In my view GC2 went a bit over the top with their importance and it also added lots of unfun micromanagement.I like to see them still in the game but not so vital to every mechanic.
Next round is on me. That's great news!
I don't know what is the limit of modules, but it is an aweful lot. This concept might work if the starbase would have the quality as big as the module limit. Remember that the things U build would not be the same. The stats would not be the same as a planet. What is wrong with construstor spamming.
Full production once the starbase is built. The supply freighter is there to maintain supply so if it's destroyed, it temporarily disrupts the supply leading to a delay in construction.
A faraway outpost needs more supplies in each shipment to continue upgrading because of the infrequency of arriving shipments, but it works out to the same total production as a nearby outpost, so the production per turn devoted to maintaining supply can be averaged out over time, rather than there being a huge loss of production whenever a shipment needs to go out.
U know when I thought about it I couldn't figure out why I was arguing this. I don't understand the problem with constructor spam. The constructor module problem is only a problem at the beginning of the game. In the end game this concept was not a problem for me. When I first started playing the game in 2007. I fealt the starbases were ugly and to limited, and I wish I had an option to increase my economics without freighters. That was my problem with starbases. It;s not even a problem for me when some of my starbase modules don't work, or when I have to trade for some modules. The real truth is that I don't use them enough in the early game. Sorry for joining the argument. The reason I haven't posted in awhile is that I don't know why I was joining the argument when I thought about it. How can I argue realism in the 23rd century I don't know. That was just a way for me to argue a point. I am always in support for better starbases I just don't care about how u do them. Sorry. If u still want to comment with me I'm game. If u want to yell at me for this I probably deserve it.
I'm not sure whether to add my two cents here or not. I've only managed to get halfway through the posts in this forum and there seems to be a lot of back and forth on this subject.
I guess what I am wondering is what is the point of a Starbase if it's not a Base? To me, for the most part, setting up a starbase that wasn't constructed over a resource seemed rather pointless (unless I did it to enhance a trade route). On the other hand, I tried to seize as many resources as possible and did my best to defend those fledgling starbases to the best on my abilities.
But that's where the excitement ended; as building them up was all fine and dandy; but they didn't really function as anything I would consider a base.
This of course, brings me back to a post I made elsewhere about the need for a more refined "logistics" system to be incorporated into the game. A Starbase should be a logistics focal point. Whether it's purpose is to help with trade or to "defend the frontier against the Khodan armada" it needs to be a Base of operations. Perhaps for refueling ships. Maybe for extending communications.
So, quit bickering back and forth about what they were or weren't and flat out say what you want them to be now!
Please, and thank you.
SK
PS. I had a tendency to send module less constructors out to the location and then upgrade the ship with the module. it was the fastest and most cost effective way to get the job done!
In GC2, starbases did extend your ship's range. I admit, this was more a side effect than the original purpose of the base. A base useful for fleet operations would be fine. Refitting was never a problem in GC2, because you could upgrade your ships everywhere (not very realistic imho). A military starbase with a shipyard module for refitting/repairing would be nice.
Other aspects in military operations (refuleing, re-ammonition etc. ) where never an issue in GC2, fuel or ammo were unlimited in your fleets, so no need for a base.
The only problem I had with constructors was their un-going cost from the time you built one until it arrived at it's destination. However, I solved this by building the ship without the module (which allowed me to build a faster ship) and then simply upgraded the ship with the module once it reached it's destination. Granted, that might be considered "cheating" by some, but then I never understood why constructors were so dang expensive per turn in the first place.
Just saying,
Edit: Sorry I didn't read all the posts above me and someone already suggested this
I was thinking about this and it could be like how freighters work.
Positives to this
i had a post about this in another thread, the suggestions i had for starbasses were this
1 constructor required to start building
1 new constructor required for each module type (battle stations I)
after that its own Que tied to a planet (battle stations II-V could be upgraded through base)
however if you sent out another constructor it could finish the current module instantly
I like the idea. One change I'd make is that I would consume the build resources not from the planets civilian production but from its military.
I love the idea of having starbases that refuel and replenish ammunition reserves. Although I could see this being quite unpopular in some circles. Perhaps it can be included in a Hardcore Mode? I know hardcore settings are in vogue these days. Then again this is a strategy game so taking more casual gamers into consideration doesn't really apply.
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