Well, the dialogue doesn't say a lot... What do you think the cheat was doing?

Lol drama - Jakemac has a slim grasp on the English language but it seemed like he was saying he knows a cheat that helps him win yet it makes the game crash? It still doesn't make sense...

Jake is an uber troll just like Huy...only difference is that he doesn't speak ALL CAPS DIALECT...

Ironically Jake has just put himself in a very bad situation that could get him banned if anything he said is actually true...

I'm not sure what Jake is getting at here...though, a friend of mine once told me that they used DNS attacks to disconnect them from game servers without hurting their stats....was a while ago though and not for ICO...

Might have been someone trolling, but I think remember the word Nephew coming up at some point.  Not positive.

-Huzzah!

According to Jake, yes that is the relationship....of course for all we know Jake is his dog's sisters cat's pet hamster's great great grandstepfather....

Delicious, but not well.  I could have swore it was the other way around, though, but I never talked to either one so IDK.

-Huzzah!

Thanks Yarlen!  I don't think I'd call what he was doing "grief" per se but it certainly was very suspicious and I for one HATE cheaters. 

Well, you can simply "kill" the game either through task manager or by tabbing to your desktop...that prevents the game from being registered as a played game...however, that is a well known thing down by many people and I wouldn't say it's necessarily "cheating" since it doesn't help you win and no one gives a rats ass about stats anyway....

Now, being able to cause desyncs on demand, that is entirely different....

I think with most games there are exploits the developers have not corrected. Also, most games if your files do not match the game will not start . In WoT you could modify the game player side but it diod not change the game at all. Just did things like making enemies color coded differently, remapping the keys, etc. A distinct advantage that even I used while playing.

However, I ran an antivirus right after finishing playing for the night (or maybe while playing) after testing his "theory". 7 Malware programs had to be removed from my system after he crashed the game with his test. I use social websites and surf websites with attractive women baring it all, but the worst Ive ever found from them is 1 or 2 virus after browsing for an hour or two. Not saying Jake is Hacking, but a smart kid like him just might be "testing" his pc "knowledge" and skills. Its very common lol.

The one thing about pc gaming is TV doesnt hold a candle to it. "Trying" to play at the highest level of gameplay is what a hobby is all about. SoasE has a good interface and if you have ever played other games, you know that after the fix the minidumps have gone down not up. The fixes might cause a little lag, but if you play other games, SoaseR is not that bad. No need to cheat, but unlike WoT you have nothing to lose by losing a game. I am sure the devs will address any issues to keep the game balanced for everyone. The games popularity is still very strong.

This weekend I played about 5-6 games. Twice I was hunting down a capital ship. They played jump in and jump out to avoid my fleet. I admit I wasnt fast enough to divide my fleet and trap them. They did, however jump back and forth twice and jump away the third time on a lane not linked by the map (that I could see). Not sure how they did this. I do know that exploits and tricks that are not in the rulebook are "trade" secrets among the best players.

If I'm wrong about Jake I'll be the first to stand up and apologize for it.  I don't ever assume my loses are due to anything but my inferior skill, knowledge, or execution.

I don't often (or ever) throw this kind of accusation out and I am only saying this in this case because, as Spock teaches us, if you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be true.  I don't exactly know what Jake is doing or if he is doing anything at all, but it sure looks like it is something.

Please don't take the above statement to mean I think it's impossible that he beat me.  Candido you know I don't advocate for recognition (tier 2, srsly). 

The replay gets corrupted when a game mini-dumps and usually doesn't work properly.  End of game mini-dumps aren't that uncommon for the big games that go long, and from what I could see when I was playing a couple months ago, the problem has not gone away. 

IF there was any hacking, it would most likely be trying to disrupt the game externally, not actually reaping benefits from inside the game engine.   He was probably just fed or snowballed if his attrition was lower.

"Tricks", "Exploits", and "Cheats" are 3 very very different things...

"Tricks" are simply good strategies that aren't apparent or obvious to all players...anyone can do them, but a simple lack of experience or knowledge can prevent someone from implementing them...using armistice right before RB actually fires is a "trick" (one would have to know that RB has a delay time)...colonizing asteroids/moons with one colony frigate and using a turret is a "trick" (one would need to know that militia krosovs move and reposition when a turret starts building)...

"Tricks" may not have originally been intended by the devs, but they are by no means game breaking or huge distortions to balance...they also do not require bugs, hacks, or glitches in order to work...

There are many tricks that skilled/experienced players use, and most nearly all of them have been openly discussed on the forums...in short, they are by no means "trade secrets" though one may need to do some asking or browse the forums in order to be aware of them...

"Exploits" are a full step above mere "tricks"...like "tricks", "exploits" are available to all players...however, "exploits" clearly are unintended strategies that result from either a bug/glitch or a dev oversight...playing as VR and glitching 2 Orkies into the same gravity would be an "exploit" if it were possible...illuminator spam back when overtime weapons were bug would be an "exploit"...researching wail then scuttling 4 civ labs (but still being able to use the ability) would be an "exploit" if it was clear by the devs (either through the forums or other game decisions) that all late game abilities were supposed to require labs both to research and use....

Sometimes "exploits" only become apparent when a balance patch comes out...as in the above example, it may not be known whether the devs intended wail to always require 7 civ labs in order to work...but if a patch came out and fixed that, then it would be apparent that it was in fact formerly an exploit...(to clarify, wail in and of itself would not be an "exploit" even if it was grossly OP; researching it then scuttling the labs would be the "exploit")

Like "tricks", "exploits" are fair game since anyone can use them...that they may ruin a game or severely distort balance does not change the fact that they are fair game....but, hosts may ban well known or OP "exploits" and to use them then would put your reputation at risk...

"Cheats" fall into 3 categories...the first kind of "cheats" result from a "proper" mechanism for cheating...for example, nearly all Maxis games (like the Sims) have cheat codes that can be entered in by the player...in sins, this would be the dev.exe, and if it was possible to use it on ICO then doing so would clearly be cheating...

The second kind is what I call "classic cheating"...screen-looking is the most common example for console gamers...if I was in a game with Radioactive (but on the other team), and I was watching his live feed while playing against him, that would also be "classic cheating" (albeit a rather lame one since there is delay and I'd have limited intel)....

The last kind of "cheats" are hacks...they are not part of a "proper" mechanism for cheating and do not exploit mere glitches or simple bugs...this type of cheating is not "available to everyone" in that it requires specialized knowledge or skills...modding your Xbox to fly up in the air while playing Halo 2 is a clear cheat...using a DNS attack to force players out of a game would clearly be cheating...running a program that accelerates your income relative to other players would be cheating...