel pretty confident I can get to high plat based on my skill level, but we'll see.
I will be playing some more ranked this season, but really just to help folks out now that I've met my goal. Figure I'll do what I can to help my buddy trick get to plat if he's motivated. That will likely result in me hitting mid plat. Let me know if you want help in ranked and need a duo buddy. Will do what I can to help as adc/jung/support. I know a few of you are trying to get back or up to plat before the season ends. Let me know if you think I can help you out.
I'll talk about the drop hack in a little bit and my experience in ranked last night.
So - my ranked games from last night. I spent some time in 2 of the 3 games managing my team. By that, I mean helping folks untilt. I do have a nice advantage here as I have been that tilted guy many times, so I get it. Anyway, in 1 game, we had a really trollish top laner. Goes liss top with ignite. The enemy team gets both trist/yasuo. Anyway, our jungler ganks for top lane and takes a few cs. As a result, this liss player (I think this liss is actually just a lousy player tbh) over extends, dies several times, runs her mouth in chat, and is generally a shite. Anyway, the liss keeps feeding and doing nothing useful for the team resulting in 4v5 on every team fight. But my jungler can't help himself - he keeps going on and on with liss (I muted her when it was clear she was going to be a nuisance and encouraged everyone else to do the same). Eventually I call out my jungler and put it clearly that him going on and on with her is hurting our team and distracting everyone. Please mute now and be done with. He apologizes and mutes her. We go on to beat a late game team, that has baron buff, 4v5, by out playing them.
I was 0/1 in my series and got into that game with a trolly POS. I helped calm folks down, played best (worked super hard) to help win that game. Honestly, I think if the lee kept talking w/ Liss, we would have lost that game. Anyway, just says a bit about being positive and helping people keep from tilting. I was super happy getting a win on that game though. Extremely difficult, but a win that put me to 1/1 in my series. Not at all surprised to check that liss's stats and see her at 3/7 for last 10 games in ranked.
Anyway, we win the next 2 games due to surrenders (I go 0/1/10 and 1/2/17 as janna respectively). Both pretty solid wins.
So, I'm super happy, but my last game is stuck at the waiting for stats screen (the game I would have promoted on). Next thing i know, hedgie pm's me and says that he thinks my game may have been drop hacked as he can't see the stats. I whinged for a bit on stream and was pulling my replays to open a ticket with riot (that probably would have gone no where). I queue up for another game and play a fairly trolly zilean as I'm done w/ ranked, relaxing, and starting to tilt a bit due to the drop hack bit. Well, my normal game ends and I'm greeted with the "congrats you've been promoted to plat" message. Turns out the servers where just slow or w/e and there was no drop hack. So, I go back to being happy and play a bit better.
Side note- hedgie put in some time on gnar. Feeling good about him now?
New riot servers for NA targeted for this November:
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/riot-official/0YOGUwHG-stability-upgrade-and-planned-migration-for-na-servers
Not east coast servers though - still LA based so no ping change I think...
yeah i suck a bit less. There's a lot of intricacies about top lane that i'm not aware of. But i've certainly lost lane and been able to transition much better than someone like Quinn or Teemo, even putting out reasonable KDA by the end of the game. Brutalizer + 2x Dorans means that you can usually get 4-5 CS a wave just with your boomerang, so he's very difficult to zone. i think that he also has a lot of trouble against Ranged Tops, similar to Teemo (Ryze, Liss, Quinn, Rumble).
Quinn in particular is a difficult match up since she's able to massively deny Mini Gnars W and very easily kite Mega Gnar (and % hp execute to counter the bonus hp on Mega form).
And once you get your first big defensive item (Banshees or Randuins) you really are able to brute force most lanes with Mega Gnar, regardless of how far ahead the enemy is. That's been my experience, at least. Even when i was ~2.5 kills behind that Quinn the moment i got my Randuins she really couldn't do much to me if i got do a double-bounce E as Mega.
i will say that you're "probably" better off just playing Irelia or Jayce if you want a reasonably competent laner who is very difficult to deny and scales well into teamfights, while also being good at split pushing. In particular, Irelia is very easy to play in teamfights, as opposed to trying to manage Gnar's transformations.
But he brings good poke (which Irelia doesn't really have without ult) and he brings good tankiness (which Jayce doesn't have), so he does have his own unique advantages. i def don't consider him bad, the build paths seem to have been figured out and the latest set of buffs really helped him. But there are some more straightforward champs with more consistent results. Which has been pretty much the story of my league career, haha. Why play the hard inconsistent champs when you can just play the straightforward consistent ones?
wow - didn't know he'd clear that quick - good to know.
Nah you don't one-shot the wave. That's usually not good if you're behind because it lets them freeze it on you.
If you catch the boomerang everytime, with just the CDR of Brutalizer, you're able to last-hit every minion as it dies from safety.
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